one thing you will notice tony fauci did not say that and why?ause once again, he's implicated in it personally. the gain of function research that peter was bragging about in the video we showed you had in fact been banned explicitly by the u.s. government. there is a federal moratorium on the funding of exactly the type of gain of function experiments that went on in the lab, disastrous effects. why didn't the u.s. government hold its funding of the lab in wuhan? that's a central question and nicholas wade to his great credit looked into it and here's what he found. "someone wrote a loophole into the moratorium. the moratorium specifically barred funding of any gain of function research that increased the pathogenicity of the flu, mers, or sars viruses. but then a footnote on the document states an exception from the research pod may be attained if the head of the u.s. government agency determined that the research is urgently necessary to protect the national health or public security." who signed off on this? tony fauci, possibly along with f

tony fauci. it's hard to believe but it's true, the piece lays it out. many of the experiments fell under the direction of a chinese researcher emma known as the bad lady, china's leading expert on bad born viruses, her job was to engineer corona viruses so that they infect human beings and do so as easily as possible. this work, nicholas wade notes, doing gain of function experience designed to make

there are lots of other things i would make tony fauci the villain on first. >> tucker: but let me push you just for a second on this one specific question. we are in agreement on fauci with a a lot of bad decisions but this one specifically, the wade piece says the money came from his agency within nih, he signed off on it. using a loophole that allowed him to get around the federal ban on gain-of-function experiments, and that it went through a middleman to the institute of virology and was used specifically on experiments designed to make bad viruses is communicable to people. it seems like a pretty clear link to me, whether he had a lot of things going on at the time or not. >> looked, the chinese were definitely doing that, and equal health alliance and peter drazic have a lot of questions to answer, and i think you are right, i think fauci does have questions to answer about this but again, i want to point out the institute he ran had a multibillion-dollar budget, and he and a lot spent on aids research and ebola research and other research. when he says he was not entirely sure w

yet tony fauci who runs the whole thing did not know any of this? of course he knew. from the beginning that the virus may have come from that lab. many people have known that. but fauci lied about it for more than a year. here he is a may of 2020 and an interview with the willing dupes at "national geographic" telling you as one of the most eminent scientists there is really no chance that covid-19 was engineered by human hands. >> if you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and without there now, it is very, very strongly leaning that this could not have booted artificially delivered the way that mutations naturally evolve. a number of very qualified evolutionary biologists has said that everything about the stepwise evolution over timeia strongly indicates that evolved in nature and then jumped species. >> tucker: a number of very qualified evolutionary biologists, but you don't even know what that is. really a number, so where are those scientists today? is there for example a single working virologist in the world who would come on the show right now and dis

we are speaking of tony fauci. the experiments at the wuhan laboratory that the u.s.

>> we deserve answers and tony fauci needs to give us answers, he has been wrong about a lot, masks, schools, now he's wrong about summer camps for kids and he's also wrong today to say directly or indirectly funded this kind of research, the report you mentioned by nicholas wade i recommend to all your audience to read it, anthony fauci and his agency need to provide answers to the american people what role they may have played in funding research in these laboratories, perhaps it wasn't directly what resulted in this worldwide pandemic, but why in the first place american tax dollars be going to a chinese communist lab that was conducting the world's most dangerous research in a laboratory that we know, that we knew 3 or 4 years ago had very low sloppy safety practices? it was extremely reckless, tony fauci doesn't seem to know much about constitutional self-government. he was disrespectful to the united states senate and appears to have disregarded the direction of the obama white house 5 or 6 years ago. laura: thank you so much, doctor fauci, not the only official to discredit hi

. >> tucker: so we reported last week that tony fauci signed off on funding for research that apparentlyated the coronavirus in a lab in china, he was confronted by that and denied it. instead, he just delivered a speech at emory university identifying the real culprit behind the pandemic, of course, it's you. we will tell you how you because this pandemic with candace owens. brave the hunt... on a new species of coaster. jurassic world velocicoaster. the apex predator of coasters. only at universal orlando resort. (velociraptor screech) the hunt is on... beginning june 10th. >> tucker: we learned last week and a remarkable and very tightly reported piece by nicholas wade who for 30 years was the top science correspondent of "the new york times" that tony fauci himself signed off on funding u.s. tax dollars for the wuhan institute of virology to do the research that caused the corona pandemic, that created covid-19 which escaped from that lab and he definitely signed off on the funding for that research but he hasn't apologized for that or take any responsibility for a period of accordin

>> yeah, you know, attacking tony fauci is sort of like firing your oncologist when they tell you youow, tony fauci has been, you know, working to put this fire out for the last, you know, 15 months. and the folks on the far right have basically taken his actions as an affront against their freedoms. you know, rand paul has felt that the coronavirus somehow has impeded his libertarian principles. he's just a buffoon and a sideshow, and tony fauci should just flick him off his shoulder like a dead cicada. >> speaking of which, similar, politicizing, fox and particularly tucker carlson have been spreading misinformation and conspiracies about the vaccine. the head of fox, rupert murdoch, has been vaccinated. "fox & friends" anchors say they have been vaccinated. the company's had work from home and mask rules in place. so what's with the lies and the conspiracies on the air? >> now, that's much more dangerous. tucker carlson has a huge audience every night, and he's been, quote, asking questions. just asking questions. he never has experts that can answer his questions, so he asks quest

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earlier this month, the heads of the fda and cdc as well as tony fauci tony fauci admitted about halfployees have decided not to get vaccinated. >> what percentage of the employees in your institute, your center, or your agency of your employees has been vaccinated? >> i'm not 100% sure, but i think it's probably more than half, probably around 60%. >> i can't tell you the exact number, but probably in the same range, some people vaccinated at our facility and others outside of the facility. >> we are encouraging our employees to get vaccinated doing town halls and education seminars, our staff has the option to report their vaccination status but the federal government is not requiring it so we don't know. >> tucker: one of the most remarkable tapes of the past year, so is people who work full-time at the cdc and nih approximately half of them have refused to take the vaccine, why? that would be a good follow-up question forcing kids to get vaccinated, many can't return telling you to give the vaccine to small children too. >> with the vaccine 100% effective for children in a clinica

and tony fauci it to give us answers. he has been wrong about masks and schools.g today to say that the nih did not fund this kind of research. it was mentioned by nicholas wade. tony fauci and the -- and his agency need answers to the american people about what role they may have played funding research is laboratories. perhaps it was not directly into what ultimately resulted in this worldwide pandemic. but why in the first place what american tax dollars be going to a chinese communist lab that was conducting some of the world's most dangerous kind of research in a laboratory that we know and that we knew three, four years ago had slow, sloppy safety practices. fauci does not seem to note much about constitutional self-government. he was disrespectful to the united states senate today and he appears to have disregarded the direction of the obama white house as well. >> laura: senator, great to see you. and dr. fauci is not the only top health officials to discredit himself. the cdc director, rachel polansky revealed to be completely clueless on basic covid scie

look, we have just learned in the last few weeks that tony fauci and his agency was indirectly fundingesearch in these laboratories to make coronavirus more contagious. dr. fauci needs to answer those questions. more importantly, we need to ask why are american tax dollars going to chinese laboratories? and our ally friends around the world need to ask the same thing. we need to use that leverage and other points of leverage we have in our trading relationship, in our economic relationship with china to demand that they finally provide transparency to the world. >> lawrence: tony fauci refuses to answer questions correctly. he spins, spins, spins. rand paul asked him was there funding going on? he started to split hairs. and that shows you where he stands on this. quite frankly he shouldn't have a job. senator, i hope you guys continue to hold him accountable. thank you. >> thank you, lawrence. >> lawrence: now, this what happens when a virtue signaling over action. take a look at what went down in minneapolis as a reporter was covering the anniversary of george floyd's death. [gunfire

reckless, ghoulish, they were paid for in part by american taxpayers from grants that tony fauci signed on. they are admitting it. even politifact retracted its claim.ul she should sue them. they should be ashamed. facebook interestingly has not reassessed. apparently facebook does far too much business in china to offend the chinese military. as of tonight, our interview is still missing from facebook. but very much still here. she left her home in china, cannot return, cannot speak to her family. she instead moved to the united states, a country she imagined was free. we thought it would be worth talking to her tonight. independent coronavirus expert and happy to have her. thanks so much for coming on. so if anyone has been vindicated, proven right, it is you. how do you feel watching the media admit that you are not crazy? >> hi, tucker. thanks for having me again. i want to appreciate your great effort in telling the truth especially when we are taking attacks from the chinese, and his party. more and more people realize that this virus is not from nature. at the result, that makes

in 2014, tony fauci and ia grant called understanding the risk of bat coronaviruses and that was overseener who told the world in high volume there is no chance this virus escaped the lab and was appointed by the world health organization to investigate covid and declare the wuhan lab blameless. what a scam? the grant from dr. fauci said it will fund testing coronavirus using reverse genetics and: oh! receptor binding essays and virus infection experiments across different species and humanized mice. actually that's quite a broad range. run that by any scientist and they will tell you a lot fits under that description. but specifically, what did those virus infections experiments with bat coronaviruses consist of? we don't know. precisely? we have some idea. it seems like may be the results are all around us. the white house wants you to calm down. theyo want the intelligence community to answer these questions in the next few months. if you can't trust them, who can you trust? f you don't need an investigation. you can take their word for it. josh did not take their word for it. he just

. >> tony fauci may be a good scientist but doesn't seem to know much about constitutional self government was disrespectful to the united states senate and he appears to have disregarded the direction of the obama white house. >> reporter: the senate foreign relations committee will hold a hearing on the pandemic and president biden will deliver remarks on covid response and vaccines. >> pressure is mounting on president biden to allow a veteran group to hold its decades long memorial day tradition in the pentagon parking lot. >> confirming permit for the role to remember the motorcycle rally, but reversing its decision due to covid. florida congressman, urging the president to override the pentagon's decision. coming up in the next hour. things that don't understand. coming up, border crisis, fuel crisis in middle east crisis after four months, are things spiraling out of control? at the forefront of foreign policy under president bush, he weighs in next. jillian: san francisco schools are set to reopen only for one day. it is a short return to classrooms. do you have a life insurance po

fauci -- he dismissed it out of hand, call that outrageous to ask questions about it, now a new tony fauci, the hours ago he admitted he has no idea what kind of research was going on at the wuhan institute of virology but we should look into it. >> the new embrace of the wuhan lab leak. came after wall street journal reports claiming wuhan researchers were sick and hospitalized in 2019. >> 6 minutes after the hour homeland security secretary alejandra mayorkas says he wants to make changes to isolate the border crisis. >> griff jenkins joins us as the secretary of defense -- good morning. >> he is indeed. mayorkas faced a grilling on capitol hill over the administration's handling of the crisis at the border and weakening of ice enforcement, watch. >> the president could not have been clearer. is articulation of this administration's position which the border is closed. >> numbers to the different story, the latest unaccompanied report you see here, 18,000 kids in hhs care averaging 360 per day, in that video from the team always long showing how out of control the situation has become, i

. >> tucker: so tony fauci now we know signed off on taxpayer funding, bizarre and highly dangerous experimentsamazing story, a gruesome story, next. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: the university ever pittsburgh has been using >> tucker: at the university of pittsburgh has been using taxpayer funds to perform experiments on aborted children. we can't show the images from those experiments because they are horrible but we do know that some of the funding for the so-called medical research came from the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases. the pro-life activist helping to uncover this and many other stories, we are happy to have him with us tonight. explain that the story to us. >> i just want to acknowledge for your viewers that this is a really hard subject to talk about. this is probably one of the most disturbing studies that i've ever reported on. you can't show the images on error, you can watch him in the video that is posted at center for medical progress.org. at the university of pittsburgh they were doing a study where they were taking the scalps of 5-month-old aborted babies and craf

earlier this month, the heads of the fda and cdc as well as tony fauci admitted that about half of theirave decided not to get vaccinated. >> what percentage of the employees in your institute, your center, or your agency of your employees have been vaccinated? >> you know, i'm not 100% sure, senator, but i think it's probably a little bit more than nhalf, around 60%. >> i can't tell you the exact number but it's probably in the same arrangement some people vaccinated at our facility and others outside of the facility. >> tucker: >> we are encouraging our employees to get vaccinated. we have our staff action to report their vaccination status. but the federal government is not requiring it so we doo not know. >> tucker: one of the remarkable tapes of the past year. so people who work full-time in public health at the cdc, at the nih, approximately half of them have refused to take the vaccine. by the way, why?ci that it be a good follow-up question. no one asked it, why? at the same moment we are forcing kids to get vaccinated. many can't return. trying to give the vaccine to small child

bill gates and tony fauci propped up for all the wrong reasons and up next week document their fall frome and what we can learn from it. >> joining us now is bill gates who is now the cochair of the bill and melinda gates foundation which is >> bill gates, the co-chair of the bill and mitigates foundation focused on finding a vaccine for covid-19. >> let me ask about the pandemic. >> fighting disease from the world much of his life's work, bill gates. >> a lot of people talk about not wasting a crisis. laura: not only was bill wrong about covid but he has dark secrets as well. days ago the new york times dropped the devastating story long before divorce melinda gates voiced concern about her husband's relationship with jeffrey epstein and harassment claim against his money manager and had an affair with employees but bill gates isn't the only pandemic darlings to go down in shame. entered doctor fauci. in her opinion his credibility was shot the day he wouldn't stand up to the chinese over there slow go on the investigation into the origins of covid in february of 2020 on this show but c

experiments very dangerous experience that were paid for in part by american taxpayers from grants that tony fauciself signed off on. that is all true. they are admitting it now, even politifact has retracted its claim that she is a pants on fire liar and she should sue them and they should be ashamed. facebook does far too much business in china to within the chinese military so as of tonight, her interview was still missing from facebook but she is very much still here. she has left her home in china, cannot return and fears arrest were she to go home. thought they would be worth talking to her tonight. an independent coronavirus expert and happy to have her. thank you so much for coming on tonight. so i have to say i don't do victory laps in general but if anyone has been vindicated and proven right, it's you. how do you feel watching the media admit if they are not crazy? >> thanks for having me again and i appreciate your great effort in telling the truth especially when we have to face so many attacks from the parties and more and more people say this virus is not from nature. also a functio

it is all conjecture, it is all tony fauci, his way or the highway. there is no sign. should be on the state budget thousand wants kids to mask up and wear masks he should show us the evidence the kids -- shannon: we got to get your response to this newly released dhs bulletin the dropped friday afternoon saying violent extremists may seek to exploit the easing of covid 19 related restrictions to conduct attacks against a broader range of targets after previous public capacity limits reduced opportunities -- what are they saying? because we are getting some of her freedom back they had no right to take in the first place the terrorists are coming? >> here is what it is. they think when they are not wearing their masks they will be recognized now so that will be more aggressive because with the masks they can blend in to society. they are worried they will be recognized and they will be more vigilant because there will be more care. everything else, there's not a shred of truth to any of this self-medication, distancing, all the things that of them is there any evidence

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tony fauci said there needs to be a thorough investigation into whether covid-19 originated from a laban. last year fauci knocked down that lab theory and today dr. walensky was asked her thoughts on the origin of the virus. watch. >> what are the possibilities? >> certainly the possibility that most coronaviruses that we know of are of origin that have infected the population, sars, generally come from an animal origin. >> are there any other possibilities? >> lab-based origin is one possibility. >> that answer is key because just a few months ago media maligned that theory as baseless and political mostly because trump, pompeo and robert redfield all said the evidence was compelling and should be investigated. even the director general of the world health organization went against his own team and said china needs to provide answers, and breaking today, republicans in the house intel committee say there is significant circumstantial evidence that the virus came from a lab in wuhan including that in the fall of 2019, several lab workers got sick with covid-like symptoms. bottom line,

we are fully vaccinated, according to new guidelines that are being misinterpreted, according to tony faucierms of the u.s. distribution of vaccine overseas, how is that being received? some people are arguing the u.s. has not been aggressive enough and is allowing the likes of china to take the upper hand when it comes to international intervention here. ben: i think that is absolutely right. some have coined it vaccine diplomacy. there's an argument that the u.s. got a bit of a late start in terms of the global effort because in the u.s., there's been this push to put all of the vaccines that were produced domestically that the government had and its stockpiles to work in the united states. right now, the u.s. is really ramping up that effort, but there is a sense among some, and some have criticized the u.s. for not moving quickly to get vaccines to places like india and brazil. but the situation just south of the u.s. border in mexico is pretty dire, so there is a situation where the u.s. is starting to ramp that up. if we have 60% of people with one shot, maybe in the u.s. we have reac

it is so over the top, that even tony fauci seems a little bothered by it.onight. hey, trace. >> hey, tucker. for context, we should note kids or three more times likely to drown in the die of covid, and yet cdc summer camp guidance says 6 feet of distance, not share toys, books, or games, close contact sports avoided altogether, and kids and staff, even if they are vaccinated, should wear a mask at all times, except swimming, napping, or eating, although the cdc did save kids are struggling to breathe or unconscious, they can take off their mask. and the white house says it's all good. watch. >> there is no question what the cdc is trying to do is provide guidance to the american public, to parents, to families, that they can trust, that they know is reliable, based on medical experts, doctors, based on data, on how they can feel safe. >> except doctors are not on board. oy the editor in chief of the leading pediatrics journal, also an epidemiologist, called the guidelines unfairly draconian. an immunologist at columbia university calls them "senseless," an

tony fauci said he sees the "return to normal as mother's day" of next year. now health officials are backing off on that and here in california, trader joe's, costco and walmart dropped their mass mandates and counties have not so fast. you still have to wear a mask. the bottom line is it's confusing because local, state and federal leaders have gone out of their way to make it confusing. >> mike: trace gallagher, rock star. starting us off tonight. new york governor andrew cuomo expected to make more than $5 million of the book he wrote about leadership during the pandemic despite the ongoing investigations into how he managed nursing home fatalities at the height of the covid-19 outbreak. correspondent aishah hasnie is taking a look from new york city. good evening. >> mike, good evening. we knew past records were coming but to see for the first time the stunning amount of money the governor made off this pandemic has now renewed calls for his impeachment. >> what did we learn from covid? >> moments after his covid briefing, governor almost tax records went

. >> tony fauci may be a good scientist but doesn't seem to know about constitutional self-governmentee will hold a hearing on the pandemic and president biden will deliver remarks on covid response and vaccines. todd: marianne, thanks. jillian: harvard medical school, appreciate your time. good morning. you just heard the report filed by marianne rafferty talking about this new york times report claiming cdc estimations estimates the risk of coronavirus foundation is 10%, greatly exaggerated. what do you believe the risk is of transmission models? >> small. to be out walking, hiking, swimming, whatever, during a pandemic, on the left side. jillian: how is this miscalculating? >> don't know. i think it has been clear from the beginning, for all the viruses, outdoor transmission is very small. jillian: the cdc suggests wearing a mask outside in certain situations. with everything we know about this virus do we need to wear masks outside? >> i don't think we should. don't know why does suggested. there is no reason for. jillian: what is your take on that? >> no need -- if you have had a

and also because my very good friend, tony fauci, nonetheless, counted vaccinations but didn't count people that had already come through and had covid. so this so-called natural immunity process, when you add the two up, which is what makary said was so important including asymptomatics, you're there. you're at herd immunity. this is a combination of science and a combination of politics, but it's also you have to add the economic zone in it. you couldn't have sustained this longer. i think we went way too far with the shut downs. that too was largely a function of the big blue states until florida, texas and the sunbelt started to rebel and the rocky mountain states and now the economy is booming. we should have done this many months ago. look, as you know, former president trump would have done this, you know, mask-free at least several months ago. okay. i'm just saying process-wise, you have to take a look at the economics at the science, at the psychology and the schools of education and the women who had to stay home because the kids were in school. lots of factors. the cdc sho

it's absolutely true going back to the spring everyone from tony fauci on down was saying we'd be luckywere 50% effective. this has overshot expectations. it was incredible. we knew early on this is what it was going to take. we knew this would be an incredible story, an incredible challenge. succeed or fail, and to the degree they succeed it would be a great story to follow. >> now we have these vaccines so effective and saving so many lives. thank you so much to you both. we look forward to seeing it. >> thanks, jessica. >>> the all new cnn film "race for the vaccine" airs in just a few minutes at the top of the hour right here on cnn. >>> up next vanessa bryant gives an emotional speech as her husband, kobe bryant, is inducted into the basketball hall of fame. you'll hear what she had to say when we come back. ♪ the things, you say ♪ ♪ your purple prose just gives you away ♪ ♪ the things, you say ♪ ♪ you're unbelievable ♪ ♪ ♪ applebee's irresist-a-bowls are back. dig in for just $8.99. (burke) phone it in to farmers to switch and you could save an average of four hundred and sixty-se

when tony fauci, such a great communicator, comes out and said put the mask aside unless you're falling all over each other when outside, that means a lot. i'm here in new york city watching people walk around all of them wearing masks. i'm thinking, why are they doing this? these people are probably vaccinated. if you are vaccinated, you are protected to such a large degree that if you are outdoors you do not need to wear a mask unless, as dr. fauci put it, you are falling all over other people. poppy? >> should we consider this the definitive guidance here because, to be fair, there's been some back and forth on guidance like this regarding mask wearing and other steps post vaccination. is this the final word or are we going to get some clarification from the cdc later today to confuse people? >> all right. i'm going to give you a two-part answer. at this moment, this is the definitive guidance. because again, it really is pretty much what the cdc said on april 27th. they just didn't say it nearly as well as dr. fauci did. however, i always want to give a ps. one thing that we know fr

tony fauci insists unvaccinated children still need to wear masks.ten to this. >> yeah, the children do when they're out there playing with their friends and, you know, particularly in an indoor situation. they do. dagen: what? joining me now is dr. nicole saphier, fox news medical contributor, author of the new book, "panic attack." doctor, great to see you. >> thanks for having me. [laughter] dagen: what is he talking about? >> you know, this is another one of those moments where i have to say with dr. fauci, let's just agree to disagree here. you know, when it comes to mask wearing, if you look back to a year ago from now when we had tens of thousands of people being hospitalized every day and our daily deaths were exceeding 3,000 people, we didn't really know much about this virus. it made sense to declare that national state of emergency, it made sense at that time to do everything we could to lessen the spread including wearing masks. here we are about 14 months after the fact. cases, hospitalizations, deaths have precipitously fallen. the lev

but i think as tony fauci said, you know, people are going to have to make individual decisions and businessesl make individual decisions. >> grateful for your time and insights today, we'll continue the conversation and grateful for your time with us this hour, we'll see you back here this time tomorrow. ana cabrera picks up our coverage on a busy news day right now. ♪ >>> hello, and thanks for joining us, i'm ana cabrera in new york and we begin in elizabeth city, north carolina where district attorney andrew womble who says sheriff's deputies were justified in the shooting of andrew brown jr. last month. the officers involved won't be charged. he says deadly force was necessary and that brown ignored their commands. >> the deputies who fired the fatal shots perceived an actual apparent threat, evaluated in seconds, decided, and acted.

. >> tony fauci answers the questions. why wouldn't you, senator rubio? why don't you come on and answer why did you ignore president trump making light of the pandemic when all the science was against it? why did you ignore when president trump was saying that it was a hoax, it was just a bad flu? that it was too much testing that had people worried? where was your concern then? if you were so confident, why did you fail along with trump to get inspectors on the ground in china in the early days of this pandemic if it was such a real thing for you, so not to be ignored? we know the answer. because at first you were all about praising china, certainly trump was. here's his tweet. china has been working very hard to contain the coronavirus. the united states greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. it will all work out well. so what changed? only when trump's pandemic hoax, just a bad flu, too much testing is the problem bs failed and we were way behind on the fight against a deadly pandemic, they needed to distract. china a convenient target. n

>> is tony fauci right about the science? do we have any particular reason to think he is right?yeah, what reason would we have to listen to this know it all? oh, right. then who cares? the president knows why the numbers are up. >> the reason we have more cases is because we have more testing. we've done a great job. when you test, you have a case. when you test, you find something is wrong. if we didn't do any testing, we would have very few cases. >> right. the testing is out of control. >> why does that matter, with everyday americans still losing their lives? >> maybe that's a question you should ask china. >> why are you saying that to me specifically? >> i'm saying it to anybody who would ask a nasty question like that. >> that's not a nasty question -- >> please go ahead. >> speaking of nasty, keep your thoughts to yourselves. >> former president barack obama has described donald trump's absolute chaotic disaster. an - >> not according to the first lady of kentucky. >> i think president obama should have kept his mouth shut. i think it's a ltle bit classless, frankly, to

mike pompeo is set to respond moments from now heard senator rand paul squaring off against doctor tony faucivin newsom by the governor accused of buying

covid was created in a lab by tony fauci. those people are probably going to win. you have to make sure that you build a broad enough coalition in the general election of both '22 and '24. we can disagree about tax code. we can disagree about security issues. we can disagree about healthcare. but it's, you got to pick a side. you are on the pro-democracy side or the pro-autocracy side. and the healthiest thing would be when we won that debate, we can go back to fighting on healthcare and tax cuts. >> yeah. >> and the most important thing for a country, and you might even argue the world, quite frankly, is to get a healthy, sane, republican party, back in power. that's based on principles and truth. but we have to take advantage, politically, of even if it's 5 to 10%, people who are [ inaudible ] to say, at least for this moment, this is the only way we can keep them at bay. and -- and build that coalition. i don't think it's a permanent coalition but that's okay because this is an existential threat. and everybody -- >> yeah. >> joy, if -- if i can add to what davi

when tony fauci had that exchange with rand paul, i said on the air, there is no way for tony fauci tooney's fungible. there was no possibility that he could defend -- definitively say it didn't go to gain of function research and he's kind of backed away from that a little bit. i want to turn to new york city with crime on the rise. governor andy cuomo speaking out this week on the top problems facing new york city. listen to this. i want your reaction. >> of all the things we have to do, when we're talking new york city specifically, crime, crime, crime are the top three. people have to feel safe. public safety. otherwise, none of it works. dagen: well, that's a lot of hot air, isn't it? i mean, he championed the bail reform that puts violent individuals, even with the tweaks last year, which you have talked about extensively, people get arrested and they're right back out on the street and that's one of the major things contributing to the rise in crime here. violent crime. >> absolutely. and it amazes me that the governor can actually say that with a straight face. he signed that b

>> i hope tony fauci gives straight answers today for one. it is a matter of public record n.i.h. to make coronavirus more contagious and dangerous. they need to come clean with the american people and need to explain why they funded that research. apparently in violation of at least the spirit if not the letter of an obama white house directive. >> dana: dr. fauci has said in the past that the gain of function was not something that was authorized to do in that lab. does that matter? >> well, if that's the case they need to answer why their oversight of their grant is so sloppy. they gave hundreds of thousands of dollars indirectly to the wuhan labs. the chinese scientist who investigated these bat viruses thanked fauci's agency in her research. if they didn't know what the money was funding they need to tell us why there is such lacks oversight on their grant processes. >> dana: there was an article senator tom cotton pointed and pressed china for answers. the reason he wrote that is because if you look at all the past headlines from a year and a half ago or so tom cotton is pla

tony fauci it appeared in front of the senate this week and he did what could only be termed as deliberately mislead or play war games. said that perhaps he didn't directly fund them, he funded american organizations though that funneled 100,000 american dollars into these labs. furthermore it's a matter of well-established public record that these labs were conducting gain of function research on deadly pathogens. this may have happened in the violation by the order of the white house not to fund such research. it's time for the nih in general and dr. fauci in particular to come clean about exactly what kind of ties the government had between the labs and will plan. it may make the so-called experts in science and public health in our governments around the world a little bit more uncomfortable. >> sandra: senator i can't even tell you how big that news seems to me. the cdc is going to come out with a brand-new guidance today that would allow those who are vaccinated to ditch the masks indoors. this is something that you and your colleagues have been questioning about for some time, while s

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senator rand paul has done now is propagated this crazy myth that the nih funding and directly, tony fauci'sinvolved, was involved in gain of function research where people research viruss and try to understand if those viruses can be more potent in weaponized in some ways. fauci, that's absolutely never been a shred of evidence linking the two, but it's like one of those things, like "harry potter," like once you say the name, voldemort, the name that should never be spoken, i think that it -- and now that's dominating. and so there's richard burr, a senator who actually said and did the right thing, disagree with someone's policy point but said and did the right thing as a role model crowded out by somebody who i don't even know how he got his medical degree. >> yeah. i mean, the pandemic has made those questions front of mind. dr. kavita patel, thank you so much for spending some time with us today. it's always great to see you. tomorrow night, right here on msnbc, lawrence o'donnell is going to sit down with president joe biden for a town hall event on how to get every american vaccinate

yesterday morning tony fauci said we have to mask inside and outside and a complete turn around yesterday a massive messaging but we are in a good place right now. >> john: just a few minutes ago the white house briefing peter doocy asked jen psaki the press secretary about the timing of all of this. let's listen. >> did somebody in the biden administration update the guidance for political reasons? >> no. >> what was the reason or the big breakthrough to do this yesterday? >> and no dr. walensky did an extensive number of interviews. to answer exactly that question. but as we have talked about the cdc not just dr. walensky but the entire team of medical experts are constantly reviewing the data to ensure that they can provide accurate and up-to-date guidance. >> john: what was the big breakthrough that they could turn around and say this yesterday, do you know? >> i don't think there was any specific breakthrough. and i think you saw as i outlined over the last week how things have been really sort of mixed messaging, not even mixed messaging but doubling down on the past. i believe some