one of his books, i think this book that she wrote with timothy snyder, there's a passage where tony judd how he studied history, the post-war history of france, and gives an example, with gedroyc, it was during this period that gedroyc was working in france, and gedroyc, gedroyc is now a huge figure for ukrainian-polish, let's say, relations, and someone asked ghidroyc if he ever had contact with, at all, acquaintance with jean-paul sartre, it is the same period, and the hydroyts answered: no, they will not understand anything, that is, it was super concentrated not... noticeable for such a mainstream of generally intellectual french work, although it happened precisely in paris, well, for me, this is also such an example for us ukrainians, nevertheless, do not lose this hope to be patient, and for me i would say that any honest russian intellectual should at least learn about this case, and the last question is where... is your red line in general, how would you define participation in joint events for yourself, not even on one platform, but in joint events, for example, at festivals wi