we will be speaking to tony faddell tomorrow on the early edition of "bloomberg west" tomorrow. charter communications is making for time warner cable. they had a buying offer for $61 billion -- i said $61 billion. the ceo talked about using time warner cable to create a internet and tv provider. he has not received a serious proposal from time warner cable and will bring it to shareholders. it is great to be there with you in person. at what is going on here? why make a bid for a company that does not want it? >> it is getting the ball going really. decision,s made the time warner is not going to engage. let's take this to shareholders. let's not keep banging our heads against the wall with a company that does not want to anthrax. we will take this to shareholders and see what we can do -- but snarky banging our heads against the wall of the company that does not want to interact. we will take this to shareholders and see what we can do. >> what are shareholders going to say? >> that it is not enough. they almost certainly will not agree. from what we hear, time warner could co