overwhelming evidence of his guilt makes it even more puzzling as to why people like tony blair and tony brownthe actions they did? >> i have no reason to believe, he was making money and over fist, but he did have very close ties to someone named sir mark allen who when i met him was busy trying to get libya to renounce weapons of mass destruction which moammar khadafy did. he quit the group, britain's equivalent and he went to work with bp. he had many contacts with the government about his release as a senior executive in bp. he was never testifying before an american hearing but are wrvl on this issue but questions still surround his role, as well. it's a very sad chapter. >> gregg: judith miller who covered it all. thanks very much. >> heather: judy will be back a little later today. >>> the atlantic hurricane season off to an early start. hurricane season doesn't officially begin until june 1st but we already have a named storm, tropical storm alberta is expected to remain offshore but they are issued a tropical storm watch for alber for high winds and heavy surf. >> gregg: the drops to

tony brown, vice president in charge of purchasing said he would contact all the really supplies and asked them to check the components. now we are getting summer, mulally thought. lally would later call this meeting a defining moment in forged turner. he had always believed he saved the ford motor company, now he knew he would. all he needed was a plan. and as many people know, he put his plan together on little card and it was really simple. it was aggressively restructure the company to profitably, to operate profitably at the current demands. accelerate the deployment of new cars and trucks people actually want. finance the plan and work together as a teen. and the rest of the book pretty much tells the story of how they did that and how they were able to use that to get through this recent crisis without taking a taxpayer bailout, without going and asking washington to fix their problems for them, doing it themselves the old-fashioned way. and that's "american icon." so -- [applause] >> thank you. with that i'll take any questions anybody might have. >> with fourth the oems are

she became friends with tony blair, gordon brown, and david cameron. david cameron goes to her wedding and she marries a friend of david cameron. as you mentioned, the whole issue boils down to judgment really and was it sensible of the prime minister to get so close to her given that she was presiding over news international at a stage when all these allegations about phone hacking have been swirling around really for years. >> naomi, once that inquiry begins and rebekah brooks is having her say, we'll have more from you as well. many thanks. some other stories now -- the u.k. government says it will neither confirm nor deny claims that the undercover agency foiled an al qaeda plot to blow up a plane with an underwear bomb held a british passport. the operative is reported to have become radicalized before then deciding to work against the militants in yes, ma'am be. he handed over the intended bomb to the c.i.a. search found at least 10 bodies near the wreckage of a russian airliner, which crashed during a demonstration flight. 45 people on board the

>> i think that, um, you're talking about the hostilities between gordon brown and tony blair? >> yes. you were talking about it in the first sentence of paragraph 61 of your statement. >> request right. and what was the question, sorry, mr. jay? >> were you on mr. blair's side, not mr. brown's side? weren't you? >> i, what i said in the statement was that in the latter years -- and, again, there's been much better political commentary on this from, actually, many of the books you've asked me to read for this inquiry -- but in the latter years of tony blair's prime ministership, the hostilities between him and gordon brown got increasingly worse. and the worst of it did become a sort of tony blair camp and a gordon brown camp. and on particular issues, um, so, for example, the welfare reform bill which i think was, we first tried to get through in 2004, hostilities between gordon brown and tony blair were such that it didn't get through that time. we tried again, it was very important for some readers. so you'd have an insight how those hostilities were effect being the way to g

tony blair and new labor were parker lee masters of span. what steps did you take to counter act that? >> i think gordon brown was in master spend more than alistair and tony blair. i think the whole of new labor engaged in a new way with the media when they came to power. >> what steps did you take to counteract that? think in the journalistic story or a line from a politician and repeats it verbatim without checking it or analyzing it. it will of a journalist is not to just gather information but to analyze and process that information. >> but hubert on his side, he made that clear -- but you were on his side. you made that clear a few minutes ago? >> when you back a political party in the way some did in 1997, i was not there then but i was a close observer. i do not think you back them wholeheartedly. i think if you look at the "sun "from 1997 until when tony blair left, you would be quite confused if it was supporting the party particularly on europe. but other issues as well. >> you speak to it in your statement. you were on mr. blair's side, were you? >> you are talking about the hostilities between go

i think it is important to accept -- i think this goes for david cameron, gordon brown, tony blair -- that the amount of time and energy that they, not just the people who work for them, but they as prime ministers have to devote and dedicate to kind of dealing with what are ultimately media management issues. it's grown. it's grown and it's growing because of the way the media has developed. i think that's a problem too. >> then you continue, they only have power if politicians let them have power. >> yeah. >> by which of course you mean it is within the gift of politicians to prevent press having power. but that might of course have obvious ramifications for free press. it also presupposes politicians are not going to yield to the obvious influences and powers which might intrude on their decision-making. would you agree with that? >> well, i think a lot of this started under margaret thatcher. i think that newspapers were given a sense of power. the numbers that we see, the peerages and the knighthoods and the sense they were almost part of her team. i think it changed under john m

are there but i think it's important to accept and i think this goes for david cameron, gordon brown, tony blair. the amount of time and that they have to deal and delegate with the media management issue, it grown because of the way the media has developed. >> and you continue they only have power if politics let them have power, by which of course you mean it is within the gift of politicians to prevent the pressing is power. >> it presupposes they are not going to yield to the obvious influentials and powers that might intrude on their decision making. would you agree with that in. >> i think a lot of this is under margaret thatcher because i think that newspapers were given a sense of power, the numbers that received the knight hoods and the sense that they were almost part of her team. i think it changed under john major and i think when we were in power, i think we maybe did give the media too much of a sense of their own place within the political fervor and we should have changed it more. >> when you're talking about conferment of power, one of the virtues identified is the freedom

tony over to you. >>> thank you very much. chuck brown of course worked

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>> i think you're talking about the hostilities between court in brown and tony blair. >> you're attackingbout the first instance. >> what is the question? >> you are in mr. blair's side, not mr. brown's side, weren't you? >> what i said in the statement was that in the latter years, and again, it's been much political commentary this term, much of which you've asked me to read for this inquiry, but the latter years of tony blair's prime minister should, the hostilities between him and gordon brown has been increasingly worse. and so they are to become a sort of tony blair at camp and the court brown camp. and our particular issues, for example, the world reform bill i think was we first tried to get through in 2004, hostilities between gordon brown and tony blair were such that it didn't get through at that time. we tried again it's very important to have an insight of the hostilities for effect in the way to govern. so you would have an opinion on them. >> whose side were you on? >> neither. on the side of the readers. it wasn't an automatic given that alastair campbell or charlie willia

brown. >> i know my list is incomplete and particularly, i am not sure i am sure tony brown and tony lair had to release their formal and informal meetings and i'm pretty sure if they had, there will be missing downing street with mr. brown from that period in may right up until september. i don't know how many. >> the topic of conversation on the third of may, 2009, do you remember any specific events? did it cover political issues? >> it would have done in general. probably there were other people there at the lunch but again in may of 2009, as i say i'm not quite sure if my memory is correct but i'm pretty sure that the european constitution debate was shelby say at large as well as afghanistan at the time. so they may have been two issues. >> we know that on the ninth of september, 2009, mr. james murdoch told mr. cameron that the "sun" would support the conservative party in the next election and the headline was on the front page. i think it was on the 30th of september of 2009. when did you first know that shift would take place? >> to the conservative party? >> yes, i can give

then he said, david cameron took up by the time tony blair and gordon brown left off. ignoring what happened after may 2010, would you agree with mandelson's view, we simply chose to be coward? >> i agree with it to some extent. i mean, he said there were no -- there was no issue of principle or priority. i think there were issues of principle and priority which i referred to a moment ago. but i do accept that part of the thinking of the prime minister and some of his colleagues was that to take on the whole of the press at the time when most of the public thought we got a pretty good deal was politically not very sensible. >> it might have been difficult to have approached this on a cross-party basis at any time between 1997 and certainly 201. unless you were to identify a short window of opportunity which opened after the tragic death of princess diana. is that right? >> i think it would have been impossible to get a cross-party agreement on slide. >> what about that short window of opportunity? >> i'm not sure there really was one. i think that the -- i think intere

indeed, look for one moment at the number of meetings that tony blair and gordon brown had. blair, seven, brown 13, me, four. the idea that there would be some agreement that we would allow this merger to go through is simply not true. if that was the case, while i respect him deeply, what was i doing making him the business secretary responsible for this. the proprietors of news corp. have the night, under oath, at a limited inquiry. >> members must calmed down, there will be opportunity for questioning. >> news corp. has denied, under oath, any type of deal. let me make this last point. we would not have a newspaper with center-right to be used to change the newspaper of the lifetime. it was bad for our country and we ought to go. while i have said that the relationship between politicians and the media has been too close, i know that none of the people opposite have disclosed any of the meetings they had with news international or other newspaper executives while they were in office. while the country wants to hear about the challenges we face, how they play one-sided par

then he said, david cameron took up by the time tony blair and gordon brown left off. ignoring what happened after may 2010, would you agree with mandelson's view, we simply chose to be coward? >> i agree with it to some extent. i mean, he said there were no -- there was no issue of principle or priority. i think there were issues of principle and priority which i referred to a moment ago. but i do accept that part of the thinking of the prime minister and some of his colleagues was that to take on the whole of the press at the time when most of the public thought we got a pretty good deal was politically not very sensible. >> it might have been difficult to have approached this on a cross-party basis at any time between 1997 and certainly 201. unless you were to identify a short window of opportunity which opened after the tragic death of princess diana. is that right? >> i think it would have been impossible to get a cross-party agreement on slide. >> what about that short window of opportunity? >> i'm not sure there really was one. i think that the -- i think intere

then he said, david cameron took up by the time tony blair and gordon brown left off. ignoring what happened after may 2010, would you agree with mandelson's view, we simply chose to be coward? >> i agree with it to some extent. i mean, he said there were no -- there was no issue of principle or priority. i think there were issues of principle and priority which i referred to a moment ago. but i do accept that part of the thinking of the prime minister and some of his colleagues was that to take on the whole of the press at the time when most of the public thought we got a pretty good deal was politically not very sensible. >> it might have been difficult to have approached this on a cross-party basis at any time between 1997 and certainly 201. unless you were to identify a short window of opportunity which opened after the tragic death of princess diana. is that right? >> i think it would have been impossible to get a cross-party agreement on slide. >> what about that short window of opportunity? >> i'm not sure there really was one. i think that the -- i think intere

indeed, look for one moment the number of meetings that tony blair and gordon brown had with rupert when they were prime minister. blair, 7, brown, 13, me, 4. the idea--the idea, the idea that there was some agreement in return for their support we would allow this merger to go through is simply not true. i have to say if that was the case, one, i respect him deeply, what on earth what was i doing making the big secretary responsible for this? the proprietors of news corporation have-- >> order. members will calm down. there will be a good opportunity for questioning. let's hear the prime minister's statement. >> the proprietors of news corporation have denied under oath at the inquiry any type of deal, and i will do the same. let me make this last point, mr. speaker. unlike the party officers we were not trying to convince a center right proprietor of a center newspaper with center views to change the position of a lifetime. we were arguing a simple prone significance that the last government was irresponsible, exhaustible and bad for our country, and off he goes. what i said, mr. speak

. >> i did stay involved with tony blair and later with gordon brown. but for example, when people talk about blaming their advisers or we've talked about some of gordon's special advisers, i don't think it's enough for a politician to say well, they're freelance or they're doing their own thing. jonathan and i were both very, very senior in the system, but if we were dealing with difficult, sensitive issues we knew at all times we were representing the prime minister. and special advisers are very personal appointments by ministers or in our case the prime minister. and that's why i think there was a lot of justified skepticism following the evidence of one of your recent witnesses. >> i've been asked by one core participant to ask you questions about the black rod incident in 2002. the death of the queen mother, which was of course in april of 2002. and provided you with a little clip, mr. campbell, of materials. can we just get the chronology right? there was a piece in the "mail" on sunday -- >> no, i think the "spectator" was the first piece. >> ri

he has not only held top cabinet positions under the labor governments of tony blair and gordon brown. he has also served as a member of the european commission. joseph joffrey joins us from hamburg. he is the editor of "the german weekly." elaine also joins us. she happens to be in new york, but she is the paris correspondent for the "new york times", a beat she has covered for more than a decade. and david frum rounds things out from d.c. he is a regular on the show and a former speechwriter for george w. bush. welcome all. elaine, let me start with you. you know francois hollande. you have interviewed him. is he a radical? is he a moderate? how does he strike you? >> francois hollande is mr. normal. he got elected president of france because he promised to be a normal candidate and a normal president. when i was traveling with him in 2007, he was so normal that not -- neither the conductor, nor anyone on the train even recognized him. he is disciplined. he ran the socialist party for over a decade, and he did not make enemies. he is likely to be much more concillatory and moderate

brown: all right. the new novel is "home". toniorrison, thanks for talk to us. >> my pleasure. >> woodruff: online, toni morrison reads an excerpt from her latest novel, "home." mall pox pipe near william fa fw ey, julian gordon lost, a polish underground officer during the haul cast, and a man who fought japanese american internment during world war ii. >> warner: again, the major developments of the day: the united states and other nations expelled syrian diplomats, expressing outrage over a weekend massacre in houla. northern italy was hit by a second earthquake in less than two weeks. at least 16 people were killed and 200 injured. and stocks rose on hopes that china might move to stimulate its economy. the dow industrials gained nearly 126 points. online, we look at some amazing architecture as part of our "coping with climate change" series. kwame holman explains. >> holman: sea levels continue to rise and architects are designing structures that float, including homes, movie theaters and animal habitats. find a slideshow of

brown. you passed that on to tony blair. is that true or not? >> he suggested that, sir? >> in the same way you're not telling me your sources i will not tell you mine. >> ok. we'll play this game all day. i think your source may be john prescott, and it's not true. >> the questioning turned to rebekah brooks' contacts with the current prime minister, david cameron and the meeting with the murdoch family in greece in 2008. >> whose idea was it that mr. david cameron meet with the murdoches in greece on this indication? >> i'm not sure -- on this o'indication? >> i'm not sure who came up with this idea. i think it was born out of the fact that mr. murdoch was there in the summer and it was organized through number 10. >> there must have been initiatives there within news international to make arrangements. did you know anything about those? >> i knew he was coming, but i think the arrangements were made through mr. murdoch's office and number 10. >> rebekah brooks has denied any knowledge of phone hacking, but that's currently the subject of a separate investigation. peter

but tony reds is a local and native. grew up loving chuck brownou actually -- he kind of inspired you to play go go. >> of course when you hear that music it just does something to you. my aunt's at home and my grandfather used to listen to the music and you wake up and you come home from school and you hear that music and next think you know you trying to grab her pots and pans and get out of the kitchen with my pots and pans. you trying to start your own band. you don't know what you're doing but you're trying the make go-go. >> reporter: you rap with them. tell me about the legacy and future of go-go here in d.c. because chuck brown was the epitome of go go. and so what happens now that he's moved on? >> well, what it does is it just opens the doors for young people to inspire them to do more like -- like polo. polo is you know, the he's the lead talker for tcb and he's going through a medical situation right now. and he changed go-go. he changed the sound of go-go to the bounce beat. so it's like -- polo took his regimen and just inspired him

indeed, look for one moment at the number of meetings that tony blair and gordon brown had with rupert murdoch when they were prime minister. tony blair 7, brown, 13 me, for. -- 13, me, 4. the idea that there was an agreement and we work allowing this merger to go through is not true. >> mr. speaker, the reason why it is essential for the prime minister to come to the house today is that the culture secretary is in clear breach of the ministerial -- and the prime minister stands by and does nothing. he asks why this matters. it matters because we need a government that stands up for families, not their rich and powerful. he is failing that test. host: let us go back to this story and how it has touched the royal family. >> follow this online at c- span.org. we go live to portsmouth, virginia. we are with mitt romney and congressman -- congresswoman teselle bachmann. -- michele bachmann. live coverage here on c-span. ♪ >> good morning. [applause] good morning. this is what victories looked -- this is what victory looks like. take a look around. we're all here together to have a welcome

photos of special needs kids eyes of love of sea brent of us permit the bracken on brown boys she says as the district but tonyclined an on-camera interview but did send this e-mail. we're proud of the fact we openly discuss race and its impact was student success the goes on to say elk grove has been sick students that all staff strive to know by name and face to close the achievement gap. that's nice out of the mouths of babes the pass because of racism of martin the 13 junior he helped us out but now i'm wondering in my mind are restarting it up again? did wait superintendent tony garcia says the those pictures are only accessible to the faculty members but the teachers' union says that is why they wanted those pictures and the names held in private binder's the same three executives said nell meaning that wishes of black and brown boys set up on the walls. livens as a rubber while. >>> is fun this storm the stage lawyers for the public to expect when happen next the suspects were trying to rob the golden treasure's shop on sam own ballot's boulevard that's the good news explains the owner and fought back.

brown and lots of memories. we're having fun here with free and tony reds. been talking about -- our memories of chuck brown. even if you're a local or you're a transplant like free and myself are. but taking a lot of phone calls from listeners and from fans. and surprisingly lot of young folks. >> 12 years old. a young man named malcolm just called and said when he and his dad are feeling down they get in the car and play chuck brown. that's just a beautiful story and brown is actually inside of ebony magazine this month on page 60 for music legends. this is just -- it's just crazy the timing but 12-year-olds. and -- this guy said his 4-year- old brother's knows. dancing on stage. really touch sod many people and i don't think it's just the music, his personality too. >> reporter: you interviewed him once and said he was a very humble person. >> i remember you. i remember him saying that. you're that girl in d.c.. when he said that i just was like yeah, yeah. >> reporter: oh my god chuck brown knows me. >> i felt you know honored and because go-go is such a

the photos of special needs kids so i asked them why the black and brown boys and she says asked the district but superintendent tony garcia declined on-camera interview but did send this e- mail. we are proud lightly openly discuss race and its impact on students success he goes on sale growth as specific focal students felt staffs tried to know by name and face to close the achievement gap. but tonight to out of the mouths of babes the past because of poor racism of the mind of the king jr. he helped us out to put down i'm wondering in my mind's eye restarting to it started up again. those pictures from posted and teacher only areas. but the teachers' union boss telling me that they ask for the names and the pictures to be held today by very excited by their inside every school the they said 3 executives told them know. but the is a stay at the end? >>> so they're looking to close the achievement gap had a run in members scissors and a picture i.d.? if they have the have not provided this number is with us for the percentage of african- american students and the percentage of latinas students the superintendent sa

. >> i did stay involved with tony blair and later with gordon brown. but for example, when people talk about blaming their advisers or we've talked about some of gordon's special advisers, i don't think it's enough for a politician to say well, they're freelance or they're doing their own thing. jonathan and i were both very, very senior in the system, but if we were dealing with difficult, sensitive issues we knew at all times we were representing the prime minister. and special advisers are very personal appointments by ministers or in our case the prime minister. and that's why i think there was a lot of justified skepticism following the evidence of one of your recent witnesses. >> i've been asked by one core participant to ask you questions about the black rod incident in 2002. the death of the queen mother, which was of course in april of 2002. and provided you with a little clip, mr. campbell, of materials. can we just get the chronology right? there was a piece in the "mail" on sunday -- >> no, i think the "spectator" was the first piece. >> ri

with current prime minister david cameron and her relationship with former prime ministers tony blair and gordon brownaway from getting the stadium that they have wanting for years. the plan cleared final approval in the minnesota state senate yesterday setting the wheels in motion for a new billion-dollar stadium. the public is on the hook for $348 million of that price tag and the plan is now headed to the governor's desk. >> that's a lot of moolah. >>> can't a guy just get a ride on a unicycle naked anymore? greatest traffic stop of all-sometime in tall all-ti all-time. the man is accused of indecent ex-poreeur after he was distracting drivers and creating a hazard. at least he had a good reason, they say. >> he said he liked the way it felt. really don't know what he meant by that but that's what he said. >> police say his clothes were found at the base of the bridge. >> i just can't speak to how that feels. sorry. it seems to me it wouldn't feel that good but i don't ride a unicycle. >> i think he meant the air, not actually sitting on the unicycle. >> i hope he didn't mean that. >>> we're workin

operates, the current mp and chancellors, including tony blair and gordon brown and former chancellor is one -- might want to reveal their taiex and e-mails to company executives. these people crowded our country. they brought shane -- shame on our police force. they lied and cheated, blackmailed and boley. we should be ashamed to think how we cower before them for so long. to stop requires more than to agonistic retribution. those really responsible are held to account. the rich and powerful are as low in the face of the law is the most humble and week. in the words of bob dylan, the ladder of law has no top and bottom. everyone in the world knows who is responsible for the wrongdoing at news corp., rupert murdoch. more than any individual alive, he is to blame. the deeds are his. he pay the piper and he called the tune. it is his company, his culture, his people, his business, his failures, his lies, his crimes, the price of profits and his power. >> thank you. it is fair to say -- that was not the unanimous of view of the committee. >> coming back to the report, every -- the chairm

indeed, look for one moment at the number of meetings that tony blair and gordon brown had with rupert murdoch when they were prime minister! blair seven, brown 13, me four! the idea, four! the idea that there was some agreement that in return for their support we would somehow allow this merger to go through is simply not true. >> mr. speaker, the reason why it was essential for the prime minister to come to the house today is that the culture secretary is in clear breach of the code. the prime minister stands by and does nothing. he asks why this matters. because we immediate people that will stand up for the families, not the rich and powerful. host: let's go back to this story and how it has touched the royal family, british government, party leaders, business leaders and one of the wealthiest individuals in europe, rupert murdoch. guest: exactly. what started as a tabloid story has now exposed really the closeness of the top of government with rupert murdoch and his entourage really. and we've heard extraordinary stories of how david cameron, the prime minister, rode horses with r

tony over to you. >>> thank you very much. chuck brown of course worked with a number of artists many many, including chianti who played on one of his most recent albums, thanks for coming in good to have you here. >> yes. >> sorry about the circumstances. you had the opportunity to work with him on one of his final releases as it turns out. tell me what it was like working with chuck. >> working with chuck it was really intense but laid back at the same time, very professional when he comes into the studio. he is about his work and everything with him was in process. he was constantly teaching, even when he wasn't teaching he was teaching. >> right. >> so it was really cool just being in studio with him. just having conservations and you know, just do regular things talk to him you know from a man stand point. >> we found an article in a music magazine, an interview with you in 2010 you were asked who do you admire in the music industry, that drives you to grow and be better your answer was chuck brown. and you talked about one of the in