and, i think quentin was fairly light on tommy robinson. he's very litigious . tommy robinson.gious. i'm tommy robinson. he's very litigious . i'm not going to go litigious. i'm not going to go into it, but certainly i wouldn't want to go drinking with him. i don't think he's a nice bloke. i don't think his views are very nice. and so there's that. >> nobody has to like everyone in society. not at all. >> but i'm. that's me politically judging what's going on there. i also think it's kind of interesting that the saint george's day thing has turned into this kind of culture war. maybe we could get into that. but the second point, which is almost kind of like you say, so what if that's your view of those people ? the second point those people? the second point is that the police are treating this differently. so you know, for example, they've got to put in a section 60 order, to allow them to increase stop and searches in cyst on people removing their masks. and, you know, that kind of quick , hard know, that kind of quick, hard and heavy action has been absent from some of these

you know, tommy robinson weird.son was praised as a hero by steve bannon. was praised as a hero by steve bannon . we've had i don't think, bannon. we've had i don't think, you know, hang on. you know, tangentially . yes. you can tangentially. yes. you can implicate. yes ben. implicate. yes you can ben. because actually you've got you have now got lee anderson who told in an interview with a national newspaper, a newspaper that if people didn't like going on the bibby stockholm bob, but they could eff off. that wasn't a recording. well, he said it in sympathy with lee on the. you might have, but but if you have people in senior positions and at time he was deputy at the time he was deputy chairman of the conservative party, got hester , who's party, you've got hester, who's donated millions to the conservative who , you conservative party, who, you know, said appalling, repugnant, appalling things about diana. but it took 48 hours for the government, the prime minister, to say that's racist and misogynist. well, i me

the lesbian nana all these cases, but it's funny you mentioned tommy robinson. >> i remember a clip ao, shortly after the manchester arena bombing, and there was a big kind of, what was it? i think it was after that, or possibly after one of the other, islamic terrorist outrages. anyway, there was a sort of peace march in manchester, and then tommy robinson was leading a, a like a less peaceful march. and the police deliberately led them into one another. it was quite obvious they they actually precipitated the encounter . precipitated the encounter. hoping i think i'm projecting maybe that they would sort of, i don't know, bring disgrace upon both of them , you know, to both of them, you know, to demonstrate that they couldn't be trusted. >> can i just add one thing, since you've invoked the dark name, no one's allowed to mention, i thought you were going to mention the more pressing irony that the jewish man who was who was told he was openly jewish, falter was, he told tom robinson to get out of his march . so some people are his march. so some people are saying this is a sort of a

but this involved a guy that many people will know of, tommy robinson.e didn't want we don't want tommy robinson at our march because his presence, his presence could antagonise people. so i kind of think that that's quite odd that this group of organised their march has said that he this you, him, they're you you're not allowed there because your presence could antagonise people here. but then when he's been told, your presence could now antagonise people there, then everybody's up in arms about it. i don't think anyone's presence should antagonise anyone. i think it's a free society, and people should be able to be in pubuc people should be able to be in public streets as long as they're not obviously, you know, being violent or whatever, hurting other people. so i found the whole thing very , very the whole thing very, very peculiar. but i you suggesting that these protests should be stopped ? stopped? >> no. i'm in extremist. yes, but the first thing, you don't have to go all the way to that immediately. i don't think they should happen in the same w

whoever a swastika, whoever is waving a swastika, i mean, tommy robinson barely mean, tommy robinson the ground, even if he turns up at something. he just turns up at something. >> is. >> which is. >> which is. >> which is. >> which fine. >> which is fine. >> which is fine. >> would >> flag would be. >> flag would be. >> well, i mean, i think >> yeah, well, i mean, i think you're an england you're not holding an england flag. it shouldn't be an offence, holding swastika, offence, but holding a swastika, whether you're tommy, tommy robinson as robinson never has, as far as i know. but anybody who , who waves robinson never has, as far as i k|swastika,inybody who , who waves robinson never has, as far as i k|swastika, whethernho , who waves robinson never has, as far as i k|swastika, whether their who waves a swastika, whether their allegiances far right a swastika, whether their al|their|ces far right a swastika, whether their al|their allegiance, far right a swastika, whether their al|their allegiance, whetherght or their allegiance, whether whether tommy whether you agree with tommy

asked for specific examples , people couldn't give any, but they all said they would for vote tommy robinsonhatever his real name is, were he to run for prime minister so i think this is a sect of people, and i think they're, they're frustrated. >> but it is interesting that, isn't it? but they've been talking for years now, decades arguably in america in particular, about the danger of awakening racial consciousness in the white majority that they say the more that you get black lives matter, or the more you take any individual racial minority and you elevate the importance of that as a sort of organising principle for those people. there is a danger that the white majority start to think, well, then it's about time . and this is what i feel is time. and this is what i feel is happening in this country. i don't remember there ever being saint george's day riots at all when i was. i just feel like or any kind of activist i feel like though you can't have both, because if what you're saying is accurate, then you might say a majority of white people feeling as though their power or their count

tommy robinson was there. you you can't get much brighter than tommy robinson.that crowd. so, yes, i think that crowd. so, yes, i think that it was perfectly reasonable to think we are dealing with a number of far right people. doesn't make all of them far. right. >> okay. thank you gents. we'll see you in the next hour . now see you in the next hour. now pupils are being released from amman valley school in south—west wales. it's been in lockdown of course, since following an incident in which three people were injured at about 11:00 this morning. one person has been arrested. i'm martin daubney on gb news, but now it's time for your weather with aidan mcgivern . with aidan mcgivern. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar . sponsors of weather on . solar. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hi there and welcome to the latest update from the met office for gb news. the odd shower towards the south today, but otherwise it's fine with sunny spells, especially for much of scotland and northern ireland where we've got an area of high pressure towards the north—west o

to stay away and tommy robinson was arrested for not staying away. would be provocative and he'd give the wrong impression. and i mean, the whole thing is, is sort of very, very controversial. i mean, this is a this is a man who when margaret hodge was asked to, to be a patron for the campaign for anti—semitism, i mean, he turned her down because she was labour. i mean, this is a very, very political organisation , asian. political organisation, asian. and i mean, i do think it was it was dealt with badly. i think there is absolutely no question that that that what was said to him was , was wrong, and that it him was, was wrong, and that it was actually really unfortunate. it was that bit of the march because of course, there are i mean, there's a whole jewish contingent on those marches. >> yeah. but i mean, was this a set up and was this fakery by activists, as he seems to be implying in this interview? he said officers at other protests had been set up by activists using fakery to undermine the forces. he's saying that this is a set up by gideon f

but yesterday, tommy robinson was cleared in court. unlawfully banned him from london. from london, he was pepper sprayed . now has the pepper sprayed. now has the hierarchy then flex their muscles knowing that he's going to be in london and his friends are going to be in london, and supporters are maybe going to be in london and thought , oh, we're in london and thought, oh, we're going to send the message back. >> they weren't so strong when there were people who are members of a now banned terror group, hizb ut—tahrir. at the end of the day, that's the point. >> if someone says they want jihad on the streets of this, of this city, i want that person pred this city, i want that person ripped off forcefully and stuck in a van. but that doesn't happen. >> they were all right to say that. >> they were all right to say that . and the police issued a that. and the police issued a thing to say. i was context we needed. there was this context around the word jihad. jihad does mean struggle. >> technically, it translates as struggle. >> come

and in actual fact , whether you agree with fact, whether you agree with people like tommy robinson orby scores scores of officers scores and scores of officers for breakfast in cafe, for having breakfast in a cafe, and, it may make of and, you know, it may make of that what you will, but it seems to be as suella braverman is saying, there's one rule for one and one rule for another. and she said in her piece today that she'd actually have banned those marches wasn't sacked marches if she wasn't sacked initially . initially. >> i'm not being generous. we see marches are blatant see these marches are blatant cases of jew hatred. i am being generous to an individual officer because i don't think it's right to pick on an individual officer. yeah but i would there would say categorically, there is we're running. is no doubt we're running. >> we're running out of time, unfortunately, but much unfortunately, but very much appreciate with us, appreciate you being with us, scotland the clip scotland yard have said the clip is a short excerpt from a ten minute conversation. during the full conv