for the bagmen tony blair. so speaking of hit man for the bag man there's also hillary clinton we mentioned her earlier she just as begs. she's also one of these client hires it appears from this next headline hillary clinton to speak to carlyle group investors so this is september ninth in d.c. she'll be speaking to carlyle group which is the third largest private equity firm in the world now essentially there are only four or five private equity firms they control the most the largest funds and then the rest are just like peanuts compared to those four five carlyle group of course has a long history of client hires george h.w. bush was an advisor to carlyle group before john major who was the former prime minister before tony blair of the united kingdom he worked at carlyle group as chairman of europe they hired presidents of the philippines and thailand well hillary clinton is said to be the featured attraction at the private equity firm the carlyle groups investor conference on september ninth the latest in

you have tony blair at j.p. morgan hill before the industrial revolution of people who have lots of kids do all the work on the farm here you've got a lot of corrupt bankers having lots of kids to be placed at other corrupt institutions to create more fraud the need to be bailed out with more money printing that'll help g.d.p. so it's the same concept the more the greater the spawn of these crooks like bill clinton jamie diamond all these nincompoops the greater the g.d.p. boost because all their nefarious illegal activity requires more money printing so i mentioned tony blair and. speaking of. blair. oh my god it's just that tony blair has become synonymous with. this man is this human vomit. well i was speaking of complete dunky and many consider him jackass which is a donkey and he is a client hire one could say of j.p. morgan looking back to two thousand and ten tony blair appointed senior advisor to j.p. morgan chase this is from january two thousand and ten it's a press release from j.p. morgan j.p. morgan

at remind a lot -- of the lot of 1997 when the rupert murdoch came out against tony blair in the uk in the australian market, newspaper outlets do not typically come out in favor of a political candidate. >> it seems very british, even using the second world war analogy and comparing politicians to hapless characters. that is something british tabloids have been doing a long time. >> that is why it brings back the memories of 1997 and tony blair in that relationship. australian newspapers generally speaking are a lot more objective than what you might find in the british tabloid press. they do not really stand for a lot of endorsing candidates or smear campaigns. but in an instant, it seems like we have seen a bit of a turnaround. and murdoch is pushing that. >> how much of a threat does this broadband network really pose to foxtel? >> i think it poses a significant threat. you can see a crossbow world these days people using broadband a more and more -- netflix, hulu, and even news sources. -- is a dyings industry across the world due to the power of the internet. it does pose a signi

bush, tony blair and the iraq war? >> certainly what happened yesterday was a lot of it in parliament dictated by the legacy of iraq, as you heard the labor leader and prime minister cameron saying there. but i think there are genuine concerns in britain about whether this strike would be effective, whether it would actually help the people of syria very much. there are concerns about mission creep, can you go in small into the middle east, and the legacy of the fact that actually western involvement in middle eastern wars doesn't tend to end terribly well for western countries. and i think all of that played into yesterday. lawmakers said well, it was to do with the evidence, my gut is there is a general sense they did not want to get involved in a mission in syria that was not clear, whose aims are not clear and where the outcome is not clear and where the prospect of retaliation is still pretty high. >> so mike, talking about generals fighting the last war and an overreaction to what happened in the last war, a very

rwanda has defenders, among them tony blair and bill clinton. i don't support the oppression of journalists. i don't think human rights tramped in the congo to protect the rights of rwanda. i suppose i do make more allowances for a government that has produced as much progress as they have. that is the way it is. very few situations are perfect. >> but the politics has already changed, whereas the clintons are out to win hearts and minds across africa, the united states has already opened up a new and more dangerous phase with the continent. africa is now one of the magic fronts in battle against terrorism. >> we are in a very unstable per in the word, particularly on the con tint. many of the experts i have spoken to link this to what happened in libya. libya has now become the primary source of funding and arms for al qaeda. was it a mistake to overthrow gaddafi in that manner? >> well, first of all, it doesn't work that way. there is no way that you could -- unless you thought the united states or you should do it directly, should invade the

we talked to tony blair. we talked to dave petraeus.talked to lots and lots of iraqis, iraqi politicians from saddam's time and now. that's where we were trying to get that multisided effect. we're trying to get people telling what was going on themselves without journalists or pundits telling them what to think. >> it's interesting, paul. collin powell was not in the room at the time president bush made the final decision. he said the president kicked everybody out except me. he asked me to stay and then said, dick, what do you think we should do? how unusual is this? i mean, you have to wonder would the outcome have been any different had colin powell been in the room at that time. >> i really felt a bit sorry for colin powell. he probably had a bit of a lonely, lonely life there at the top. he's obviously a very patriotic guy, a very loyal guy. really disagreed with this. he tried all he could. you know, a couple times, in fact, got the british to come in to try to fight in his corner against cheney to get his views held. it's really

british parliament meets we get some answers to those questions but i have to say that ever since tony blair's time starting off with we seem to go in for foreign walls with alarming regularity often having no really clear objectives or any idea how we're going to withdraw and i'm sure that if we do go into military action without un security council approval it will be a role that goes on for decades but ultimately international law itself is not going to stop the british and the french and perhaps the americans if they choose to do something already spoke to hans blix who had the un's weapons inspection team to iraq before and during the two thousand and three u.s. led invasion he says there is a campaign in the media to forest governments to interfere in syria but the real purpose of intervention will be far from defending civilians there. i think that the public opinion and the media in the west will be pressuring the their governments to do something they say that this is such a horrible thing that there must be a punishment there must be action you cannot sit with your hands just folded

mr putin or or tony blair or or margaret thatcher you're hearing or someone who has attained a great deal of power that go that goes away really goes away very quickly and another thing you always know you know the interviewer is in control you is sophie are in control of this not me you control this moment and once i understood that whether was frank sinatra or vladimir putin or the mailman i control the situation and if you control it there's no reason to be nervous there's no reason to be scared there's no reason to be apprehensive because you control the moment you this is your show but if that one minute of intimidation that you fail gendered for you . now i'm not i don't think so. i don't know i when i say intimidated that's a momentary it's just a flash that's. i said a minute it's probably twenty seconds you know you have been to meet someone that you you you've seen on a large screen on a large stage you go into that setting and you have a you know when you when you do it long enough then you get famous so sometimes i'll go into i've gone into people and the first thing they

tony blair about the weapons of mass destruction it turned out saddam hussein did not have. a lesson should be learned, said britain's opposition leader ed milleband. >> it's surely a basic point, evidence should precede decision, not decision precede evidence. >> reporter: the sharp defeat for the cam ran government means that if the u.s. does launch an attack on syria it would be without the participation of what has until now been its most reliable partner, scott. >> pelley: mark phillips outside the houses of parliament. mark, thanks very much. we're going to go now to the white house where major garrett has the late reaction from the president and his advisors. major? >> reporter: scott, the white house knows this puts them a very awkward position. britain is not there to help this enforce the international norm. they say it must be enforced to penalize a nation for using chemical weapons on a mass scale. the president will have to now act on his own, this will be a unilateral movement and could happen within the next couple days because even last night the white house

get involved in a war that could have unforseen consequences but i have to say that ever since tony blair's time starting off with we seem to go in for foreign wars with alarming regularity often having no really clear objectives or any idea how we're going to withdraw because to prove that point you know we've now been in afghanistan for longer than the first and second world wars added up together my view is that what we've done in afghanistan and iraq in fact for many decades whatever britain's got involved in the middle east we tend to make things worse not better horrible the way it is ghastly though some of the crimes of the that are being committed there is nothing the british military can do my view to make things better the us is a sin that this time around will be nothing unlike iraq or serbia oh in libya washington is confident that when it comes to syria the evidence is unquestionable just like it was when saddam was accused of hiding weapons of mass destruction his art is gannett if you can on america's reckitt missteps military. before every u.s. intervention in the last fifte

tories so popular and what made the tories unpopular unelectable for maybe half a generation wasn't tony blair and what a wonderful guy he was it was the fact that so many people lost their homes in the real estate crash of the late eighty's early ninety's because of spiraling interest rates people couldn't make their payments and homes were repossessed so the tories have got this idea that one we cannot let people lose their homes under our watch which is one of the reasons you're seeing such suppressed interest rates and to they're trying to find a magic bullet a bit like what. right to buy was and that's i think what's behind this helped by the trying to turn people into homeowners another interesting fact for you is the fact that people who own their homes are more likely to vote than people who don't so it's an entirely politically motivated policy and it's it's not because they're so desperate to house people if they were desperate to house people they'd change all the crazy regulations about the housing market in this country it's simply a vote winning exercise in my opinion ok so let's

british parliament meets we get some answers to those questions but i have to say that ever since tony blair's time starting off with bosnia we seem to go in for foreign wars with alarming regularity often having no really clear objectives or any idea how we're going to withdraw and i'm sure that if we do go into military action without un security council approval it will be a real that goes on for decades but ultimately international law itself is not going to stop the british and the french and perhaps the americans if they choose to do something. france echoes britain's rhetoric with president alarmed saying his country's ready to punish those who quote gassed innocents in syria paris has also pledged to increase military support for syria's opposition in the wake of the alleged chemical attack now meantime the blame game surrounding the alleged chemical attack in syria is gathering pace syria's foreign minister insists that rebels and foreign mercenaries fighting with them are behind the alleged atrocity once again refuting washington's assertion that it was the regime the chemical assaul

that was tony blair. who, by the way, in an earlier in the week opinion piece was unabashed in his call for intervention in syria, declaring the hand wringing having to stop. in early 2003, there was build up to the iraq war. you were at the un, a military attache at the united nations. does this bring back memories, this discussion? >> it brings back other memories. bosnia, 20 years ago. we always discussed, did not know who was guilty. remember the market 3, discussing who was guilty? >> back when colin powell made that speech at the u.n., did you know then, as david cameron said today, that this would poison the well public opinion. >> nobody knows, really. apparently there were not weapons of mass destruction, but the problem was that to take the point, the judgment, without giving new evidence. the point is that you need to make a judgment, the prime minister said. >> when will we get those facts? another issue. stay with us. ♪ >> throughout the week we keep you up-to-date with sports news, the actio

british parliament meets we get some answers to those questions but i have to say that ever since tony blair's time starting off with we seem to go in for foreign wars with alarming regularity often having no really clear objectives or any idea how we're going to withdraw and just to prove that point you know we've now been in afghanistan for longer than the first and second world wars added up together one as we're going to britain is ready to go ahead as well as some other western countries but where does the rest of europe stand on this. split i think that is the honest truth split but overall overall i sense that the feeling of moral outrage that perhaps john kerry expressed yesterday the feeling of moral outrage i think will win and therefore a majority in europe will decide that military action is acceptable i would just say this you know number one can we please actually find out for certain that it was a sad that use those weapons it's probable that it was but please can we find out for certain and i would send everybody else that moral outrage on its own is not a good enough reason to

is is that the iraq experience with the dodgy dossier in which intelligence was tampered with by tony blair and alastair campbell i'm afraid has poisoned the well and it's the legacy of that that we're living with today but i have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that bashar assad is responsible for last week's attack and responsible for yesterday's napalm attack on a bunch of children in northern side northern syria i'm going to say a program what could you say to people that still say they want to see facts before intervention happened how could you convince that my know what you're saying and i can hear that you absolutely believe it but how do you convince the unbelievers if you like you know at the end of the day as with a jury you know any judgment is made and the words beyond reasonable doubt to use sometimes no information is absolutely perfect you know you may not have the electronic intelligence with a voice saying to from martyr or bashar assad to a general please drop these bombs on somebody but i think above and beyond that there is only one person who could have delivered the ma

just like when prime minister tony blair lied to the british public so they want to be sure but i think we ought to be asking the question why was the president just before today so willing to go to war against the government of syria well our in the un inspectors don't even finish their inspection inspections without the united nations security council in their discussing or hurting on the us without nato its lending in support to this action and deal without any allies and all people should be asking those questions and of course when they come to the answer they'll find out there what we're doing is leading the effort of a counter-revolutionary war instigated by the kingdom of saudi arabia qatar the other persian gulf monarchies ever since the arab spring broke out in late two thousand and ten and spread and there's a lot of these markets have been spending millions of dinars trying to push the arab spring away from their governments because they're hated by their party lately and trying to topple the elected government of syria the elected government of iran and to try to take peopl

tony blair was george bush's poodle. the nickname haunted him throughout the rest of the tenure in office. the cartoon in the financial times today puts it, easy the man asking in london -- the man in washington wants to know what we have to say to our man in london, basically. that is how the story has been playing out. jeremy, reacting to that other story, they reacted by saying that there is a close intelligence relationship between the uk and the u.s. and a number of other countries including australia and canada's mapping and nor is everything shared. >> all we know is that there is a very close relationship, a sharing of databases, a great deal of information. an incredible ease by which the u.s. can extract anyone and put them on trial. it is hard to keep things happening. we see this extension of the u.s. paranoia of that security. i think this is just another example of that great paranoia. this is, frankly, harassment and the partner of the journalists that happened to be traveling through heathrow airport. thi

because of tony blair but a comment on the obama administration.nt obama is not trusted worldwide. not in britain or the middle east. people didn't want to march under the banner of the commander in chief. >> uma: a tough situation we find ourselves in at this moment. great to see you with the insight. thank you for joining us today. >> thank you. president obama said any strike will be limited in scope and won't put boots on the ground. but there are those who say we waited too long to have effective impact in sir yeah. joining us now is oliver north. welcome. >> great to be with you. >> this is a great way for the weak presidents to feel good about themselves when you look in mirror. when you look for those who will back you up afterwards, there are none. this is not a strategy. this is punishing because he shot from the lip and said there is a red line. he crossed the line in the stand. this is the third i vent we know of that chemical weapons have been used. worse yet, the message in tehran where the war is being run islamic revolutionary guard

bill clinton and tony blair wented a milosevic and we bombed serbia for 78 days. we destroyed the serbian war machine. there are many other models. everybody jumps at iraq as the only template. it's the only template, iraq looms large because it looms large in barack obama's mind. >> christopher, you don't buy it with kosovo? >> i was on the ground for most of those templates. i was in belgrade, and it was a very different kind of situation. can you imagine this administration or any administration now mustering support for 78 days of bombing, 38,000 bombing sorties? i don't think so. also, syria clearly is not serbia or kosovo. and all that was following on what happened in 1995. when you had the croatians roll against the serbian army with american backing. we don't have any equivalent of the croatian army. maybe if turkey wants to invade, we could support it. but i don't think that's likely. >> john king, what are you hearing about the impact of this vote in england? >> it's very discouraging coming from a senior u.s. official. oddly, the impact of this, anders

richard, interestingly enough, it was the former prime minister tony blair who got a lot of flack as you know for supporting the iraq war and president bush being called bush's poodle and i imagine there is some public opinion that fits into all of this as well. how does he come out on top of all of this? >> time and again there was huge discussion, listening to toads to the debate in parliament, and in very much the skepticism of what we're talking about this later in the hour, the skepticism that exists over any form of call for action based on supposed reports which people haven't seen. >> it is all about the intelligence and one thing is clear, the british prime minister is on the same page with president obama regarding syria and the british leader is also emphasizing he says this is not another iraq but touched on both of those points during his speech to parliament and you can see there is a certain defensiveness about this. >> barack obama is a man who opposed the action in iraq. no one could in any way describe him as a president who wants to involve america in more wars in

interested in the weapon inspector and yes i'm taking legal advice very seriously unlike he would say tony blairothers, the legacy of the iraq war is that nobody trusts us and for him on an immediate scale many of his labor mps have been saying it to him for the last 24 hours, we're very, very concerned about this and that's obviously weighing on his mind. >> nick watt, thank you very much. a fascinating, lively political debate underway in the u.k. and we'll follow twists and turns today and in the coming days here on al jazeera english. >> we'll speak you to throughout the day. thank you for the time being. that was from london. jackie is standing by for us over in paris. there is a meeting going on there. what's coming out of that? >> what we're seeing in paris is similar to what's happening in the u.k. that seems to be backing away a little bit from the kind of brink that the president seemed to have marched up to on tuesday when he vowed to punish those that carried out the chemical massacre in damascus. during which he actually also pledged to increase military support to the armed opposit

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. >> the ghost of tony blair and george w. bush and saddam hussein. >> we shust stop the terror. >> when you go to war, congress must authorize this. >> now watch this drive. >> both the president and the vice president before they became in power understood this. >> the president has to make a tough call, tough decision the president will make. >> the american people are tired of war. >> but fatigue does not absolve us of our responsibility. we begin with president obama's national security team moving forward with the syria plan. in an unusually hectic friday before labor day, today saw a flurry of conference calls and meetings on the crisis. if there are any doubts the u.s. will strike despite the fact that the president insists he's made no decision. this is president obama just a short time ago. >> we cannot accept a world where women and children and innocent civilians are gassed on a terrible scale. i have said before and i meant what i said, that the world has an obligation to make sure that we maintain the norm agains

. >> caller: tony blair who is left of the bushes and obama -- >> stephanie: george bush's putin. >> stephanie: i'm glad we flushed out the troll line so that the king of the trolls, billy from texas can call in now. gol, i've missed him since i don't know when, yesterday. hi, billy in texas. i don't know if you hate yourself or not. ♪ ♪ phones to get his pants in a wad ♪ ♪ smokes funny cigarettes ♪ two hours, he's been on hold because his right wing is getting old ♪ ♪ he's a man who means to troll ♪ ♪ king of the trolls ♪ traitor >> stephanie: all right, thank you, rocky mountain mike. all right. that was like throwing chum in the water for billy to call now. stop giving him jingles. >> the lines are open, billy. >> stephanie: 45 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> announcer: there's a tea party in her pants and you're invited. call now, 1-800-steph-12. this show is about analyzing, criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal or is it political? a lot of my wor

party, the opposition party we don't want to look like the pull of the united states, the rapid tony blaireorge bush. there is growing consternation of we risking another iraq? the president's people are saying let's make darn sure the evidence we are presenting, vladimir putin michelle ng is rejecting that they really are chemical weapons being used and assad is the guy using them and not his brother. what they seem to be saying is if it is his brother who is in charge of this province that was getting all the chemical attacks than it is not really assad. now we are starting to split hairs. i am not here to justify the attack or not but say that we are clearly seeing decisiveness going. connell: brings up an interesting point how should people look at this. on the one hand these are complicated issues with a lot of gray areas, that is why we are seeing some indecisiveness. on the other side we want to make a decision and stick to it. easier said than done? connell: i always wonder, if i am assad and putting myself in his shoes, size 12 cop i am thinking they already said this is not about

thank you tony blair. respect and that is henry kissinger also is zeroing in all of this. europe, britain, and the united states must get together soon if we are to prevent a war of the civilizations growing in the middle east. and now i would like to put something on the screen here. it's late breaking news from the wall street journal. jack, the u.s. should back the army. would you please read this for us from the wall street journal. this is dynamic and kissinger is warning us, but so is the secular world through the wall street journal. listen to this. egypt has not yet succumbed to an all-out civil war as syria has, but it's getting close. so are lebanon, iran, libya, yemen, somalia. tensions are more than simmering in nigeria, moli, algeria, sudan and there's no guarantee that tunisia, jordan, bahrain and pakistan will remain stable. and it's going to happen throughout all the middle east and the african countries and he states at the bottom of this article, if the muslim brotherhood wins, say goodby

we have seen how dossiers in the past, tony blair and iraq. >> that's the fear, right?at's one fear. one fear is that we have a strike against the assad regime without having the full evidence that he actually used the chemical attacks. the other fear is that we have the attack, and then it leads to -- spirals out of control. as soon is you launch an attack, even if you say it is going to be limited in focus -- >> to the place where they think the chem cical attack was launched -- >> you try to identify the unit, find out artillery, find the basis and wipe those out, there are two risks with that. one is that it then leads for sit to tat and some way we can't predict it will spill over. >> why is why no action should be launched unless you have a broad consensus that limits the potential for that happening. what is of importance here is clearly russia and china, where they would stand. >> russia and china and you may not be -- china hasn't seemed to have said very much. possibly you can persuade the chinese to sit on the fence or not veto it. russia seems very unlikely

many in britain feel they were lied to by then prime minister tony blair about the weapons of mass destruction it turned out saddam did not have. there is no appetite here for hasty entry into another middle east conflict. no matter how limited the government promises it will be. well, the british may be out but the french apparently are still in. the president hollande in paris today said the french are ready to take what he called firm punitive action against syria and all options, including military, are still on the table. >> mark phillips in london. >>> white house officials say president obama is prepared to attack syria without other countries. the president is also facing calls from congress this morning to bring the issue to a vote on capitol hill. major garrett is in washington where he'll guest host "face the nation" on sunday. the report released today, what will it say? >> reporter: it will not have as much information as the administration shared with members of congress because it's a declassified document but the administration says it will pill forward as much of the circumsta

of mass destruction being found there still hangs heavily on the legacy of former prime minister tony blaired the lessons of the past, including iraq, and we can't have the house of commons being asked to write a blank check to the prime minister for military action. >> reporter: now, a couple of other things to come out today from the u.k. government. first of all, david cameron, the prime minister, has said that there is a legal case for military action even outside of the united nations security council if that action were limited in scope and dealing particularly with the humanitarian situation, protecting human lives in syria. and then also some intelligence made public saying more or less that u.k. finds it very likely, highly likely that the assad regime was behind the chemical attack. but there's a lot of public opposition to any military action here. a poll recently shows opposition 2-1 against strikes in syria. alisyn: yeah. it's complicated here at home as well. amy kellogg, thank you for that update. jon? jon: did you know you can get busted for texting while driving even if you

so happened, i mean, it was part of the larger enron investigation, but it just so happened that tony blairntroduced a brand-new piece of extradition law which still exists to this day, which essentially means that a u.s. prosecutor can make an allegation, unsubstantiated by any evidence and request the extradition of somebody who is a resident in the uk and that's pretty much what happened to us. we spent a long time fighting the extradition, trying to get the law changed because it is an incredibly piece of law, as these gentlemen are about to find out. and to date we have not yet succeeded but we are making some progress. >> so basically you say, yes, there was wrongdoing on our part, but the extradition act, the 2003 act, that is way too onerous and we want fair treatment living in the uk, even they we didn't commit any criminal acts in the uk. >> i think one of the issues facing people extradited, 98% of people indicted in the federal system in america will end up pleading guilty. the pressure to plead guilty is enormous. once you're put on a plane, basically your goose is cooked. that

but the ghost of tony blair and the ghost of iraq hangs rather large in the british parliament and there's genuine fear about the credibility of the evidence being presented to them. the u.n. inspector general teams haven't verified the claims made more broadly. and the lack of clarity as to what exactly the objective is, is it limited strikes or the removal of the regime. and with the regime being removed, the higher risk of the regime again using chemical weapons, does that mean we're involved in a protracted war? those questions have not been clarified to the extent that the leadership of the uk parliament would like. as a result, the uk parliament voted against it. but you hit the nail on the head when you talked about the fact that the arab legal and local governments have in private encouraged the u.s. to strike, but in private, the arab league says, no, we don't support a strike. so sadly the u.s. does find itself in isolation in this particular instance. >> on exactly this point about the shadow over iraq and this verification. i want to look at what putin said earlier this morning