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tony schwartz was the other side of you. go on. >> i'm sorry.idn't know they were going to run that clip because i remember you were there on the stage. i thought this is going to trigger awful things in joy right now. just breathe and we're going to be okay. >> i'll breathe after you tell me who will win the election in 2020. what's happening is the polling averages, aisle going to look at the polling averages for the states you called, three of them. in 2016 trump won by .2 in michigan. .7 in pennsylvania. polling averages have biden ahead 7.6,.1, still close in pennsylvania. 6.2 wisconsin. do you forsee a different outcome in november? >> earlier today nicole wallace had governor cuomo on. she was just asking about september with her kids. like is there going to be school. he said, my krystal ball is only good for 30 days. i don't know. here is what i think i know. never take trump for granted. if anybody is sitting at home thinking oh, man, we've got this one in the bag. did you hear him today. he said he's done more for black people than ab