tony blair very differently now?> i find that one very difficult to answer partly because it is hypothetical, of course. and also it is pretty clear from the intelligence assessmentes that the suspicion as it turned out to be unfounded was that he did have chemical and biological weapons. but the battlefield use. these weren't strategic weapons. that changes the whole nature of the analysis as to whether or not invasion should take place. now as to saddam, he was -- all the time. for obvious reasons that we know. part of the plan is deception. part of it is to parade to his enemy and the gulf states that he did simply have something or other and they better be careful. >> to defend himself? >> yeah. >> thank you. now, looking at some of the original documentation we produced and disclosed by your inquiry, we go from documents from the joint intelligence committee in january of 2003, iraq emerging view from baghdad and from another document drawn up from -- after discussion at the gic on the 19th of march, 2003 by the

blair's decision based more on solidarity do not tony strategy?>> i think that is an admirably concise statement of which i agree. >> thank you. >> is it true to say that saddam hussein behaved as though he still had chemical and h biological weapons and its chemical and biological weapons had been found in anynd significant quantities, would we be judging mr. blair very differently now? >> i find that one very difficult to insert partlyly because it's hypothetical, butt also is pretty clear from theal intelligence assessment that the suspicion is that turned out to be pretty unfounded was that he did have chemical and biologicae weapons, and that these were strategic weapons. that changes the whole nature of the analysis as to whether or not invasion should take place. he was playing all three against the middle all the time. for obvious reasons that we all know. part of his plan was deception. part of it was to parade to the poll states that he did possibly have something or other and they had better be careful. >> sustain the balance of power.

. >> so was it reasonable for tony blair to conclude that there was an imminent threat? >> it would be difficult to base that on hard evidence. though it's perfectly true that he received a great deal of advice, particularly from the intelligence community that the situation regarding saddam's weapons of mass destruction was the much more of a threat, much more imminent, much more serious than proved to be the case after the event. >> but you've looked at that evidence in detail. >> yes. >> and you've just told me, i thought, that you'd concluded that evidence showed that there was not an eminent threat. >> even put at its highest, the threat couldn't be shown to be imminent in the sense of nuclear tipped or biological -- >> in the sense that is commonly understood by the term in law and international practice. >> yes. >> correct? >> i'm sorry, chairman, i missed the opening word. >> well, in the sense that is commonly accepted international law and in studies in international relations. >> what seems to me clear from the evidence is that any threat was in the future, no

you are saying, just to be clear, that there was no imminent threat and that tony blair was wrong to describe this threat effectively as imminent in the house in his 18th of march speech. >> i think choosing words as carefully and with a sense of as much fairness as i can, it was a description in that speech on the 18th which a speech was made in advocates terms and putting the best possible inflection on the description that he used. it doesn't take hindsight to demonstrate two propositions. one is that the whole of the intelligence community and not only in the united kingdom were strongly of the belief and had, they thought sufficient intelligence to support it, that saddam did have weapons of mass destruction available for years. what wasn't, i think, there was evidence that he intended to deploy them against united kingdom interests, otherwise perhaps, then as a last resort, in self-defense in the event of an invasion. >> what you are saying, as far as i can tell, that it was not reasonable for tony blair to suppose that it was an imminent threat, based on the information in fro

do we need tony blair back? >> i'm a fan of tony blairs, like all former labour prime ministers, he was a successful leader. i can't imagine him coming back to frontline politics. any prime minister in this country should have a say on the future direction we should take, i don't think tony is interested on getting back on the frontline for a statement like that. we should respect anyone who made that big contribution to public life, but times do change. i don't think tony would want to come back into the active involvement he had in the early part of his career. >> jonathan, thank you very much for being with us. jonathan reynolds. you'll forgive me for getting wind up in british politics for a moment, but i think we all want to know what tony blair will do next with his life. we're here all morning, we'll have the speech proper at 12:30 local, 13:30 cet. then we'll have reaction. back to you. >> i totally agree with regards to tony blair. seems like he's coming back, right? that's the indication. we'll see geo

the evidence available to tony blair at the time the he made the statement. so i'll just repeat the question. was it reasonable for tony blair at that time that he made that statement to suppose that there was imminent threat? >> objectively, no. subjectively, i can't answer for him. >> you mean he might have had a sudden rush of the head. >> it is addressed. he stated it was his certain belief at the time. now, that's subjective. you asked an objective question. was it reasonable to entertain that to which i say the evidence does not sufficiently support. >> i haven't, actually. i asked the question which is the test, the test the of a reasonable man. would a reasonable man, another human being looking at the evidence come to that conclusion? >> if you're posing that question with regard to the a statement of imminent threat to the united kingdom. >> i am. >> then in that case i have to say, no, there was not sufficient evidence to sustain that happened at that time. >> so he misled or set aside -- he misled the house or set aside the evidence in order to le

then i added tony blair to it.hing in the alchemy of prime minister and queen, of elected and as it were, constitutional head of state, that is something that worked for me. or i can find my way into. and that then became the audience. or it became "the queen" the movie. and then the play. i was so captivated between writing scenes between churchill and the young queen. charlie: every prime minister talks to the queen. stephen: it is a confessional. we we saw that on broadway. thank you very much. [laughter] charlie: you got to have the best director you can find. [laughter] >> that is debatable. >> bottom of the pile. charlie: here, me! >> begging, on his knees. [laughter] >> we have known each other because the community in london is smaller than the community here. we all know one another. stephen and i were working for years to find something. it has grown out of that. charlie: the challenge is casting. >> yes. it was always going to be a task. we were pretty thorough. i think we went through just about most of

. >> if tony blair had done that, would we have been sitting here today? would you be asked to commission -- look into it in such great detail. >> it would be no consultation from parliament. none of us would be sitting in the same seats today. it changes everything. >> if he hadn't. he would have -- it would have been standard procedure i don't think people would have set out -- it had not been -- correct me if i'm wrong, it had not been done to that extent before. >> i am under the impression that the convention that's short of an existential crisis would be consulted before military action was actually taken. >> that convention is surely now dominant. >> okay. you mentioned that politics have been damaged. how has it been damaged by your findings, which are not black and white like you're finding, to be fair, politicians, you have seven years, we have probably seven days. you spent a lot of money, and you have the benefit of hindsight. we didn't have any of those benefits at all. salary cost 192 million, people questioning what it achieved. has this all

. >> in my own life i wrote a film for british television about the relationship between tony blair and gordon brown and the producers, enjoyed it and said can you do one about the queen. and i tried writing the queen, and it was deathly dul t was awful. and then i added tony blair to it and something in the alchemy or chemistry of prime minister and queen, you know, of elected, as it were, constitutional head of state, that just became something that worked for me, or i could find myself into. and that then became the audience, well, it became the queen the movie, and the audience the play. and then i was so captivated writing the scenes between churchill and the young queen that i thought well, there's more to this. >> rose: every prime minister talks to the queen. >> they do. it is a con fetion-- confessional. >> right. >> rose: we saw that on broadway. >> yeah, if you did see t thank you very much. >> so then you have got to have the best director you can find. >> that is debatable. >>z. >> rose: stephen said here he me. >> he was begging, on his knees. we've known each other becaus

it's something that's really -- and i love tony blair and everything i make pretty much goes back into supporting or shopping local. >> just head to smallbusinesssaturday.com. they have a map that will point to all the participating businesses in your area. coming up, found in florida, finally in the right hands. we'll show you kelly's trip up north to return this treasure to plus -- >> just want the doctors, the therapists that i need that's been -- that i've been told i need, but i also need my family to be taken care of. >> a struggle that isn't just for soldiers. hear why this officer's battle with ttsd is also a mattel, about half the holiday weekend in the book so far, cold front heading our way tomorrow. we'll talk about the that that front, if any, then z24zwz z12fz >> we have an update on the deadly school bus crash that killed six children in chattanooga, tennessee. records show there was some concern about the bus driver in the weeks before the crash. there were reports of erratic driving, for instance. one report says he would suddenly stop the bus so students moving from t

tony blair has been talking to media outlets. also said, if the deal does not stack up, you can stop that process and go back. simon: whether that is true or not, i do not know but it will be a long and complicated road. one of the reasons sterling stabilized, the fact that we have a polar limitary -- parliament terry vote. outill be a long and drawn process. me, we are in a situation where there are lots of unknowns. but probably most of it, most of the negative stories have been factored in. give me a few ranges to work with karin simon: in the extreme, could we see another selloff? yes i do. not much below 120. situation, ag at a time, anything below 120 is going to look like a good value. yousef: he stays with us. also, we will go to johannesburg to releaseprepares the results of the south africa credit review. and then we are in paris after the remaining republican candidates in the french presidential race squared off. and then we will look at the dollar's record rally. we will get you those answers. ♪ is 1:49 in the mornin

vonnie: it seems on the side of the atlantic, there are more voices like richard branson, tony blair,ajor, coming out and saying this does not need to happen. we thought it was a done deal. as an economist, you can worry about that when you are forecasting 12 and 18 months. it is making economists' jobs difficult in britain, isn't it? >> absolutely. one of the things in these uncertainty gauges is they capture the dispersion of forecasts. after the vote, the dispersion was enormous. you had economists addicting recessions. some predicting growth slowdowns. there is more consensus now. the numbers now highlight how difficult it will be over the companiesnths and how need to tread with caution. i think it will be very difficult to get a handle on how this will play out because there is no precedent for what is going on in the u.k. and what the u.k. is about to go through. decisione chancellor's to borrow more to spend, is that going to help or hinder growth? >> i will not have much of an effect. we are still focused on deficit reduction in the u.k. the point to take away is he has made

tony blair looking to enter the political arena once again.he embattled former british prime minister said he's searching for office space near his staff near westminster to be near the center of politics. british politics. now blair, a staunch remain supporter is looking to be a player in the upcoming brexit negotiations. >>> racing in to the record booms, jimmie johnson wins his seventh nascar championship. >> jimmie, you are the champion. >> johnson holding off defending champion kyle busch for a come from behind win at homestead miami speed way. he started the race at the back of the field and only started leading with three lapse to go. he ties dale earnhardt sr. and richard petty for the most sprint cup titles ever won. >> big nascar fan? >> i used to race around my neighborhood. >> really? >> pretending that i was-yeah, back in the day. >> i used to work at nascar for a little bit. so congratulations to him. time now is nine minutes after the top of the hour. just in time for the holiday rush a popular toy is pulled from the shelves bec

>> wow tier issa may wanting lower corporate taxes. >> wow again. >> how does tony blair thing go over see him back on the stage, a o approval rate underwhelming to you the it mild the taxes the rates we see now quite a brave step by teresa may part of eu not a lot to do about before negotiating brexit it is i wouldn't say close to some kind of some kind of of a clash within europe but testing the limits. >> looks like uk and u.s. getting alined. >> looks like let's see whether that works out. >> from tragedy to triumph a doctor lost family in home invasion rises up, 11 term incumbent in state legislature we talk to him about what he hopes to accomplish in first national interview since historic win back in a moment. and morning chitchat... less interesting. xerox transportation services... ...soon to be conduent. thank you for calling. we'll be with you shortly. yeah right... xerox predictive analytics help companies provide a better and faster customer experience. hello mr. kent. can i rebook your flight? i'm here! xerox customer care services... ...soon to be conduent. wait i'm here

host: margaret thatcher and ronald reagan had a close relationship and tony blair and obama had a close relationship. who do you envision filling that role in the trump white house? guest: we don't have any track record for trump. he might come close to theresa may. there has been an emerging group overseas. he seems to have fondness for vladimir putin. bill clinton also had a fondness for boris yeltsin, that is not entirely unprecedented in u.s. history. we will have to wait and see, as on everything with donald trump and foreign policy because he really is a fibula rossa. -- tabula rasa. one thing we might end up with is trump might be the blustering unilateralism of the cheney wing of the republican party and the lack of a desire to get involved overseas of obama. he might combine the least good qualities of the last administration or he may surprise us all. we can only hope. host: the book "national insecurity:, page of leadership in fear" david rothkopf thank you for stopping by. steve spans washington journal, live every day with the news and policy that impacts you. monday mornin

i saw that tony blair, see that, tony blair coming back into the picture, going lead the remaineders and i saw a lot of people say ensures the brexit. >> by the way, chicago rahm emanuel had a quote. he said we don't want the democrats to go the way of the british labor party where they lose an election and go further left and become less influential in their politics. >> you saw the possible head of the dnc, former farrakhan accolyte. >> i'm aware of him. >> head of the dnc is not -- >> that's one that decided you pick a complete flame lower the -- you didn't learn anything from this election, you go further left. >> what you learned is that stick with your core and throw some flames. isn't that what the new administration is doing? >> i wouldn't do that. >> i won't get to -- >> like tim ryan. weren't you impressed with him. an ohio democrat. looks around. sees some working people. understands -- >> i was surprised how strident he was. he could have been much less -- his tone was needing to wake up. we don't want to lose another ten seats. >> i think he has aspirations. >> governor.

people had lost their homes, their jobs, tony blair 401-k's crashed, their home values were sinking -- their 401-k's crashed, their home values were sinking. the -- [cheers and applause] the economy was teetering on the edge of a great depression, but we turned the page. we have seen america battled back. incomes rose faster than the first time since 1968. businesses turned job losses into 15 million new jobs. 20 million more people have health insurance who didn't have it before. [cheers and applause] we kicked our addiction to foreign oil, doubled our production of renewable energy, became the leader's -- world's leader in fighting climate change. brought home more men and women in uniform. took out osama bin laden. made sure that in all 50 states people have the freedom to marry who they love. cheers and applause] that's what we did over these last eight years. that's what you helped to make ed pen, and as i travel across all 50 states, as i've gone to big cities and small hamlets, what i have always seen is what makes america great and that is its people. i have seen you, american

is it tony blair who was responsible for the failing in t paragraph 617, which i'm sure you're familiar with? >> is this in the executive summary? >> yes. >> may i look it up to remind myself?. >> 617. >> yes, we say that at no stage ministers or senior officials commission and systematic evaluation of risks and options. >> asking who is really responsible for that. >> i think he would say all of those involved but ultimately it has to be -- >> you were telling me that so many senior officials were told to shut up. >> no.>> som the i was reporting what is on the record, that the ambassador in cairo said attila graham to centracenter why don't enter ths officials, colleagues who were relevant.. and was told her reasons of security and sensitivity, probably because he was whollyly wrong, he shouldn't do that again. any such messages should go direct from anna ballis the concern in the region to the head of the diplomatic serviceri personally. that was what happened. but as to the commissioning ofbt the review, you can blame, if you wish, all of those who failed to initiate such a review b

minister may, the conservative party, and alistair darling is a tony blair, gordon brown labour right and he clearly wants to have the debate in parliament because that is what you do if you are the minority party. we heard throughout the entire interview is an understanding that england has to say this is what we believe in, and engage the debate with what ever europe is going to bring them. david: i was speaking with a senior government official in a european government that said they have taken this calling, theresa may because of an apparent -- why is she not coming forth and saying -- i thought francine lacqua was brilliant on the story of birmingham and the meeting of the party, but the idea that the conservative government in power is not in any way on the same page, maybe a lot like u.s. politics and the clarion call and manycellor darling across politics is get a message and get going, and we are clearly not there, going in. is largely an issue of politics within the conservative party in the sense that theresa may is from a different wing than her presidents -- predecessor.

tony blair is said to be searching for new office space near westminster to be near the center of britishgainst the brexit vote to leave the eu and he wants to be involved in all the negotiations. and nicolas sarcozi, he shocking just lost the primary. >>> kellyanne conway is here. you remember her, she ran the trump campaign. now what does she do? >> i'm a senior adviser. i was in d.c. last week meeting with the transition folks there. that's a really center of activity, our landing teams are there with the security teams currently in place in the obama administration and everybody feels really good about the pace and the seriousness, but it's also a place of tremendous excitement. you know, still sinking in that we won and he will be the president and vice president and he has slid into the role of president-elect beautifully. >> you guys have changed the transition team forever. you are creating a dynamic. you have break-ins to see if it's governor christie or rudy giuliani. why was it important for you guys to be public, whether it's the elevator doors or the golf club? >>s he's at an

margaret thatcher and ronald reagan had a close relationship and tony blair and obama had a close relationship. to do you imagine filling that role in the trump white house? guest: we don't have any track record for trump. he might come close to theresa may. there has been an emerging group overseas. he seems to have fondness for vladimir putin. bill clinton also had a fondness for [indiscernible] , not unprecedented in u.s. history. we will have to wait and see, as on everything with donald trump and foreign policy because he really is a tapley lasso. no experience, no direction in which you will go. one thing we might end up with, which is a little bit perhaps unexpected is that trump might see the unilateralism of the republican party and the lack of a desire to get involved overseas of obama. he might combine the least good qualities of the last administration's surprise us all. we can only hope. host: the book "national insecurity: page of leadership " david rothkopf thank you for stopping by. in case you missed it, here is how "saturday night live" began the program. [video clip] ♪ ["hal

the judge is tony blair crony. >> right. >> the one that did it. 5248 when there's millions of peoplee judge isn't supposed to be the one that decides. they didn't plan. they don't know how they are doing it. does it require parliament, does it not? >> this is the first time we have crossed this brunlg and they are going to repeal it anyway. so -- >> it's gonna go to a higher court. there's courts in the eu that can say something about the other courts. the whole system, you wonder why they are sutuck in the mud. didn't we do these? >> you can skip it if you want. >> nothing happening in asia, but there it is. oil makes you wonder about the global economy, doesn't it? here we are. everybody said above 50. okay. it's off to the races. >> 8% from the weekend. >> back down to 44. maybe it's the bill of inventory, or not just the supply, maybe it's the demand. ten year is below 18. i saw 179. the dollar, the most interesting thing happening there is what happened to the pound yesterday, got to 125, almost there today. finally, gold. that's an elected play. nobody knows what's happening. >

president bush had a close and special relationship with tony blair. who do you envision filling that role in a trump white house? david: hard to imagine. we don't have any track record for trump. he might become close to theresa may. there is this emerging group overseas. he does seem to have a certain fondness for vladimir putin. bill clinton had a certain fondness for boris yeltsin. that is not entirely unprecedented. we just have to wait and see as we will have to on everything with donald trump and foreign policy. he really is a tabula rasa. he has no experience. we have no idea which direction he's going to go. one thing we might end up with, which is a little unexpected is that trump might be the blustering unilateralism of the cheney ring of the republican party and a lack of desire to get overseas of obama. he may combine the least good qualities over the last two administrations or he may surprise us all. host: the book, national security, david rothkopf, the ceo and editor of foreign policy, thank you for stopping by. we appreciate it. journ