tony herbert and katherine pugh are still with me. tony, suggesting that new york is a more dangerous place, is it? >> i mean it's scary, i mean quite frankly. we've celebrated a number of years where there was just really no crime to a large degree, that you would have to be concerned about walking out at night. and all of a sudden this uptick and surge of guns going off and blaring at will. it does make for a scary time in our city. i sort of liken it to the process of there's been some communication loss with this administration. i just don't think they get it. the essence of working with community helps to afford an opportunity for us to be able to work together to stave off this kind of genocide, we call it, a modern day genocide, we've got one-year-olds and four-year-olds getting shot and it's ridiculous. and i have to stay with that. if we had responsible leadership, responsible electeds like senator pugh here in new york, be we would have a better way of communicating with someone who wants to work with the community and not ta

. >> tony herbert works as a community advocate in some of the community's toughest communities. >> do's out of touch. >> totally. his staff is out of touch. they have this mentality that we're work at it from the standpoint. >> much of the violence comes from gang on gang violence and from high-crime neighborhoods. people here in brooklyn neighbor say they have different opinions on policing techniques but they would like to see better integration of the police force in the community. >> when it comes to stop and frisk, it doesn't stop violence. you know what i'm saying? it doesn't suppress it. it doesn't make it go away because you have people and you ask them for i.d. it doesn't solve anything. if they had 20,000 police here, who would stop it. >> local residents look at opportunity as the main reason for the prevalence of gangs. >> is it a tough neighborhood because of lack of money coming all the way down to the people who need it? >> 330 more officers mr. spend the summer months when crime typically spikes the highest patrolling new york city seats. it is worth noting that the mu