tony randal's character was not gay and oscar goldman was not gay. >> he was butch. you have to understand the dynamics. >> can you tell me what felix's profession was? >> felix, i don't know, but klugman was a sports reporter. he was the reason i wanted to get into journalism because it he didn't look like he bathed and he got paid for what he was doing. >> well you got half of that. >> here is the other point that his son got at, but in a software and then backpedaled. should you give special honors to somebody who o.d.-ed on heroin? >> if you are under 40 you probably don't even know who jack klugman was. >> terrible. >> but true. if you are trying to appeal to the younger viewer they hillary late to that more so than anybody else and that's why they discussed it. and jane lynch said, listen, this is a disease. maybe they were trying to enlighten the younger generation and it is what it is. >> bill, you don't have a television, but sometimes you and hobo carl will stand outside appliance stores and catch up on shows. is there anything you like? >> outside the best

i was serious when i said -- i lost to jack lightman, tony randall, michael j fox twice. and they are very good people. at one point, i stopped putting nominations so i can just sit at home and watch the emmys and say, i would've one. -- won. [laughter] i would have walked away, no question about it. let me take the funny and tweak it just a little bit because your comment makes me think of something and my staff around here knows this. some years ago, after winning a few awards for this show, i stopped submitting my name. i don't let the staff submit the show for anything. -- reason is, i have a thing it might be arrogant or hubris, but i have a thing about people judging what we do. i think we do the best show that we can do and once we have done that, that's it. if they like it, they do and if they don't, we will try to do better tomorrow. but there is something about waiting for the judgment of others when you know you have done your best work. i don't need them to tell me that what i am trying to do is to get to the humanity of the person i am talking to and if you j

randall joins us from washington and you have new informationer us. >> yes, tony. before we get to the investigation into the shooting, there's now an investigation into the response to the shooting. the u.s. capital police board will be looking into the circumstances surrounding the response of the capital miss to monday's incident. this after the bbc reports that the swat team of the u.s. capital police force was told to stand down and leave the scene. an unnamed source gave them that information, and the capital police board this afternoon, has released a statement saying there will be an independent inquiry into the response of the capital police force into monday's shootings here at the washington navy yard. into the shooting itself, there are a lot of questions being raised about the brushes with the law, the firearms of violations and the mental health of alexis when he was able to obtain a security clearance. defense secretary hagel is saying that there will be a full-blown investigation to look into the circumstances of security clearances. >> obviously, t

tony. >> thank you, randall. the opposition itself is agriculturemented into different factions. rebels are claiming control of the mainly christian village of malou, outside of damascus, creating their own versions of syria. >> al qaeda fighters pushing their way through new territory. they claim to have taken the historic town of malula where the ancient aramaic is still spoken. taking control in this mainly crifnght town northeast of damascus. most of the christians in syria have chosen to stay away from the conflict or ally themselves with president assad's regime. there are reports of new defections among assad supporters and of christians joining if rebel opposition. >> it shows the credible use of force by the united states and its allies is already having somewhat of an effect. already, that would add to some of the defections we're hearing about. >> defections is just one other aspect of a complicated situation in the country. this group says it's breaking away from another group called the islamic state of iraq and the levain. groups from the north cauucacus region, pre

randall, let me start with you. impressions so far of the hearing? >> well, certain, tony, much more pointed questioning today on the part of members of the house of foreign affairs committee than we heard yesterday in the senate. pointed questions, questions challenging the logic, what the effectiveness of a strike would be, questions of where are america's allies, who else is on board with this plan, and here we're just listening to joe wilson of south carolina even bringing in domestic issues of suggesting, alleging, raising the possibility that the president was some how using this crisis to divert attention from the affordable care act and some other domestic issues, from my perspective, a very odd com compilation of charges of this decision to use military force. it was congressman wilson who in a state of the union address called mr. obama a liar. >> yes, have you heard much of a challenge to the intelligence case being made by the secretary of state? >> i haven't heard much on that line of question. >> yes, i don't think they're questioning so much whether chemical

randall, what did the senate do today to move the resolution along? >> well, tony, what happens was the senate majority leader opened what he called a short seasosession. that starts the talk clicking. that allows the resolution passed by the senate foreign relations committee this past wednesday, it allows it to go n the calendar for monday when the senate returns, and then there is a motion to limit debate because there have been some threats especially from senator rand paul that he was going to filibuster. they would take steps to limit that debate, and bring it up for a vote possibly as soon as webs. however, just because it's being brought up for a vote does not mean it will pass. there will be amendments. some think it's strong. others don't think it's strong enough, and some senators don't think that we should be involved in military action. that's where we stand. >> how much are you getting of the hurdle does the obama administration face of winning congressional approval here? >> we've seen a transition of what appears to be pro-support on the part of bip

randall, secretary hagel has ordered this top-to-bottom review procedures and protocols. i'm wondering will anything change while the pentagon is reviewing its security policy? >> well, tony, we don't have a specific answer to that, but if we want to project from what the secretary of defense has said and other government officials have said we can certainly expect that every government agency will be automatically reviewing private contractors, and especially civilian employees who have military backgrounds in the days going forward even before they change the procedures. once the reports are in we expect there will be new procedures in place as well. >> randall pinkston in washington, d.c. thank you. >>> nine men and three women died in monday's shooting. they were parents, grandparents, sons and daughters, veterans, teachers. we have more on the people president obama called patriots. >> when he looked at her, he looked straight at her, clenched that jaw and just, boom. >> reporter: john weaver saw aaron alexis claim one of his first 12 victims. >> he killed her. she did not deserve to die a horrible death like they did. it was tragic. >> reporter: like weaver many can

randall pinkston joins us, there is a resolution that has reached the senate, but i wonder if it has the votes to pass both chambers? >> that is the question, tony, whether or not it will, indeed, get the ainvolve that the president is seeking in the senate chambers. the house of representatives was always a question mark, and even a bigger one today. senator harry read took steps to place the use of force on the calendar. that will start the clock ticking today that will clear the vote in the senate as early as next wednesday. however, expect amendments, except some attempts among others senator paul to filibuster, s so we'll have to wait to see what happens in the senate. and no word on when the vote will take place in the house. and house of representatives member from staten island in brooklyn who said he had been prepared to support the president earlier this week, but he believes the president has been dithering, taken too much time, and the president has reduced america's standing in the world. so he is voting against the resolution. we should point out a lot of these congressmen are facing re-election, and they're getting push back from