we're still in the uptrend tony pasquariello at goldman, the inherently friendly interplay between growth and the fed. you cut out all the noise, is that what you distill it down to like he did? >> yes, it's really that simple. earnings are going up. obviously at a slower pace the economy is expanding at a somewhat slower pace although still robust when you put those two things together, that type of environment is positive for equities and the better question is not, should the stock market be going up? why is the stock market going up the question is, how best to play that, what sector, asset class, et cetera >> you say earnings are going up but then you couch it a little bit with at a slower pace, which is fair, estimates have definitely come down, but multiples are not really expanding at a slower pace so you have the valuation of the market like 22 1/2 times, which is historically rich, but if you're telling me earnings are growth at a slower pace, the rubber meets the road somewhere between that, doesn't it >> the issue with the valuation argument, listen, clearly 20, 21, 22 times f