tony blair had new labour, you had change labour. i have six today. tony blair had new.bour, you had change labour. tony blair used to take his tie _ labour, you had change labour. tony blair used to take his tie tie - labour, you had change labour. tony blair used to take his tie tie off, - blair used to take his tie tie off, you are — blair used to take his tie tie off, you are not _ blair used to take his tie tie off, you are not wearing _ blair used to take his tie tie off, you are not wearing a _ blair used to take his tie tie off, you are not wearing a tie. - blair used to take his tie tie off, you are not wearing a tie. are . you are not wearing a tie. are you notjust— you are not wearing a tie. are you notjust a — you are not wearing a tie. are you notjust a copycat? _ not just a copycat? laughter- laughter the first thing i would say about tony blair, which is more important about taking his tie off, is that he won three elections in a row. applause and what blair did in 1997, is what wilson did in 74. that was to take the labour party from opposition to power.

let'sjust go back to 1997 when tony blair when that| to 1997 when tony blair when that landslide, 72servative mp5 stood down. we are now up to, the number is up to 108. rishi sunak by deciding to think very quickly and some may say decisively in fact, by calling the snap election for the summer, hasn't given any room to those who might be thinking about standing down to do so fairly gracefully and stand down before the campaign begins in earnest, and so this decision from michael gove was a rushed decision, he had to make a decision, he needs to say whether he's going to stand as an mp or not, he's going to stand as an mp or not, he's actually quite young. he's only 56 years old, but he joins a cast list you heard there from theresa may, deciding not to stand again. but they might be deciding to stand down for a very personal reasons, they may feel that actually they

. >> if you look at the history books, actually a lot of these same arguments were made about tony blair in 1997. he was referred to as not very popular, as quite boring. he was called bambi blair. so and if you go back further than that, you go to margaret thatcher. she was not remotely radical when she was going for her first general election. she was extremely cautious. nothing like the thatcher that governed. and so actually, what keir starmer is doing is typically what these leaders have done to get into power. >> i think there's a lot more enthusiasm for tony blair in 97 than there is for starmer now. >> but i bet you actually, i bet you £10 that there will be a bigger. well, you know, i don't have your kind of private school money, but i bet you that there will be a bigger swing under keir starmer than there was under tony blair in 1990. that's just going to be due to apathy, i think. >> i think that's just going to be no. >> it'll be the biggest swing in modern political history. >> that's what you're going to get those tory voters coming out and backing the because you're always

, he talked about tony blair, he said one thing about tony blair, he said one thing about tony blair,on three elections and that is at the heart of sir keir starmer�*s idea that changing the labour party and then trying to make it fit to govern, fit to win an election. it fit to govern, fit to win an election-— it fit to govern, fit to win an election. �* , , ,.,, , ., ,., election. and i suppose it is about whether these _ election. and i suppose it is about whether these six _ election. and i suppose it is about whether these six steps _ election. and i suppose it is about whether these six steps have - election. and i suppose it is about whether these six steps have cut i whether these six steps have cut through with the general public as we go into the general election? yes, and notjust the six steps, i think the other thing to focus on here is sir keir starmer. his position, the fact that he is front and centre there is the figure being put forward by labour, very much pushing him to the front of events today because it seems clear they will want to push him to the front of an el

and i watched all of that and there was so much focus on whether or not this is tony blair, mark two, blair? are we seeing the reinvention of blair? what do you think when you hear that? is that a comparison you welcome, or worry about? it was nearly 30 years ago, was it, the better part of 30 years - ago since tony blairl won his first victory? but distance itself doesn't mean he isn't trying to do something similar. we're not trying to go backwards. this was about looking - at the problems the country faces today and how - you project that forwards. there's one thing i would love to learn from tony blair. - he won three elections in a row, we lost the last four. _ we need to win more than one, in order to deliver that decade i of national renewal. it's very hard to think of any- public services today that perform better than they did in 2010, when the conservatives - were first elected. so the transformation . has got to be immense, but you've got to show— people how that can be achieved. at a time when people have lost faith in politics and politicians, i you've got to show them ho

tony blair was a fantastic leader. he won three elections, well, of course he's like tony blair. tony blair in absolutely every way. it was blair back in 97 that came up with the five point pledge card. compare and contrast the pictures of blair with starmer. they're starmer today walking around the stage very much as blair would have done. very much as blair would have done . do you notice the shirt, done. do you notice the shirt, the rolled up shirt. and there's tony blair with his pledge card. so that's very, very similar and have a look at the sleeves rolled up image . that's keir rolled up image. that's keir starmer today. let's go back to 1997. oh there's tony blair. and it's absolutely identical. now look there is an argument that if you find a winning formula you keep using it. but i just put this to you folks. this is blair without the flair. this is blair. this is this is almost a charisma free zone. but crucially, does this win your vote? farage @gbnews .com i'm joined by paul richards, former labour special adviser under blair and gordon brown. i'll tell you the big d

when tony blair won in 1997, he pleased. when tony blair won in 1997. he won — pleased.olls and projection of seats and saying the tories couldn't get below 100 seat, you will have to explain why the labour party is currently polling twice the lead that tony blair managed, to get, are all of the polls wrong? 0r managed, to get, are all of the polls wrong? or is there something completely broken about how we are... �* ., . completely broken about how we are... �* ., , are... before this massive poll came out, i are... before this massive poll came out. i know — are... before this massive poll came out. i know you _ are... before this massive poll came out, i know you have _ are... before this massive poll came out, i know you have messages - are... before this massive poll came j out, i know you have messages from tory mps on your phone, i had a conversation with one conservative mp who called the week thus far, an shit mp who called the week thus far, an sh1t show and that is before this poll came out. i sh1t show and that is before this poll came out-— poll came out. i

he said, i'm no tony blair light.opy of tony blair, but he should be if he wants to get into power. you worked with tony blair has sir keir starmer got what it takes to have that mass appeal or will people still think, i don't quite know what this guy stands for? well far more important is that the tories have got mass non appeal at the moment. >> and the big question for me is whether the tories are going to keep on being bonkers for the next five years, as they were under william hague and michael howard and iain duncan smith, he had to wait ten years before a human being appeared, like david cameron, to lead the tory party back to power. so that's their problem. i think mass appeal isn't quite the right word. if you know tony took a lot of correct and good decisions very early on. he really didn't put a foot wrong. if keir has that judgement, then i think the country will respond , but it country will respond, but it will depend on how the economy works and a whole range of issues, which, each new government has to

in 1997 it was all about tony blair.t borisjohnson versus last election and in 2019 it was all about boris johnson versus jeremy corbyn. these always come down essentially individual fights. there is a reason why rishi sunak would want to make that the case here. what is the problem for the public is they don't really have a view about keir starmer. but when you remind them this is the man that chose to sit besidejeremy corbyn when all of that was going on, anti—semitism, and many decent people in the labour party walked away and would not take jobs for him, he stayed there and fought to get the second referendum to put us back into the european union. this is a man who now says he has accepted the results. but the battle is about rishi sunak versus keir starmer. who do you think has the moralfibre to be starmer. who do you think has the moral fibre to be able to take those difficult decisions? who has not squared away with one group on the far left and then has come across to do something with people in the opposite dir

�*s victory. more like 1997 and tony blair's victo . ;, ~ more like 1997 and tony blair's victo . .,- victory. thank you very much, great to have you on the programme. we | to have you on the programme. we will be back in blackpool throughout the day because it was the one parliamentary by—election and the result of that is being celebrated by that man there, the new mp, chris webb for blackpool south, but not celebrated just by him, by sir keir starmer and many in the labour leadership hoping particularly that the size of the swing that, though it was pretty much predicted and expected, but the size of the swing was historically high. they will be taking some comfort from that, setting aside what row was outlining some out —— some local issues, the controversy around the previous mp, but chris webb and sir keir starmer repeating the message to the conservative prime minister rishi sunak that they want to see an election immediately. they say the country wants change, wants to move forward with labour, that is their message. but this is notjust how these results transfer to the propo

former labour party adviser to both gordon brown and tony blair. the diane abbott situation. let's just summarise it as this. she's vowing to stand in hackney north. we still don't know whether she's going to stand for laboun whether she's going to stand for labour, having had the whip removed and then restored or as an independent. she's basically saying i'm going to stand come what may. we've got starmer saying, oh, we're still deciding what's going on, and we've got his deputy, angela rayner, saying, oh, i think she should be allowed to stand alone with, along with a load of other tory mps, including jess phillips and all the rest of it. this is a bit of a mess, isn't it? yeah, it is a mess. it's been really, really badly done because actually it should have been. they've had months to do it. yes. and people feel very, very strongly that diane abbott needs to be recognised as what she is. i mean, you you cannot have keir starmer saying, you know, she was a amazing trailblazer, which he says quite rightly. and then say, i don't know whether she's

let'sjust go back to 1997 when tony blair when that| to 1997 when tony blair when that landslide, 72 in fact, by calling the snap election for the summer, hasn't given any room to those who might be thinking about standing down to do so fairly gracefully and stand down before the campaign begins in earnest, and so this decision from michael gove was a rushed decision, he had to make a decision, he needs to say whether he's going to stand as an mp or not, he's going to stand as an mp or not, he's actually quite young. he's only 56 years old, but he joins a cast list you heard there from theresa may, deciding not to stand again. but they might be deciding to stand down for a very personal reasons, they may feel that actually they don't have anything more to offer the public in terms of service to their country, but of course it adds to that rishi sunak hasn't got a team of colleagues who really back him to win this election. tibia team of colleagues who really back him to win this election.— him to win this election. 0k, thank ou ve him to win this election. 0k, thank you very much _ h

and keir starmer is more tony bennett than tony blair. he's more cnnge than tony blair.than crooner. starmer is not in power yet and he's already out of tune . reacting already out of tune. reacting furiously to that farrago of nonsense, our criminal barrister and former conservative mp jerry hayes, britain's longest serving female radio dj liz kershaw and former top tv executive mike hollingsworth, let me start with you. lovely to see you again, jerry hayes. what do we think about this new plan from keir starmer? a new labour style pledge card of six promises. will starmer keep them? >> oh, it's nothing new. it doesn't tell us anything. it's all motherhood and apple souffle. it's tony blair without the charisma. the trouble is with keir is that he's got all the charisma of a pot of pot noodle and it's cold. the trouble is, people don't trust the tories anymore. that's why it looks like the tories are going to lose. so it doesn't matter that all this nonsense is coming from keir starmer. what really matters is what's the thaw is going to do about it. yes. >> now, cherry,

, that the incumbent labour mayor might lose in london. >> tony blair didn't , win five >> tony blairections from the tories with swings over 20, culminating , in blackpool south with the third largest swing, from the tories to labour since since the second world war, this is an unprecedented, strength for the labour party and an unprecedentedly weak tory party it's not surprising to see labour back across the i mean, right across the country winning police and crime commissioner in norfolk, winning in cumbria, where labour hold no parliamentary seats. winning hartlepool winning. you know, redditch winning winning in aldershot . winning in plymouth. aldershot. winning in plymouth. i think you can go around all around the country. you can find examples of where labour's vote is delivering in exactly the constituency's labour needs to win. so you can also look at places like harlow or farnham and, and say that these are places that labour campaigned very hard . their parents lived very hard. their parents lived in fareham, is not labour. >> there are places you can you can look, you can

but we're joined now by former labour special adviser to tony blair.prescott is darren murphy. darren, look, thank you very, very much. great to have you on the show here. corbyn issues campaigning potentially for pro—palestine independence. far left independent candidates not just independent candidates not just in islington north obviously where he's standing, but quite possibly around other seats as well. it's a bit of a nightmare, this, isn't it, for labour, not really . really. >> i think what it does is it shows how much labour has changed since the jeremy corbyn days, not only is he no longer leader, he's no longer a member of the labour party , and that's of the labour party, and that's for people like me. i think that's an improved labour party, because i think people with the sort of views that jeremy corbyn has expressed in the past, really don't deserve or belong in the labour party at all. >> okay. fair enough. but there is a list of labour mps whose seats could be at risk from this quote . sun quotes, muslim vote. quote. sun quotes, musli

and keir starmer is more tony bennett than tony blair. he's more cnnge than tony blair.than crooner. starmer is not in power yet and he's already out of tune . reacting already out of tune. reacting furiously to that farrago of nonsense, our criminal barrister and former conservative mp jerry hayes, britain's longest serving female radio dj liz kershaw and former top tv executive mike hollingsworth, let me start with you. lovely to see you again, jerry hayes. what do we think about this new plan from keir starmer? a new labour style pledge card of six promises. will starmer keep them? >> oh, it's nothing new. it doesn't tell us anything. it's all motherhood and apple souffle. it's tony blair without the charisma. the trouble is with keir is that he's got all the charisma of a pot of pot noodle and it's cold. the trouble is, people don't trust the tories anymore. that's why it looks like the tories are going to lose. so it doesn't matter that all this nonsense is coming from keir starmer. what really matters is what's the thaw is going to do about it. yes. >> now, cherry,

he is not a superstar, not a tony blair or a borisjohnson. but in some ways, thatis borisjohnson. in some ways, that is actually better. people who rise me directly also for in a meteoric way. that calm, steady quality of sir keir starmer might be his greatest strength, even though it does open up these, no one knows what he stands for attacks from the tories. but they don't seem to be getting anywhere with that. he is in west sussex _ getting anywhere with that. he is in west sussex at _ getting anywhere with that. he is in west sussex at the _ getting anywhere with that. he is in west sussex at the moment. - getting anywhere with that. he is in west sussex at the moment. we i getting anywhere with that. he is in| west sussex at the moment. we are expecting him to speak imminently. we arejust monitoring expecting him to speak imminently. we are just monitoring the podium with the word change on it. he is in west sussex, and this is an area

defends, and even there the tony blair institute, in fact turns into, well, the most influential lobbying office in britain, by the way, it’s quite interesting to see, but that’s how the collection increased donations to this very organization, almost 250 million pounds were poured in there last year, and what countries are pouring in, including, of course, some monarchies of the gulf, well, our beloved countries of the central asia, well then. results of the second world war. russia was the first to introduce a resolution on the inadmissibility of glorifying nazism. mostly europeans abstained. the united states voted against it. a very well-thought-out attack in the information field on our historical self-awareness, because this is the basis of any national statehood. it is important that everyone involved in inhumane treatment of people is identified, even if they are criminals. already dead, used to watching videos online, stopped working, install, open, watch, russian channels, all series, movies and cartoons, educational programs and documentaries, watch, watch in the application or

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had went— the charisma that tony blair had went was— the charisma that tony blair had went was the leaderk the labour party— back in1997. so i think the labour party is— back in 1997. so i think the labour party is quite conscious there is still some — party is quite conscious there is still some work to be done on people knowing _ still some work to be done on people knowing who keir starmer is, getting to like _ knowing who keir starmer is, getting to like him _ knowing who keir starmer is, getting to like him and feeling that he can trust _ to like him and feeling that he can trust him — to like him and feeling that he can trust him walking into number ten. at the _ trust him walking into number ten. at the same time, they also believe in the _ at the same time, they also believe in the nuts— at the same time, they also believe in the nuts and bolts, what has he actually _ in the nuts and bolts, what has he actually going to do. lest are they set out _ actually going to do. lest are they set out some clear missions for the country. _ set out some clear missions for the country. five —

like, tony blair getting into power.re was a certain excitement there, whereas it might just be it feels like more that we're just so sick of the tories and destroying the country for the last 14 years, there's no britpop anthem , what was it britpop anthem, what was it called? things can only get better. there's none of that. there's no buzz. >> it's not exciting. there's no obama esque , you know, this obama esque, you know, this hope. >> it's just the idea that something horrible is going to happen. that's why they're not that excited about it. and who knows? i didn't listen to the thing it was on. it was on the bbc. so that's this is obviously probably not true. he basically he said neil kinnock and i had to remember who the guy was. i'm surprised the guy was still alive. he was around like 40, 50 years ago. and he basically said people don't like starmer but they're going to like starmer. so it wasn't like, you know, this guy's horrible, but you know, put up with it. number one, he said that that they're going to li

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she was succeeded by john major, who held the post until tony blair's labor government won the may 1997election. personally, i will miss her because i value her advice. i appreciate her many years. wisdom that comes from her many years of experience, she was an outstanding prime minister of the united kingdom, and an outstanding friend of the united of the states after 90, lady thatcher, as she became, remained a powerful political figure. she wrote two volumes of best-selling memoirs, the downing street years and the road to power, and continued to lecture around the world for a decade. to the rich, not because of human mercy, but because of their own rational interest. so you don't need to be a saint to make the economy work well. you have to set the rules and then give people the opportunity to do their jobs. in 2002 a book of reflections on international politics, art, and state management was also published in 2016. during this time, she made several important interventions in domestic british politics, in particular with regard to bosnia and the maastricht treaty. in march 2002, a

is he just aping tony blair? but then again, is he blair without the flair?an tonight. live in the studio, dorothea baron, as we help a fundraising campaign to get people over to normandy on the 6th of june for the 80th anniversary of the landings. and joining me on talking pints tonight. well, he's a face that you've seen on television for decades. he's you've seen on television for decades . he's always got a decades. he's always got a crack. he's always smiling. i'm looking forward to talking pints with roy walker. but before all of that, let's get the news with tatiana sanchez . tatiana sanchez. >> nigel. thank you. the top stories from the gb newsroom. sir keir starmer has told gb news there'll be no tax cuts under a labour government until the economy is back on the path to growth. the labour leader says that while he wants to keep

the challenges we face now are not the same as those faced by tony blair. >> keir starmer insists he's

and tony blair or alastair campbell on behalf of tony blair, famously said , we tony blair, famouslydo god, even though we know that tony blair was, you know, a devout christian. daniel. >> well, there are two separate things here, aren't them? the first is there are certain policy issues which traditionally have been regarded as matters of conscience and not party policy. so they would include things like abortion, for example. so is the death penalty. are others where mps and others have always been allowed to vote? according to their conscience and there hasn't been a party policy. what's happened on the left? the liberal democrats in particular, explicitly now make some of these things part of their party policy . so if you're not happy policy. so if you're not happy with those things, david alton, who sits in the house of lords, was a liberal democrat mp. he left the liberal democrats years ago over his opposition to abortion because he wasn't allowed to carry on expressing his own conscientious view, while still remaining part of a party which now officially, supported it. so t

that didn't happen in the run up to tony blair becoming pm.and utter decomposition, and, it's not good for the country. trust me. >> i've just been interviewed by a french journalist for an hour, and i said my hope and prayer. >> is that in opposition , the >> is that in opposition, the conservative party recover. >> what? once they were, they go down the french road. a real horrible right wing extremism that labour's guaranteed two terms. >> goodness me. well denis macshane, thank you so much for joining us and talking through what is a sensational afternoon in british politics here in westminster. really appreciate your time . thank you. your time. thank you. >> i'm not convinced this benefits the labour party ehhen benefits the labour party either. really. oh i think it does.i either. really. oh i think it does. i mean i guess it does perhaps to the general. what do you think? let us know at home. gbnews.com/yoursay >> i think the majority of voters aren't political obsessives . most people aren't obsessives. most people aren't glued to the

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there's tony blair with his little card.didn't he, all his mps, so that they could have it always to hand. and then we also had, ed miliband, which perhaps was more of a, a stone of doom here. he unveiled with his six, better plan, better future , six plan, better future, six pledges. did he call them? >> he called them pledges cast in stone . although people ended in stone. although people ended up calling it the ed stone, which was, perhaps, a bit of a blunder . which was, perhaps, a bit of a blunder. there was all sorts of rumour about where this stone ended up , whether it got broken ended up, whether it got broken down after the election, whose garden it's plonked in, but, catherine is this going to ed up, is this going to end up much more like, tony blair's successful card or ed miliband's slightly less successful slab of doom ? doom? >> well, we'll find out with a general election , won't we? but, general election, won't we? but, obviously there 20 points ahead. of course , things can always of course, things can alwa

, they feel it is time _ under tony blair, they feel it is time for— under tony blair, they feel it is change. as for chaos, he wants to — time for change. as for chaos, he wants to characterise the conservatives' time in office. he wants— conservatives' time in office. he wants to — conservatives' time in office. he wants to have a go at the conservatives 14 years of government. interestingly in his speech— government. interestingly in his speech this morning, he also found time to— speech this morning, he also found time to attack liz truss, even though— time to attack liz truss, even though she spent about as much time in office _ though she spent about as much time in office as _ though she spent about as much time in office as this campaign it will last _ in office as this campaign it will last also— in office as this campaign it will last. also interestingly, i asked keir starmer about the conservatives attack _ keir starmer about the conservatives attack on _ keir starmer about the conservatives attack on him, that he didn't have a plan and he — attack on him, that he didn't hav

it tony blair, particularly over foreign policy.ened to david cameron over environmental policy and gay marriage. so the longer you're in power, the more , perhaps scepticism you face from the electorate. but, i mean, that's just a fact of politics in every country. but the thing that good leaders do is, listen, i think tony blair was good at that most of the time. and i think keir starmer showed he's good at listening to people and not trying to railroad through policies and blindly. >> all right, peter edwards, i'm going to bring in the panel. now, david, i'm going to start with you. i wonder that the rhetoric you had earlier about the uni party and saying, there's no real difference between the two, you know, peter, they set out his case for laboun do peter, they set out his case for labour. do you still think that? >> yeah, i do, i still think there isn't much difference in terms of policy between what i call the fake conservatives and laboun call the fake conservatives and labour. i mean, they're both adherent to the net zero i

uh, it's quite likely that it will mean the uh, the fact the re emergence of tony blair and tony blair is, yeah, okay, absolutely. front and center with the, with global is, uh, with the a obviously the you, the leaders and, you know, easily uh, begins eventually as the backs along. so i mean, is it still you do, i think is quite likely that'll be re living the glory days of the late ninety's in the early as of as a century. so it is, this kind of intervention is um and mentality will continue. now the question is, what, how, how does the public respond to that? but now we're, so we've seen in the u. k, the saint frances in the united states, there is real, real protest. and what's different about these protest um, as opposed to the uh, fraudulent bogus protest of 2020, of the summer of george floyd. it is that these protests are about something, there is a, there are there against them. each dimension on, on behalf of israel, they're against, there's an unconditional support for the, for risk atrocities. and that demanding that the, the institutions distance themselves divest from isr

k. above is quite likely that it will mean the uh, the fact the reemergence of tony blair and tony blair is yes. okay. absolutely. front and center with the, with global is, uh, with the a, obviously the he, you, the leaders and you know, easily uh, begins, eventually as the backs along somebody is still here. do i think it's more like it'll be reliving the glory days of the late ninety's in the early as of as a century? it um so it is, is this goes into eventually us mens mentality. so we'll continue. now the question is, what, how, how does the public respond to that? and now we're, so we've seen in the u. k, this evening, frances, in the united states, there is real, real protest. and what's different about these protest um, as opposed to the uh, fraudulent bogus pro test of 2020, the summer of george floyd. it is that these protests are about something there they are. there are there against them. is it mentioned on, on behalf of israel, they're a, gave us as an unconditional support for, for risk atrocities and demanding that the, the institutions this, those themselves divest from

it would be a larger labour victory than tony blair's landslide in 1997.e largest win by any party in modern parliamentary history, except for 1931. 18 members of that current conservative cabinet would go , and some prominent would go, and some prominent members outside it as well. the likes of sir jacob members outside it as well. the likes of sirjacob rees—mogg, likes of sir jacob rees—mogg, joanna. the only hope for rishi sunak now is surely some kind of labour implosion, isn't it? >> yeah, and i mean the chances of that clearly. i mean, i know that labour have gone through that labour have gone through that thing this week, but nowhere near anything that the conservatives have gone through kind of consistently. and i think that that's the problem with the conservatives even though they've called this election, it's almost as if they're just addicted to attracting scandal or things going wrong. and i think that even if it's something that it isn't specifically the conservatives fault, just people looking around, reading the newspapers as things that ac

tom: how results compared to last year leading up to tony blair's victory in 97. you will scrutinize? lizzie: the two key races, actually it is not definite that they are going to lose. they're both conservatives and labor is trying to take those seats. they represent the bar of success if conservatives hold on and labor facing areas. the team is projecting confidence and street is more at risk because the prime minister's decision to cancel high-speed rail, dramatic decision in the autumn. we will await results. we get street tomorrow. tom: he spoke out against that decision. there had been speculation in westminster that the tories did badly, soon back would be full durable to a run. it's early days and there is a caveat. do we have a sense as to whether the prime minister is safe? lizzie: you're never safe, plotting has been going on for months. the rebels wanted to show that a change of leader could make sure they are not wiped out in the general, but the prime minister could claw his way through even if they lose half the seats, if they hold on to the two may

the 2005 general election — tony blair won a 66—seat majority, the sort that keir starmer would kill michael howard's conservatives and share of the vote nationally by 2.8 percentage points. so when you look at conservatives saying, "0h, well labour, are only nine points ahead on projected national share, even with a vast independent and green vote, which wouldn't happen at a general election". well, actually, in some scenarios, if the vote is efficiently distributed on the first past the post, you could be winning by a lot less than that and still end up with a big majority in the house of commons. i mean, i don't think that is nerdy and i think you've got to look at the machinery of our general election politics in order not to make a simple read across from the local election politics. because all of our listeners in scotland didn't have this election. all of our listeners in northern ireland didn't have this election, and all of our listeners in wales only elected police and crime commissioner. so they do not want us saying, "oh, i know what will happen in edinburgh, glasgow, abe

tony blair famously said , i want 50% of young people said, i want 50% of young people to go to universityhat's to go to university. that's great, i support that. what about the other 50? what about the forgotten 50? we need to be prioritising apprentices, so those young people who don't go to university can get those highly paid, secure jobs that we are creating here in lancashire how. >> now. >> jake berry, just finally, the labour party today has sent out their attack dog, darren jones, to claim that the conservative party has an enormous black hole in its spending plans. this is what he said. >> well, look, the conservative party has set out a number of policies in this first week of the general election campaign, which is over £70 billion of unfunded spending commitments. and it's for the conservative party to answer the question, how are you funding these commitments ? as we've said it commitments? as we've said it today, there is a real risk of unfunded policies affecting directly family finances, as we've experienced after liz truss and kwasi kwarteng lost darren jones, saying that

more context on this, but it's things can only get better, which i guess is a throwback to the tony blair era britain were you surprised that he decided to move forward into the sooner that he had two and what what are the years? specialist in optics. what what does this all say? >> what we're renaming it, drowning street number one i so the music was being blasted for the end of downing street where labour supporters, the opposition party supporters and they were playing the tune that swept tony blair to power. >> so they were trawling and basically, and for some reason, the downing street people didn't manage to sort out the sound. so that was into it, interrupting it. all people are distracted by the brain, the bigger question though, exactly what you're saying. it was a shock announcement because i mean to say it's an uphill struggle for him. i think you're being very polite. they're casey gaza's your way it's an i mean, it's his polling numbers could not be worse he by any standard is not going to win this election if things carry on as they are. but he has to have an election by the

, rather winner, sir tony blair, rather than the most drastic of losers.boss, one mrjeremy corbyn. it's also worth noting that while offering a watered down version of blairism , sir down version of blairism, sir keir just this week met and negotiated with trade union barons the reports claiming he has already been pressuring ed into scrapping certain plans. following these meetings is what keir starmers labour party seems to be offering is a diluted rehash of blairism and recent tory policy , while taking refuge tory policy, while taking refuge in the pockets of trade union bosses. in the pockets of trade union bosses . as ever. let me know bosses. as ever. let me know your thoughts, mailmogg@gbnews.com. i'm very pleased to be joined now by an old friend of the programme, the pr tycoon and former labour councillor, kevin craig, kevin , councillor, kevin craig, kevin, first of all, you can be bothered to dress properly before speaking to an audience. why does he dress like a hobo? you. >> you were lying down in parliament with your slippers on. it went vir