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tony schwartz, you have a psychopath in chief. i reckon everybody read it. it delves into what you know about trump's behavior. does it make sense to you based on what you believe about his psychology? that he would want to try to shut down his absolute favorite medium where he communicates to his faithful followers every ten seconds? >> what makes sense to me, joy, i did this piece on medium and people want to see it. you just go on medium.com, it's right there on the home page, but what makes sense to me is that what trump wants to do always above all else is to dominate. he wants to be in control. what donned on me over the past several months after years of thinking about what trump's core motivation was, is that it's not actually to be loved and admired and praised, even though those are prima facie true. he has no conscience, so, he doesn't care if people are hurt or if people -- even in the case of the covid case, i'm going to say this very directly. he couldn't care less that hundreds of thousands of people are dying. i mean, that tens of thousands o

no greater authority than president trump one-time insider turned critic tony schwartz, made a very provocative allegation about this. and i want you to hear on this show on friday. take a listen. >> deaths don't matter to him. if it's a decision between saving himself and saving others,'9" is no contest. >> david, your view on that aspect of it? that is a critique regarding a belief about president trump's mind or heart, which may not be empirically provable, and it's also about the leadership style, it is observable that he has not done what other presidents have done with consoling, with mourning. >> yeah. we discussed this on this show before, you and i. it's pretty apparent that the president's strategy, and maybe it's the only strategy that's available after the mistakes of january and february, is to let this disease rip through the country and take the punch. and that's easier for him, because we know more in may about the disease than we did in january and february. one of the things we know it is very much not an equal opportunity killer. it takes casualties in places that president t