army lieutenant colonel tony schafer, former state department official christian widen. all right, guys, you've seen this explosive interview with the three men actually on the ground telling us what happened that night. what's your take? i'll go to you first, tony schafer. >> well, first off, my heart goes out to mrs. smith. i feel so terribly for her. >> all of us. >> oh, the bottom line is that delay of a half an hour could have made a huge difference both to save the life of mr. smith and ambassador stevens. and the other thing about this, judge, we know at the tactical level that you need to get in there immediately. you throw the enemy off his game plan. that gives you time to actually reassess how to get in there. judge, this is the bad news this. stand down order wasn't just there. as you point out and others have pointed out there, should have been air power there. someone had to issue a stand down order across the board. she's correct. someone's lying. because the moment this thing is reported up the chain of command, at least three separate d.o.d. command, spe