they don't know what, but i interviewed tony lilly who talked to dolphins, quantum physics people. >> you mean john seely? that often die? >> his wife. >> the thing that was weird about -- i did most of the business part, the thing that was weird about the things that i did was that most of the people wanted to keep quiet because they did not want to get made fun of. there were like, only if you don't tell my research friends, only if you don't make it public because i don't want to get made fun of. i'm a researcher, but you can't tell anybody. you can quote me, but don't tell my name or i'll be made fun of in my other field. i thought, that's not fair. if there is something you're researching, the national enquirer should have the joke, but i want the real thing. >> the question. >> the question is do you think that there should have journalism happen -- albright, are there any stories that you think deserve to be treated seriously? >> of course. absolutely. >> what are the? >> people have to experiences that are anomalous, they can't explain it to my very sixth year , trying the