tony bobulinski's story hasn't changed. the white house story change and the justice department story change. tony bobulinski has not waivered. he presented the facts to the committee. just as importantly to the country. >> sean: congressman smith, let's talk to you about tony bobulinski and the allegations that he made and the things he testified to today. he worked with hunter biden to create the joint venture with the chinese energy people and met with joe biden in 2017 and joe biden enabled his son hunter to sell access to the united states to our most dangerous adversaries, chinese communist party, russia and more. and it was clear joe biden was the brand sold by the biden family. what is your reaction to that testimony? >> sean, that's right. today tony bobulinski confirmed what the 2 irs whistleblowers said months ago. they said that joe biden is the brand and the family business is selling the brand across the country to all of these foreign entities like china and russia. what is interesting today, tony bobulinski

tony bobulinski the big guy biden wa s the business. what did you learn today? ell, we learned a lot in tony,n but linskey handled himself very well. i've never seeeveen atn democrar anyone act worse in a thposition than they did. the democrats couldn't handle the truth. and that's what tony mortality delivered today. he delivered the truth. he talked about joe's involvement. he talked about the numerous times he talked to joe biden. he mentioned that joe biden thanked him for what he was with his brother and his his son. so joe biden, very well. the role tony bobulinski was playing in the in the biden orbit. >> and he talked about what he csc was. and i think every american will be concerned if they couldncerne understand exactly what csc was trying to do. they were trying to implement their belt and road initiative in the united states. everything that we have bipartisan agreemen havt in congress to prevent china from doing in the united states . csc was was trying to acquire the services of the bidens to be able to remove the barriers of entry into our market.

i know you're interviewing tony bobulinski this upcoming tuesday.u expecting to get from if him? >> well, tony bobulinski appears to be the one honest guy that was involved in all of these biden business deals. in fact, he was so honest it looked hike hunter cut him out -- like hunter cut him out according to the e-mails at the very end and kind of ripped tony off. but tony bobulinski was privilege to a lot of information about just exactly what the binds were going to do with china, and i think it's important for the american people to know exactly what cefc was, who actually owned it and what role joe biden played in cefc. and i think tony if bobulinski has those answers, and we're very excited about his interview this week. maria: let's talk about in a moment. bobulinski worked with hunter biden in cefc. he said he met with joe biden in 2017 even though the president has continually denied that he had any involvement in his son's overseas business deals. in december bobulinski told me in part he should call his son hunter and brother jim as they

i'm told by sources in the room with tony bobulinski that he's testified under oath that he met with n in 2017 in los angeles on the sidelines of that conference. and it wasn't just a quick meeting. apparently bobulinski testified that he met with john bolton for 45 minutes to an hour back in may of 2017. that is happening right now, a source said that bobulinski confirmed under oath that joe biden is the big guy or he was the big guy in the e-mails that have been floating around for years. i think what happened in 2020 is when the bobulinski allegations came forward, it was around the same time that the hunter biden laptop became public or the e-mails from that laptop bake public. the mainstream media and democrats started to conflate the two. the hunter biden laptop was russian disinformation is so is tony bobulinski. despite what we saw before the election with intelligence officials saying the laptop was russian disinformation, it was not. we're seeing all of this culminate today. >> martha: one of the things that stand out to me, tony bobulinski is starting to not like tealing wi

tony bobulinski's said that for four years and been forward about that. think jim biden was square with us in this interview, and as a chairman comer mentioned, that's why the staff is going back through the transcript and figuring out exactly what he said and where that disagrees with what we know to be true. maria: are you going to ask hunter biden what the business was? because, you know, looking at all these millions of dollars that you have identified that have gone to biden family members, it begs the question what were they paying for? >> yeah. they were paying for the brand, access to the brand with. the brand was joe biden. we knew that from devon archer was hunter biden's business partner. we got that when deb archer was in his deposition last summer. so everyone knows it was access to the brand. best example is hunter biden is working with -- hunter biden and his business partners are working with cefc, these eight individuals from china. they're trying to close this deal. the agreement doesn't get finalized, done until their at the four season

larry: tony bobulinski tough larry: tony bobulinski very tough definition, he told biden sold out thelk to arizona congressman andy biggs, he was in the room, thank you for this, this is brutal, candid and direct, just coming through this, basically he is saying the influence peddling depending on the biden name and the power of the higher office the biden family business was joe biden. and he accuses them of dealing with the china oil company and the ukraine in aicul particular and i'll get your testimony in a t minuteo. he cited the fact that joe bidel was sitting next to hunter biden when they did the $10 millionis shakedown of the energy ceo sitting right next t to him. , is that what you heard, you were in the room today. >> tony bobulinski was forceful and provided documentation and i think is credible, everything bythat he says has been verified by other people when he said joe biden was a product of the bidee family was selling that waser verified by devon archerif andhe others, when he said he met with joe biden he can tell you the day, where and why joe biden was there and h

maria: todd, you showed a techs to tony bobulinski, james said something like don't discuss. todd: . >> they don't i want out. maria: don't discuss joe's just a moment. todd: i believe underlying premise don't want n that to get out tony bobulinski says they shouldn't want that to get out it underscores i don't do want have beat up on kelly day i will sigh a lot of people in prison for a lot less when they didn't have quote/unquote smoking gun evidence when you put all evidence together again there are people in prison people convicted for a lot less, so, yes, we all want this actual smoking gun. to use a boston word irregardless, you don't need there is enough in my estimation i am done beating up on kelly. maria: democrats keep saying there is no smoking gun despite the fact every day james comer comes on i spoke with james comer on "sunday morning futures" hear from the chairman of the oversight committee what he told me sunday. . >> we need to no exactly what the chinese were paying biden family members for i think if -- we've seen with all the evidence played out they we

liz peek, jump in here. >> in 2020 tony bobulinski did something very brave.al debate he told the public was a liar, that he was involved in had his son's businesses, 10% for the big guy was the shocking revelation of the time. but he also said that his phones and other equipment of that kind had been turned over to the fbi. i think it would be very interesting to know what happened to his phone, what happened to all his computers and so forth that the fbi had. where are they investigating all of that? i hope your committee will delve into that. >> yeah, that is definitely on our dock docket as well. as you said, every time we take a step forward, we find three more steps that we need to take. now, as it pertains to the fbi, you know the fbi hasn't been forth hadc coming and easy to dl with, with the oversight committee. i have confidence in our chairman, mr. comer, that he won't stop until gets to the bottom of this. notfor himself and for the amern people. they want to know the truth. what are you hiding? maria: you can understand how frustrated people are t

the oversight committee cannot get a better witness than tony bobulinski.has personal knowledge. >> harris: i want to remind everybody why hunter's business dealings matter and the access to a president of the united states who said he had nothing to do with anybody that hunter was doing business with and then we find out later in certain years he did, that he was meeting with people. so the bottom line is national security. i give you the last word. >> harris, we have talked about this over and over again. there is this legal component and what you have here is the political component. you have joe biden in charge of the department of justice and running the white house. so james biden and hunter biden have that political protection. the legal right and wrong of this matter is being intersected with the politics of this. what we'll find out is whether or not the house oversight committee can get enough evidence to go in and prosecute this case on the floor by way of impeachment. >> harris: it's a lot. i am glad you were in "focus" and we get to talk about

failed, jim biden who had multiple people he still owes hundreds of thousands of dollars to or tony bobulinski whose story has not changed, a successful business guy and said certain things that jim biden totally disagreed with. jim biden said hunter biden -- excuse me, joe biden never met with tony bob l bobulinski. tony bobulinski said it four four years. i don't think jim you biden was square with us through the interview. they're going through the transcript to find out what he said and where it disagrees to what we know to be you true. maria: that would be an issue if this is perjury. >> this is why this wednesday testimony of hunter biden will be so critical. what comer and jordan have done, they put together, worked closely together as they did on the interview yesterday morning on sunday morning futures to come up with the next leg. they're being very methodical and careful. gila nis, his testimony came frm prison. bobulinski has never changed his story. i wonder if joe biden if it's because he doesn't remember that he met with bobulinski. i know that's cruel to say. after what i've so

but what we noef different last week we had tony bobulinski for one transcribed interview he said the 2017 where he sat down with president biden, and explained exactly all the business twists that chinese energy company james biden was also part of. maria: and they were negotiating this, according to tony bobulinski, while joe biden was still vice president. before 2017. so i am looking at this politico article how james biden title is biden's brother used his name biden to promote a hospital chain that collapsed jim biden played a major role in american americore government xhufd massive medicare fraud the piece goes on to really deal the way the bidens came up with a structure, so they could get paid, jim biden spoke of plans to give brother joe equity in americore according to one americore executive talk installing him on the board of directors according to second faukdz about jim biden offering to secure capital for investors from middle east also talking about money up front one domestically situation james biden trying to get business from americore the communist party of chin

just a quick thing on the tony bobulinski situation.n rob walker said if joe biden forgot, that joe biden met with the cefc chinese executive energy in 2017, so even rob walker was not cooperative is going to say what tony bobulinski is going to confirm today. >> ainsley: even merrick garland's former professor, did you all read this was saying -- he was complaining about merrick garland keeping robert hur on after donald trump. because he is now investigating joe biden and he is the one who said he had a poor memory. and so this law professor said, that he was trying to do -- he was trying to play in the middle, play it safely. and he shouldn't have done that and also about biden's age, as brook was saying. he is going to have a physical before the election. but they are not committing -- the white house is not committing to letting the media talk to the doctor. >> brian: which is crazy, you remember the doctor after trump, congressman from texas. sat there and took questions for 45 minutes. >> ainsley: jackson. >> brian: they mocked h

. >> tony bobulinski is hunter biden's former business partner going to testify tomorrow in front ofpeachment inquiry into president biden, i have house oversight committee chairman james comer what he is expecting to hear on "sunday morning futures" yesterday. watch this. >> we teed to know exactly what chinese were paying biden family for i think we've seen now with all the evidence that played out, they weren't paying hunter biden for brilliant mind insure as webbing weren't paying joe biden for his brilliant mind we need to know what zal bidens delivered. >> do you believe tony bobulinski has more recordings he has been holding on to -- >> i don't know he has been treated very poorly by bidens they attacked him, you can -- interview tony bobulinski a picture what those of us on oversight committee have been through we've seen obstructed, we have been harassed intimidated. maria: congressman, they also told me that some of their potential witnesses have been attacked and intimidated trying to get them noter oath. >> tony bobulinski others they are done with that going to say what

i think tony bobulinski has those answers. >> harris: a new op-ed is warning the biden family, bobulinskithe most deadly impeachment witness. about a month ago you may recall hunter biden's business partner walker said joe biden met with the head of the chinese firm his son was making deals with in 2017. the president said repeatedly he didn't have anything to do with anybody with his son's business deals. democratic house staffers in a memo writes. republicans have sacrificed the privacy and safety of these individuals in the name of digging up dirt on the biden family. an effort which has spectacularly failed. ben domenech, spectator editor at large. would you describe it as a failure what republicans are doing and digging up truths and unearthing meetings that the president said he never had? >> this is as ridiculous as when they tell us that we see the president and we can tell that he is completely on top of everything and he is the the hardest working guy who has ever held the job. it is laughable on its face, harris. i think it's important to understand what the republicans are try

faculties advancing age fault memory current interviews, we know next week going to haeb from tony bobulinskilinski says president biden is lying because he said we met in 2017. >> president is saying look that never happened you have to wonder miranda if the president doesn't remember at all? >> i think that lets him off the hook, too much, really that was what robert hur was doing robert hur trying to find a way to justify why he wasn't bringing charges. and so it is -- it is the things that he did from the president all the president's allies, this morning, all spanning out across the media is to attack robert hur call him trumpee. >> he can't win dammed if he does dammed if he doesn't, he should have charged joe biden because joe biden had all these classified documents all over the place, senate days stashed, in have very insecure locations, like in a complete mess in his garage. so i think, robert hur had to find something justify that calling him elderly man with poor memory i am sure joe biden when asking questions during entire true with robert hur said he couldn't remember anything

tony bobulinski says it's his opening statement. me that joe biden was the brand being sold by the family, joe biden was more than a participant and beneficiary of his family's business he was enabler despite being buffered by a complex scheme to maintain plausible deniability, what did you walk away from yesterday with aba tony bobulinski testimony. >> it was damning testimony and it solidifies evidence that has been compiled by chairman comer and chairman that biden operated a pay to play scheme where the members of the family were enriched by access to the big guy. bribery statutes are clear that bribery of a family member, constitutes bribery of a government official. the biden family benefited joe biden just as a benefited his family members as well and bribery is a high crime that is listed as an impeachable offense. we will continue to follow the facts where they lead. maria: you think you have a smoking gun that joe biden was involved? >> i believe the bank records combined with the testimony are overwhelming. maria: grow qu

and house members cory mills and scott perry will tell us what the house will do about this and tony bobulinskiestified before house oversight that bidens sold out the u.s. to ukraine. and to china. and then, joe biden will get a medical, but not cognitive testing, how will we know if he still has all of his marbles? first let's go to our own edward lawrence, standing by at the white house, with all of the gory details of today. edward, a lot cooking. reporter: a lot, you talked about market, hotter than expected cpi inflation report, signals to the federal reserve they may not cut rates until maybe in the summer, that is the market reaction, trying to figure out you know when a march or may rate my be off of the table now. white house trying to spin it month or month, key indicators point to inflation possibly ticking back up. >> obviously we understand there is more work to be done, this is an economy in a much different place from a year ago, than 3 years ago. when you see, when you see eggs and milk, and products like that, at the grocery store going down, they are lower than a year ago, th

so chairman, can you tell us about that and what else you learned from owe any bobulinski's -- tony bobgether a deal. it didn't get put together until after joe biden leaves the vice presidency. but it was shortly thereafter and frankly the deal didn't get sealed, the agreement didn't get finalized until joe biden shows up at the lunch at the four seasons, does a quick drop-by. but he presents to the entire group and a few weeks later hunter biden gets $3 sent to him from cefc. joe biden was involved i think in closing the deal. that's what tony bobulinski testified to last week when we had him in for a deposition. maria: i want you to tell me about the strategy they used for cefc in terms of getting paid because there is a very detailed article in politico about how james biden used his name, his family name, biden, to promote, get money and then the company collapsed but in this article it goes through how they set up the structure that he wanted to give his brother equity in americore, that he wanted to install his brother perhaps on the board or he was going to be on the board. they

tony bobulinski texting back they should be paranoid about that.ked about. how did democrats spin something that is so obvious? >> it is hard for them, but remember, todd, what is happening now is entirely different light being shed since joe biden denied or not remembered having this meeting. robert hur's report puts that in a different light. they have no interest talking about what joe biden did to help his son biden or how he benefited from the transactions. it is a bad set of facts that make joe biden look corrupt and quite possibly be corrupt because of the way he did business as vice president and some decisions as president. >> todd: my three year old puts her fingers and her ears and says, la, la, la, that is what they are doing. now fani willis's affair could get her disqualified. in studying law, d disqualification can occur. the filing presented conflict that can't be as a matter of law. that is a lot of mumbo jumbo, do you think fani willis should be disqualified and if she is, what happens to her case against donald j trump? >> the ju

biden family insider tony bobulinski testifies today that joe biden "enabled and again fitted from hisselling access to u.s. government to the u.s.' most dangerous adversaries in russia". tell us more about this. >> joe biden period and what we've been hearing in some the top secrets that we have number oned a vir especially pea knowledge and the tale of two cities between him and rob walker and wondering if they're finding $50,000 and get off a deal with cocaine joe biden popped in on another meeting and they've been listed out deep and these people are compromised from top to bottom. elizabeth: tony bobulinski is a decorated person and from the energy department and he's testifying that the china company cefc permanently tarted joe biden is hunter biden to infiltrate and compromise the obama white house and the obama white house and doj red flagged this chinese cfc company as a known surrogate of chinese communist party. >> yes, ma'am, i just left part of that testimony not 15 minutes ago and mr. bobulinski is very precise and he speaks very well and he doesn't have to use notes and

maria: a great question, back in december tony bobulinski told me, he said i said look, the president assessing, that he has nothing to do with any of this he told me, tell joe biden to stop lying. maybe when i testify i can remind him of the meetings we had together, one-on-one with others, more on biden naem this morning the department of justice veiled hunter biden cell phone had photos of alleged drug use november and disease 2018 show cocaine crack cocaine, drug paraphernalia on his phone. cheryl: look at the end of the day, it is about "the big guy" about access to the big guy all meetings over and over this is what we have found in investigations in the house things to jim jordan, james comer. is that it was about selling access to the vice president biden full stop, getting there obviously, the republicans have to credit taken their time to make sure they get all facts in order, this laptop, by the way, they got a copy of the tlap given to hunter attorneys what are they are doing with it going to use that as defense? at the end of the day he is still facing gun charges sweethe

tony bobulinski was there the other day and they went eight hours. was it nine hours of testimony? biden goes in and see, two committees will be present there and ready with their questions and democrats will be ready to fight back and then we'll wait for the transcript imagine tonight or tomorrow we'll hear a thing or two what happened. >> dana: a lot to cover. "politico" did a long piece whether jim biden is somebody who had basically gotten a payment from a group called americorps out of pennsylvania and there was a $2 hundred thousand payment made to him. on that same day there was a payment made to president biden from a personal account from jim biden. is there are just questions that are going to need to be answered today by james biden. it is interesting. sometimes when they are behind the scenes you might get leaks but sometimes not complete, right? everybody is just getting out the information they think will help their side. what matters is that it is something where you have to be truthful. you are sworn to tell the truth. >> bill: a lot of members in there. judiciary a

democrats keep insists that tony bobulinski is lying. attorney said it is catagorically false to assert mr. bobulinski failed to provide evidence that biden was involved in business dealings, bobulinski's motivation will soon be available for all to see, called it false characterization and no place in debate. they sound confident that bobulinski will be debunked or his motivations exposed. >> there are a lot of receipts, text, bank accounts, millions of dollars flowing to biden family members and cnn said it was uncorroborated, there is a lot of evidence building up what the biden family was doing. the thing that is amazing to me -- >> laura: what did he get? >> corporate propagandist. >> laura: what did chinese energy giant get from hunter biden? is he an energy expert? no evidence i've seen indicate former coke head was an expert in international energy policy or investment. >> we all know -- >> laura: what did chinese get and what was china promised if anything? those are important to know. >> they got joe biden. it is obvious what th

more, tony bobulinski said this, the big guy, it says ten held for h for the big guy.he h in the message was hunter biden and the big guy 100 percent is joe biden. the pig guy was joe biden. i mean, he's been ignored by the media, mike davis. the question here is, can he be ignored by the justice department, tony bobulinski's statements and evidence? >> well he can be ignored by the justice department because they ignored him since october of 2020 when he went to the fbi with this information. the justice department at the end of the trump administration, the corrupt fbi ignored him and the biden justice department, including david weiss, has been protecting the bidens for the last 3-plus years. so i don't expect the biden justice department to do anything this, and this is why the house republicans, their investigation with james comer and oversight committee is so critically important. >> trace: yeah, so james biden goes on the hill tomorrow, no. really testimony. he's being asked questions behind closed doors. certainly he can't lie to congress, katie but how import

larry: so, tony bobulinski, very tough deposition today.kraine and china. let's talk to arizona congressman andy biggs. he was in the room. he joins us now. andy, thank you for this. this sound was very brutal, just very candid, very direct. just thumbing through this basically he is saying the influence peddling depended on the biden name and the power of his higher office. the biden family business was joe biden period and he accuses them of dealing with the china oil company and the ukraine and in particular, andy, apparently he cited, i will get your testimony in a minute, but apparently he cited the fact that joe biden was sitting next to hunter biden when they did that 10 million-dollar shakedown of the chinese energy ceo, sitting right next to him. so is that what you heard? you were in the room today. >> yeah, mr. bobulinski was very forceful, provided documentation and, you know, i think he is credible. everything he says has been verified by other people so, when he says joe biden was the, was the product that the biden family was

and the next week, another one of hunter's old business associates, tony bobulinski. guess what? he's going to share his story with lawmakersth about thelatest h big guy. here with the very latest, house oversight committee chairman . james comer is with us. so welcome back. let me ask you about this case . you have releasedhave the transcript rel of. this woman, her name is carole fox, the trustee who represented americorps, tru a now bankrupt health care company. w bapt and she said she couldn'tole ja determine what role james biden played. no identify any paperwork, backing up any loansr id made to him from a company struggling in 2018. companyshe's the trustee of the of the bankruptcy estate, and she is nowstat sued joe'sed brother james, and ever suedpa him in 2022 because he didn'tth repay the 600,000 in loans and she couldn't identify the services loans that were allegedly provided. >> and she found no documentary evidence for consulting or marketing at all. what's marketi going on here? >> that sounds like being paid for doing nothing. >> yeah, well, there'slica a pattern

you might remember the name tony bobulinski. behind closed doors as part of the impeachment inquiry into president biden. david spunt is live on the hill as well watching that. what do you expect? good morning. >> good morning. bobulinski arrived on capitol hill a short time ago. unlike some of the other hunter business associates that spent hours before democrats and republicans answering questions he won't be so kind to hunter biden or president joe biden. he said he has met directly with them several times. republicans are you praising him before he testifies. democrats say he has serious credibility issues. we expect him to sharply criticize hunter biden and joe biden. to refresh everyone tony bobulinski worked with hunter biden to create a joint venture called a holding company with the chinese energy company cefc. he says he met with joe biden in may of 2017 and provided text messages that prove he met joe biden in 2017 after he left the vice presidency. bobulinski says he texted the president's brother, jim biden, after t

it comes down to tony bobulinski in the end. there was a big town hall last night, donald trump addressing political rivals, joe biden and nikki haley during said town hall. take a listen. >> she's not working, she's here, down by 30 or 35 points and everybody knows her. you are not supposed to lose your home state and she is losing it. i will challenge him right now, we can do you, anybody you want, i will take anybody from cnn, which is doing poorly in the ratings, by the way. i will take anybody, you have an obligation in this case to debate. i don't think he will debate, i don't think so. >> todd: any chance democrats let biden continue and will nikki haley continue to super tuesday? >> kaylee: joe biden couldn't bring himself to do a super bowl interview, i doubt he will get on the stage with donald trump. every time biden refuseings to do hits with the press or refuses to take questions or debate trump, the public will see that and realize there are concerns about his age he is not willing to address and they are going to

tony bobulinski leaving 0.0% doubt. >> brooke: yeah, tony bobulinski testified for hours behind closed doors from 10:00 a.m. to 6:30. saying his family's foreign influence pedalling to china and ukraine sold out to foreign actors seeking to gain access to joe biden and the united states government. top democratic on the oversight committee jamie raskin says bobulinski offers no testimony that indicates any criminal activity by president biden and offers no suggestion or evidence that president biden was involved in hunter's businesses. house republicans say they learned a lot. >> he talked about joe's involvement and numerous times he talked to joe biden. he mentioned joe biden thanked him for what he was doing with his brother and his son. >> when joe biden shows up at four seasons restaurant for lunch with eight chinese officials at cefc. joe biden comes in and gives a short presentation and leaves and three weeks later 3 million wired to accounts. >> they are selling the brand to foreign entities like china. >> brooke: bobulinski said joe biden is the big guy. >> carley: we know tha

the informant's allegations were similar to those made by tony bobulinski, a decorated naval officer, the fbi coincidentally has never followed up with. the informant even used the phrase "the big guy," before the laptop even went public. i guess his sources were pretty good. senator chuck grassley announced that two separate justice department field officers, in newark and pittsburgh, found no hits to known sources of russian disinformation. and right before hunter's deposition with house investigators, this arrest is made? giving democrats their fall guy and an excuse to call the entire impeachment russia disinformation? cia mouthpieces are all over msnbc today claiming that the 51 letter-signing intel guys were right. hunter's laptop was russian disinformation. >> those 51 former intelligence officials paid a steep price for signing that letter. the republicans said this was election interference, a bogus attempt to suppress a legitimate story. as it turns out, they were right. they've been proven correct, in the sense that we now know russian intelligence, at least according to th

the attorney is slamming house ranking oversight member jamie ranking and tony bobulinski and what what'stestifying or saying. the democrats are really fighting impeachment. he's not worthy of the defense. >> all the evidence shown and it's also corroborated and never really contr contradicted and sg the brand and it was the first. liz: joining us is joe concha. joe, good to have you on. we have the fifth and final installment of our misleading america series. media watch dog like politico worked through the years and, joe, what do you make of this and much of the criticism is about speaking definitively and reporting as fact, speculation and theories. people on camera, they make mistakes including at fox. but media watch dogs point out something else and preeved asking a sense that she can see the deeper forces behind the headlines and you can too as long as you watch your programs and much is reporting opinion as fact. speculation as fact. what do you think? >> yes, gossip as gospel and add to that. rachel is the most dishonest anchor on tv and that's really saying something. for three

only got half the money back and the next week, another one of hunter's old business associates tony bobulinskis going to share his story with lawmakers about the big guy. here with the latest house oversight committee chairman gas -- james comer is with us. let me ask you about this case. you have release the transcript of this woman. her name is carol fox. the trustee and now bankrupt healthcare company. and she said she cannot determine what role james biden played or identify any paperwork backing up any loans made to him from a company struggling in 2018. she is the trustee of the bankruptcy estate and she is now sued joe's brother james and sued him in 2022 because he did not repay the 600,000 in loans and she can identify the services that were allegedly provided and she found no documentary evidence for consulting and marketing at all. what is going on here? that sounds like being paid for doing nothing. >> applicable, we have been calling it influence peddling. and this is a perfect example. jill biden found out about the company that was a distressed healthcare company that was on the

one headline reads the justice department can't ignore tony bobulinski and the "wall street journal" editorial writing bobulinski points to stacks of evidence that joe biden showed up in meetings, shook hand, participated in phone calls, including claims he was on at least 20 hunter business calls. joe biden was calling to demonstrate the biden brand to whoever was in that meeting. whether it was the ukrainians, romanians, russians, columbian, chinese, whatever it was. that's all he had to do, mr. bobulinski. just him being on the phone is evidence of involvement and enabling the transaction. do you agree? >> i do. i think what you are trying to make in that case is a circumstantial case. he is the overwatch except the smoking gun where he is specifically negotiating a deal. he has been around the business long enough, he knows that his presence may be enough in order to create those deals. that's a tough case to make if you are prosecuting it in a federal court or even if you are prosecuting it on congressional hill. ultimately it is a strong political point to make. >> sandra: calls

is here with house ways and means entered means jason smith, we learned what they learned from tony bobulinski what they're expecting from the bidens coming up hunter biden is expected to testify next week, joining to the conversation on boarding log bullseye ingenuity fund manager the steamboat institute sarah bedford and "fox & friends" cohost todd piro, "mornings with maria" is live right now. ♪. maria: is time for the hot topic of hour former president trump addressing his rivals at townhall last night here's what the 45th president said about president biden in nikki haley, watch this. >> she is not working she's down by 30 or 35 pointed everybody knows her, you're not supposed allusion homestay it should not happen and she's losing it. all challenge right now you can do anybody you want i'll take anybody who from cnn. i'll take anybody because i think you have an obligation in this case to debate and i don't think she's going to debate i don't think so i don't think she knows how to get out actually i really don't she did terribly in new hampshire. >> she is a lot of money behind her. ma

we've heard from tony bobulinski.all together and what does this mean and where is this committee headed next? >> listen, it is so clear that joe biden lied his way into the white house. he told us all these stories and none of them have been true. he said i knew nothing about my son's business deals or burisma. you met with one of the executives at the dinner at caÉe milano. he met with six of the major foreign business associates that accounted for most of the money that hunter biden's company got during that period when joe biden was vice president after he left office. two were chinese officials. jonathan milley and the guy that ran cfc energy. joe biden meets with them in february 2017 and a couple weeks later $3 million is produced to hunter biden businesses from that chinese communist company. why is that significant? when you look at this there is a phenomenon in business and politics called the rainmaker. they don't need to know all the details about what is going on in the business. he just needs to show up

maria: i want to get to the testimony of tony bobulinski. first, let's get to breaking news that you have. i know that you were sending out subpoenas this morning. tell me who you're subpoenaing and why. >> we're subpoenaing several credit card companies you through the interviews and depositions we've conducted thus far. we've learned that there were several credit cards that were used by various members of the biden family. we believe for personal expenses and we believe these credit cards were being paid by cefc or through cefc funded affiliates so this is something obviously we need to investigate and it's something that today we finally took the steps to issue the subpoenas. maria: are you saying that the schemes involve using credit cards that they were spending money and china was paying for the bills? is that one way that they were being paid? >> well, we know that there was a pretty extensive money laundering school. laundering scheme. they used a complex series of transactions through what i consider a shell company. a shell compan

. >> trace: we move on now to the bidens in the tony bobulinski mess. when this fell apart, we said the case is over. guy benson writes, even if you fully discard all of alexander smirnov's claims, the bank records show huge payments filling into multiple accounts from overseas sources via numerous shell corporations. so does the consistent and unchanged testimony of various business associates including devon archer and especially tony bobulinski. but, tom fenton, if you don't have a written check from xi jinping to joe biden, there is no crime here. >> well, it is circumstantial evidence, and also direct evidence. when you have witnesses testify who said he was involved in the business, and i also see them take steps to cover up that involvement, that's pretty powerful testimony. he's a veteran, an honest guy, and they try to destroy his credibility. maybe give the justice department a few more weeks and they will figure out a reason to arrest him, too. >> trace: if you don't have a smoking gun, they are not going to believe you. they are going to spi

we need to hear from tony bobulinski. this is not joe biden's personal life. he decided to run for president after his family, his brother, son, himself were making millions of dollars profiting from these business dealings. we know joe biden has very little energy but we also know that hunter biden had very little energy experience. how did he land on the board of burisma energy to begin with? this is important. it's important for another reason. we see now in the news all this stuff about the 26 trump allies that were targeted in these -- by this ridiculous russia collusion that cost the country $32 million in taxpayer money and so much angst. people were so hepped up on that we spent the money on something that didn't exist that turned an election. people need to know what joe biden and the family promised in return for all this money now that he is president. >> dana: while we have you, can we get your take on the loss for the republicans last night in that new york three special election? would pilip be a good candidate to run again since it whats to happ

the democrats, again, keep insisting that tony bobulinski is lying. categorically false to assert that mr. bobulinski failed to provide any evidence at all that biden was involved in family business dealings. bobulinski's testimony and motivations for coming forward will soon be available for all to see. called it a false characterization. has no place in the debate. they sound pretty confident that bobulinski will be debunked or his motivations exposed. >> first of all, there's a lot of receipts showing a lot of different lines pointing back to the biden family. texts, bank accounts, millions of dollars flowing to biden family members. and cnn, i think, it was last night or this morning said these are all uncorroborated. there's a lot of evidence building up that it's impossible to ignore what the biden family was doing for years and years. towards the end of joe biden actually being vice president, and then obviously in those years intervening, you know, before it became president again, the thing that's amazing to me -- >> laura: what did he get. >

tony bobulinski insists joe biden was involved in his son's business ventures. president denies it. also tonight, fallout from the news in fbi informant who is key to the investigation is under federal indictment. correspondent david spunt is at the justice department tonight. >> tony, what's your message. >> new details from a marathon interview with former hunter biden business associate tony bobulinski who told house impeachment investigators that joe biden was more than a participant in and a beneficiary of his family's business. he was an enablers despite being buffered by a complex scheme to maintain plausible didn't. he told investigators he personally met joe biden twice in 2017 and discussed business. despite biden family denials. the transcript release comes just one day after authorities arrested and charged a former fbi informant alexander smirnoff with lying about allegations that both joe and hunter biden each accepted $5 million in bribes from ukrainian associates. top republicans cited the claims for months. >> a highly credible fbi source allege

hunter biden's former business partner tony bobulinsky arrived on capitalist hill for a closed interrogationted by the house of representatives ponazioru committee. we were able to obtain copies of his commencement speech in which he says that the name joe biden was a brand that the biden family traded. the family sold this brand to foreign individuals who were interested in buying influence. he claims that joe biden not only profited from his family's business affairs, but that it was thanks to him that the business operated at all. quote: the biden family business actually belonged to joe, period. he referred to emails like this one, in which the distribution of capital in the transaction was indicated, which, as the participants say, never happened. an operation to improve our positions in this direction is the massive use of fpv drones by our troops, this has never happened before where kamikaze drones could be used to isolate an area, but here is an area, well, not an offensive, but an advance, and today even the enemy notes that we with kamikaze drones we practically destroy the positi

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he gave name dates tony bobulinski gave names dates, times, and places. tony bobulinski were pretty the question was about to go ahead, sir. go ahead. >> go ahead. no, i just want to say that he gave very damning testimony and all you all want to focus on is one little grain of sand in a huge beach that has absolutely nothing to do with the final outcome. the truth is $20 million flowed through this family. that's one shape, form, or fashion or another. they had no, sir. it is not. they had $20 that flowed through it went through shell corporations that went through alternate bank. accounts now why would you have these 20 bank account said? but up if you weren't trying to, why would banks literally send memos app that say they have no product? we have to be careful of this. we need to get shab this. why would they? send those out? why would banks do that? you're focusing on one little thing and you're not looking at everything else sir. >> i honor. the idea that there are questions about out whether it is ethical and appropriate for the family members of

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. >> brian: one of the big stories is tony bobulinski, hero of the hunter biden investigation who hase forward with impeccable career and called out bidens and got behind closed doors in front of house leadership for hours and he stood tall and told the truth and said joe biden was more than participant and beneficiary, he was an enabler. he is the big guy. he produced the text messages. i don't know what happened behind closed doors, what can you tell us? >> that is why we're doing this impeachment inquiry, having somebody like bobulinski, who was business partners with hunter biden and watched the flow of the money. big guy term was coined by bobulinski, he knew joe biden was getting a cut of the money from chinese and ukraine companies. it is important to make sure facts are locked down tight and he is helping us. >> brian: yep, he met with the people and met with joe biden and knows he is involved and hopefully the truth will come out, he risked a lot comeings forward. hope you are okay, great to see your smiling face this morning. >> great to be with you and be back. >> brian: st