. >> reporter: the year was 1968, american sprinter, john carlos joined by tommy smith stood on the podiumy, fists high in the air as the national anthem belted through the stadium. >> i feel like a young individual i represent american but at the same time america doesn't seem like it want me to represent self, that's a distaste in my mouth, in my mind. >> it was a silent call for civil rights heard around the world andade possible because of the stage on which he stood. >> i could have gone to the apollo theater, i was raise in harlem, i could have gone to europe to make a statement, but that wouldn't reach the masses i wanted to reach. i'm not the only black man in peril in the united states, there's people in peril around the world. we need to send a message out that we're fighting for a bet erday for all people. for me that was my ticket purpose of going to the olympic games was to make a statement. not to win a medal or show how great i was in track & field. >> so for you taking that platform and using it to send your message was more important than even placing to begin with. >> abs

one of those activists himself joins us now. 1968 olympic dpold medalist tommy smith, who is the focus girl moment. thank you so much for that moment in 1968. i doubt that you knew at the time that would ripple through time and decades and still have such an impact on all of us today. i'm curious given the olympic committee rules that have come out, what are your thoughts on those? >> time will always tell different tales of things that are untrue. the right side and here we deal with the right and we deal with right. one is right and man put into your own self and your belief. so it's going to be interesting. in fact, it is interesting. the athletes have a right now to a lot of strife and sacrifice and a lot of decisive moments in athletic life and in one's personal life. it's going to be interesting. there's doubt. but there's going to be great competition and a greater alliance that the ioc has to reckon with athletes are human too. maybe we better take a knee off their necks. that's what's happening now a bit. and ooum sure the athletes are very proud of it because of the fight tha

in 1968 he and tommy smith stood on the olympic metal podium fists raised into the air as the national anthem belted through the stadium. this was only made possible because of the whic he. >>al ic tito reach the victory stand. that was my purpose of going to the games, to make a statement, not win a medal or show the world how great i was in track and field. >> for you taking that platform and using it was more important than even placing to begin with. >> absolutely. it was as important today as it was at the time. i am committed. i am not here for the moment. i am here for the movement. >> the movement has exploded since that day 53 years ago and some experts are expecting protests. >>> a live look at the big board on wall street. dow is up after making modest gains this afternoon. twitter will report its earnings after market closes today. that will be interesting. meantime, latest week oyreport time filings went up b 51,000 to 419,000. that is up from pandemic era low just the previous week. >>> it can be a mountain of red tape and road blocks for american military veterans applyi

in protest against the rise of naziism in the country. 3 decades later sprinters john carlos and tommy smith brought american civil rights issues into the mexico olympics, raising their fist in a black power salute. they were fighting the same fight as boxing champion. mohammed lee lee was a force in the ring and had heavy weight communication skills modified of legal. but if you're notice, i'm been the most prosecutor. he brought those skills to issues like racial inequality and the war in vietnam. but sport stars have paid the price for their activism. when a li refused to fight in vietnam, he was stripped of his title and barred from fighting for 3 of his prime years. sprinters carlos and smith were dropped from the us track team. and more recently nfl quarterback calling copper nick lost his job for silently protesting social injustice. no other team has touched him since me. when confronted with politics, the sports industry finds itself compromised. it's wary of upsetting conservative audiences. a position summed up in the ninety's by basketball superstar and the face of sports floatin

think of tommy smith and john carlos, you know, with the black power fist at the olympics.ight-wing pundits, they hate it. there is an audacity that -- that they feel that these black figures have, that they shouldn't be so confident. you noticed that they try to take down their talent. and it speaks to their insecurity. and it, also, speaks to their fear of what these figures, the power that they have, to actually shift the culture. >> yeah. well, it plays well, among the party of the insurrectionists. right? so, i think, that's -- there's your answer, right there. it's what the audience and their party wants. phil, you -- you have a new piece that's titled, um, to many on the right, perceived toughness outweighs patriotism. and you write, in part, you said the through line to all of this is the idea that american heroes are necessarily stoic and suffering, demonstrating the sort of rigid masculinity that the insecure demand of their children. olympians and other athletes are supposed to shut up and let us enjoy their accomplishments and fame. members of law enforcement an

i remember john carlos and tommy smith. i don't know how dedicated they were, but they put on a demonstration that's still talked about. it was so great that the world saw it, and they went down to germany and killed those kids representing israel. that's what demonstration will get you. it shouldn't be in sports. take it out. let us go over there and have a good time and stay out of politics because it's a dangerous thing. >> you know. >> sean: the thing is, in the end, if the ratings keep plummeting the way they are, and people don't want to go to the game, even a baseball game, bit time you get the tickets and beer and popcorn and a couple of hot dogs, you're spending a few hundred bucks for your family i'm guessing americans aren't going to be willing to do it anymore. isn't that going to hurt the athletes, george? >> we're going to do it. we're going to continue to watch them because just think of the amount of athletes who are going to the olympics even this year. and the percentage of those would will be demonstratin

a big change, obviously, from more than 50 years ago when john carlos and tommy smith were expelled for in your view, is that the right way to go? >> think they should allow them to express themselves at any time. these guys -- these guys and girls have sacrificed so much to get to this point and they fight through and they actually win and i think they should be able to express themselves any way that they want, but i think they are happy that they've obviously changed their stance with them allowing them to kneel and things like that to show gestures, but i think they should be able to show it all the way through. when you're at that level and that's the way you want to express yourself you should be able to do that. >> i want to talk about a popular athlete, i and millions of people was looking forward to seeing in these olympics and that's sha'carri richardson, and you are in another career, cannabis industry, you wrote a letter to usa track and field. what compelled you to write that letter. you're in the business, but you're also an athlete. >> definitely, man, for me it was so ma

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let me in on this. 1968 medallist tommy smith, relevant to your book, and john carlos have signed onthat threaten to punish athletes for protesting, or demonstrating on the the medal postums at the olympics. i wonder what your read on that is as someone who spends so much time studying this intersection? >> i think there are two ways to look at it. rule 50 is prevent politics from invading this space that sees it self-as being an apolitical space. but the olympics are not apolitical. we just watched 200 delegations entering holding flags. that is inherently political. so we have a tension of what is and is not allowed within the space of sport. and they create this rare spotlight that they have and they want to use it as they see fit. on the other hand if there is no consequence or punishment for doing that within the olympic rules, is it a protest? if it is allowed or does it have the same meaning? >> that is an interesting point. amy bass, thank you so much for being with us and enjoy the next few weeks. i'm looking forward to watching. >> thank you. >>> thank you to all of you for

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politically, the first picture they will think about is the two american athletes, john carlos and tommy smithfrom 1968, who won the gold and bronze respectively in the 200 meter sprint, raising their fist in protest amid the unrest in the u.s. in the summer of 1968, as the one iconic moment in american protest in olympic sports that said this is the form in which we can express political views. guest: and i wasn't alive in 1968, i'm not sure if you were. i don't know how it was quite taken back then, but the unrest in america was unmistakable back then. the unrest we have today in america, we have people complaining about things they have to make up. systemic racism, oh, america is so incredibly racist as if there has no been -- has not been progress since the 1960's. the thing about smith and carlos was that people did not really expect it. that's what made it so powerful. now, it is virtue signaling. they expect athletes to go do this and you roll your eyes, you don't want to watch, you are tired of it. there's nothing new about it. there is nothing behind it. collin cap nick started doing

american sprinter john carlos joined by tommy smith stood on the podium in mexico city.ational anthem belted through the stadium. >> why am i being defiant? because i felt like as a young individual i represented america, but at the same time america seemed like it doesn't want me to represent self. and that's a distaste in my mouth and in my mind. >> reporter: it was a silent call for civil rights heard around the world, and one only made possible because of the stage on which he stood. >> you know, i could have gone in front of the apollo theater, i was raised in harlem. i could have gone there. i could have been in europe and made a statement, but the statement would not reach the masses that i'm trying to reach. i'm not the only person as a black man in peril here in the united states. there are people of color that's in peril around the world. we need to send a message out to give them hope, as well, that we are fighting for a better day for all people. no significance to me, the medal was the ticket to reach the victory stand. that was my purpose. going to the olym

notably when sprinters tommy smith and john karl lows raised their fist on the podium at the 1968 gamesplatform and a worldwide, nationwide stage, there is a tremendous opportunity to make those statements. i think it is natural outcome what has been going on politically in the united states the last year or so. reporter: former senator from colorado, ben nighthorse campbell competed for the u.s. in judo in the 1964 games and also in tokyo. he opposes mixing politics in sports. >> you have the right to express your opinion. it is venue you do it. doing that they destroy the bigger picture which is the national fabric. reporter: olympic charter bars political and religious demonstrations at the games. neil? neil: chad pergram, thank you very much. wall and broad, sell off ensues, when we are off more than 500 points. the dow off 215 points. nasdaq taking it on the chin. technology stocks have been taking it on the chin. it began in china overnight. asia by extension when people saw what was happening in the technology sector there. china might lay a lot of the blame on this on the revers

haven't we seen this before the year was 1968 tommy mitt smith and john car lois chose to demonstratelking about it this morning. >> the meld had no significance to me. that was my ticket to reach the victory stand. that was my essence and purpose going to the olympic games was to make a statement not to win a medal. britain brian and he still stands behind it today. one man who had an entirely different experience at those very same games was big george foreman won gold medalist at heavyweight proudly displayed the red, white and blue in 1968 and talked about it? >> i will never turn my back on america. i have this fond memory and love for this country and the people in this country. nobody will ever be ever talk to me out of that. >> brian: rye do some olympians want to honor americans america and americans today and some determined to find and poke holes in them. let's ask shelby steel. bring us time in east st. louis illinois. and i remember the olympics were huge event in the first in the e air. at that time i thought it was extremely authentic protest against an america that had

politically, the first picture they will think about is the two american athletes, john carlos and tommy smith968, who won the gold and bronze respectively in the 200 meter sprint, raising their fist in protest amid the unrest in the u.s. in the summer of 1968, as the one iconic moment in american protest in olympic sports that said this is the form in which we can express political views. guest: and i wasn't alive in 1968, i'm not sure if you were. i don't know how it was quite taken back then, but the unrest in america was unmistakable back then. the unrest we have today in america, we have people complaining about things they have to make up. systemic racism, oh, america is so incredibly racist as if there has no been -- has not been progress since the 1960's. the thing about smith and carlos was that people did not really expect it. that's what made it so powerful. now, it is virtue signaling. they expect athletes to go do this and you roll your eyes, you don't want to watch, you are tired of it. there's nothing new about it. there is nothing behind it. collin cap nick started doing this i