and she said tony ornado was the one who told her that.g to see that in the transcript. >> absolutely. and that's -- you make exactly the right point. you've been covering this as closely as anyone. the -- effectively hearsay of cassidy hutchinson about what she had heard from tony ornado, that's going to be one of the things we're going to be looking at. in addition to that, that security posture before january 6th and what tony ornado knew about what the president's plans were for january 6th both ahead of time and realtime. >> it's not the incident itself, but the fact that the president was insistent about going to the capitol. thanks for jumping in at the last second getting this information out to us. we appreciate it. >>> as we reach the end of the holiday season and prepare to ring in the new year, health experts are warning a new covid subvariant and causing a vise in hospitalizations. according to the cdc, the omicron subvariant known as xbb now accounts for more than half of covid cases in the northeast, up from just 7% last mon

she specifically said not only did tony ornado say it but he recollected that to me in subsequent conversationsn criticized for this and there's been some denial but even as recently as september when she talked to the committee again after her public testimony she says, no. that conversation happened. he told me what trump's actions were. she has doubled down on that. >> that is so important and thinking also about how this is going to impact the special counsel and what the doj is doing because it wasn't as though they were waiting fon criminal referrals. but just thinking about the currency here and i'll end with you nick, the currency here is not really the referrals but the information. it is the transcript. they are the things that the doj would not have already been privy to if they hadn't had access to a witness for whatever reason, interviewed a witness or deposed or had a grand jury hearing. the currency here we're dealing with and trading with the doj at this point will be those substantive transcripts that compare and contrast and work with them. right? >> it all comes down to the e

. >> tony ornado was in this week. this investigation was very much on going. you know, it was thursday. he was in on tuesday. what is the sense of whether or not, you know, the committee came out and publicly accused the secret service. some in the secret service of lying. congressman kinsinger did it here. will the committee get to the bottom who have they believe lied to them? >> i'm not sure what will make the final report. but they have now reinterviewed everybody involved with that secret service matter about donald trump attempting to go to the capitol. they reinterviewed tony arnado. they interviewed other people in the motorcade in addition to cassidy hutchison. they have an understanding now where everybody heard what everybody said. they've been asked a second or third time. it is my understanding that some people's memories failed them. so that may be what there may be mention of that in the report and we'll certainly see that in the transcripts when they come out. who got amnesia at convenient times and who had detauld memory of events. robin voss