says's tony crescenzi there are three numbers that make the case for the fed to raise rates in decemberonly four members favor delaying until 2016, and zero, the number -- greatheight backers height backers after a relatively weak jobs report. all of that means we will see a rate hike in december. tony joins us from pimco headquarters. betty, good to see you. see you.od to give me the odds of a rate hike in december. tony: probably slightly higher than the market is projecting. probably higher than markets are saying now. in essence, it's a bet on what .ayroll data one of the major things that has game of 42,000. felt like i was winning a game of clue in looking at this. it indicated that the range that they want that would satisfy them is pretty low. the key is that labor force growth, the amount of new americans that enter the labor force in each month looking for a job has increased by 70,000 persons per month the last three years. the fed is saying job wrote is 150, that's 80,000 more than new entrance, so that's good enough to guess at this stage of expansion, this is something we