tony schwartz says he knows the key.which teaches people how to reach their full potential. don't we all want some of that? hello to you, tony schwartz. >> thank you. >> i'm confuse good one of your suggestions. you say the best way to get more done is to do less. how did does that work? >> it's a paradigm shift from thinking that spending more hours in a day is going to get you to the end you want to recognizing that it's actually how much energy you bring to the hours you work. so that if you are really energized when you're working, you're really working, when you're renewing and recoverying, something most people don't know these days, you're rebooting. >> how can we be more productive? >> by aligning with the body's rhythms. by moving rhythmically between spending and renewing energy, which is what the body is meant to do. and when you -- as i said, when you're working, you're 100% focused or at least you're finding opportunities during the day. and you're weather you're not, you're valuing -- and when you're not, y

tony schwartz, ceo of the energy project subscribes to that thinking and has just written about it inumber of times. he's also the author of "the way we're working isn't working." good to see you. >> good to see you. >> i think a lot of people would theoretically -- -- would great with you, but what's like your central point here? >> well, my central point is we need to make a paradigm shift. we have spend 200 years since the industrial revolution operating that more, bigger faster is better and time is the resource that accounts for whether or not you're effective. we need to shift that, because we've run out of time. now what we need to do is find ways to increase our energy. and in particularly to renew our energy, because lifetime energy unrenewed will run out. >> but isn't there a whole psychology at work that would have to be changed because people feel like they need to be in the office for long hours, into you that shows the boss how dedicated they are, and they feel like they need to be available, and the blackberry is never far away or whatever device it is that they have, a