what you describe early in your book is toni morrison's era. i came ten years later, so when i saw your title reminded me of what i thought about lorraine at the time, because we had the four plant, we had gm, we had steel mills, it was an embarrassment to file for unemployment when i was coming up and so i never been a shaker heights i'm going home this weekend for the holidays. i plan on going to shaker heights. okay. just to get a feel when i get to the book, i didn't experience a lot of races at all when i was coming. i was fortunate, pampered. no, but just fortunate. and i'm the gentleman that assistant tonight. i'm kind of juxtaposing his comments about south and happened with your experience at that school and i'm a firm believer in ohio being a very hospitable okay we just way we are okay and. i'm wondering that because it was in the in the north the surrounding areas of shaker played an important role to the integration versus. if it was in the south you went was you didn't have a support system he alluded to and so while you were spea

my looking back has everything to do with picking up the pieces that i am to use the title of toni morrison's wonderful documentary. and it has something dr. glaudei must admit in so many ways that i'm not quite right. i feel like -- i feel a little bit broken if that makes sense to you. and so part of my looking back has everything to do with picking up the pieces that i am to use the title of tony morrison's wonderful documentary. and it has something to do with trying to figure out how to find my feet post all of the deaths of covid, trying to find my feet in the morass of this political moment. and so that's just the pl side of it. the political side of it, i think, is that we've outsourced our responsibility for democracy for too long. you know, democracy requires particular kinds of people to work, not folks who are, you know, struggling every single day to make ends meet and keeping their noses above head, above the water, so that they can so so they don't have time to attend to their civic responsibilities, you know? so i'm thinking what i what i'm trying to insist upon in this moment

stephanie: and it is "sula," toni morrison's amazing novel. keri: oh, how great.phanie: and we are you know, it's, it's going to be a limited series. we already have four of the eight scripts. they're beyond amazing. and i, i just it's, it's, it's one of these projects that, you know, i read that book in college, it's like, it's, it's black women being whatever we want to be. and that's what's so great about it. and it's going to frighten the hell out of people because it's wild. kim: looking forward to it. stephanie: so that's, that, yes, that'll be my next thing. keri: i don't, i don't have, i don't have a project like that in my head right now that i'm ready, that i, that i feel like, and i think, uh, um, yeah, i don't, i don't have a single project that's the one i've been waiting to see or waiting to make, um, but i think i'll know it when i see it and i'm certainly out there looking. kim: keri and stephanie, thank you both very much. keri: thank you. stephanie:t's been fun. (music plays through credits). narrator: funding for this presentation of this progra

and people like tony morrison and people you know, just who they are; right? and maybe that came with their age and being elder so i should mention people that are story tellers their and connect with them and you know, i had those models. >> (multiple voices.) >> and when we approach as elders they sort of see us as harmless. >> right. right (laughter). >> that's true someone is sitting there and- >> (multiple voices). >> coming up to take. >> you're much more open to. >> my mother was like i said passed at 1 hundred and 4 but a curious person with her life and always said she may with living in north beach the first chinese person an open authoritative but because she was curious this was a really modeling for myself and i feel like elders we just have a we're able to approach 0 anyone and hey how are you? and they're open to take with us. >> i think for me my challenge and career forced me to be a more public person and away from work i became more quiet and less engaged. so this pierson of being in the room and doing what i needed to do and saying what i n

and what tony morrison called self-regard, targeted at people's testimonies provide a counter-narrative to the stories we've been told about. reconsider actions. suppose that failure. speaking with one voice, they said white southerners were waging war on reconstruction by attacking the people who are making the most of freedom and naming their attackers, detailing their injuries, saying the names of their slain kin crying out for justice and doing what they could to keep the record of what happened to them alive. survivor said black people's lives, freedoms and futures mattered. reporting and testifying about the war on freedom or survivors. best defense against its erasure. these testimonies did help to drive the federal investigation that eventually drove the klan underground, but not before they seriously freedom and black people's participation in american democracy. after confederate overthrew reconstruction and boarded up the temple of liberty. they crafted what i call the big lie of the 19th century that experiment in american democracy had failed. they falsely claim that white

and what tony morrison called self-regard, targeted at people's testimonies provide a counter-narrative to the stories we've been told about. reconsider actions. suppose that failure. speaking with one voice, they said white southerners were waging war on reconstruction by attacking the people who are making the most of freedom and naming their attackers, detailing their injuries, saying the names of their slain kin crying out for justice and doing what they could to keep the record of what happened to them alive. survivor said black people's lives, freedoms and futures mattered. reporting and testifying about the war on freedom or survivors. best defense against its erasure. these testimonies did help to drive the federal investigation that eventually drove the klan underground, but not before they seriously freedom and black people's participation in american democracy. after confederate overthrew reconstruction and boarded up the temple of liberty. they crafted what i call the big lie of the 19th century that experiment in american democracy had failed. they falsely claim that white

toni morrison? come on maya angelou? come on. ralph ellison? get out of here. to ban books as though these students are not going to go to barnes and noble to pick them up. where they are not going to go online and say they want to ban them i want to read them about thatmuch more. the absurdity of it all is that there's now a pushback. but while half the states have engaged in proposals to suppress the vote, i'm happy to tell you another have passed legislation to expand access to vote that introduced the voting and did things to make it easier so this is not simply that there is one side of the ledger and not on other side of the ledger. every company that may be you retreating on the diversity equity and inclusion, there may be three or four more who say i'm going to double down, i'm going to stand and remain committed. we have to understand and not get caught in the glass half empty mentality. we cannot fight a battle if we do not have a mindset that we are stronger because our case is right and that our friends and allies and ourselves are lying to make thi

toni morrison? come on. angela? come on. ralph ellison? get out of your here. to banned books as though the students are not going to go to barnes & noble's and pick them up. are they not going to go online and say boy, they want to ban them, i want to read them that much more. the absurdity of it all is that from 2020, there is all the pushback. while half the states have engaged in proposals to suppress the vote, i'm happy to tell you that another half of the state. introduced mel voting. and things to make it easier. this is not simply that there is one side of the ledger. for every company that may be retreating on diversity, equity, inclusion, there may be three or four more saying i'm going to double down and i'm going to stand and remain committed. we have to understand and not get caught in the glass half empty mentality. we cannot fight a battle we don't have a mind-set we are strong. in this index, very quickly, we index at about 76% of where what americans are. i encourage you to look at these. the index is an average. here's the thing, you see an im

toni morrison? come on. maya angelou? come on. ralph ellison? get out of here. to banned books as though these students are not going to go to barnes & noble and pick them up , or they're not going to go online and say, boy, they want to ban them, i want to read them that much more. the absurdity of it all is that from 2020, there is now a pushback. while half the state has engaged in proposals to suppress the vote, i am happy to tell you that another half of the state has passed legislation to expand access to vote, that have introduced mail- in voting, that have done things to make it easier. this is not simply that there is one side of this ledger and not another side of this ledger. for every company that may be retreating on diversity equity and inclusion, there may be three more or four who say, i am going to double down and i am going to stand and i am going to remain committed. we have to understand and not get caught in the glass half- empty mentality. we cannot fight a battle if we do not have a mindset that we are strong because our case is right and

my looking back has everything to do with picking up the pieces that i am to use the title of tony morrison's wonderful documentary. and it has something to do with trying to figure out how to find my feet post all of the death of covid, trying to find my feet in the morass of this political moment. and so i think it's really an effort on my part to write myself into some kind of stability as it were, some kind of orientation to now. and so that's the personal side of it. the political side of it, i think, is that we've outsourced our responsibility for democracy for too long. you know, democracy requires particular kinds of people to work. not folks who are, you know, struggling every single day to make ends meet and keeping their noses above the water so that they can -- so they don't have time to attend to their civic responsibilities, you know? so i'm thinking what i'm trying to insist upon in this moment is that politicians aren't going to save us. khalil: that's -- prof. glaude: the traditional leaders aren't going to save us, khalil. we're going to have to save us. khalil: i really app

one of my favorite authors, the great toni morrison, said books are a form of political action. books are knowledge. books are reflection. books your mind if reading your book can change one person's mind, whose mind would you want it to change. i'll start. yeah, well, with my memoir, just those who are cynical, those who have hope, those who don't think that there's any light at the end the tunnel, you know, i'm hoping that it wakes them up and makes realize that we there's work to do but we can get there. i think my book is for two groups of people one the same as edwin's anyone who is exhaust outed by feeling personally hurt by our mental health care systems and who maybe has lost or belief that there's anything we can do to change the number of people who are suffering, to keep people from being shot and hurt out in public to do something about the number of americans don't have homes. this is actually while so much of this history is is difficult, it's also a very hopeful story. many of the people who you meet along the way will fill with hope and possibility. and then on a

moshin: i would suggest "beloved " by toni morrison. what is incredible about that book is it looks at the horrific history of slavery, which took place in a democracy, the united states, and reveals the absolutely inspiring capacity that can exist in your society to confront mistakes, to be self-critical, and to produce truly transformative insights from that process. i think that kind of radical self-criticism and inspiration is really what i would most like to see. nesrine: i wrote a novel about this, the 19th -- ece: i read a novel about this, the 1980 military coup in turkey. it was published in the united states. i recommend that as well. anne: i am tempted to recommend my own book being published in july. it is called "autocracy, inc.." it describes the frame that i was weakly trying to explain. in addition to that, i would see a great book if you want to understand how russia sees the world, but also how other dictatorships do. read it nothing is true but everything is possible. isaac: nesrine and ece, thank you so much, so glad