tony beaver's is being challenged by republican tim michael's in wisconsin. ny evers, the governor trying to win election -- reelection. a close race according to polls. the question, why? guest: wisconsin has a history of close elections. people call it a purple state. i would call it a red and blue state. that is a microcosm of the country right now. urban areas, heavily democratic rural areas, heavily republican. the governor's race is an example of that dynamic right now. you have a race that polls show is within the margin of error. both sides seem to think it could go half point, one point, either way. remember watch wrote years ago when tony evers, the democratic -- four years ago, tony beaver's beat scott walker by i believe one percentage point here and we are use to close elections four of the last six presidential elections were decided by a few points. host: who is to michael? -- tim michaels? guest: he owns a family run business, they employed abo ut 8000 people across the country. he dabbled in politics before. he ran for state legislature in the