he is tony higgins,... oh, i'm so sorry. forgive me. tony, iam he is tony higgins,... few technical issues. you can hear me? ., , ., , thanks me? i can hear you very well. thanks so much for— me? i can hear you very well. thanks so much for being _ me? i can hear you very well. thanks so much for being with _ me? i can hear you very well. thanks so much for being with us _ me? i can hear you very well. thanks so much for being with us this - so much for being with us this evening. from where you sit, what is the problem that is causing the shortage? is it simply a shortage people want to be drivers all shortage of test places were a combination of factors? by, combination of factors? combination, actually. there's been a driver shortage a number of years and in recent years we have at brexit, so 40,000 eu drivers go back to europe. also an ageing workforce, certain ageing demographic not being replaced by young people. the recent recovery of surge in demand and a general trend to home—working, which puts more pressure on the sector, and during lockdown we lost 30,000 t

i spoke to tony higgins an hour ago. recovery. i spoke to tony higgins an hourago. he is recovery.hat he told me. there has been a — and here's what he told me. there has been a driver _ and here's what he told me. there has been a driver shortage - and here's what he told me. there has been a driver shortage for- and here's what he told me. there has been a driver shortage for a i has been a driver shortage for a number of years. and in recent years with brexit about 40,000 new drivers went back to europe and we brought back an ageing workforce and asian demographic take not being replaced ljy demographic take not being replaced by young people and the reason recovery of search and demand is a general trend to home delivery and much more pressure on the sector. and during locked we lost 30,000 which is about 16, 17,000 drivers. and i understand from some of the interviews you have heard earlier in the day on the bbc news channel that the day on the bbc news channel that the majority of people in the numbers who actually passed the test the first time, it's not that great in the pr