joining us now with more, congressman peter king, and lieutenant colonel tony shaffer, a cia trained intel operative and senior fellow at the london center for policy research. congressman king, does this look like terror to you? >> it is something that has to be strongly considered. i doubt it would be a missile. i don't believe isis or its affiliates have that type of weaponry. i don't think they could hit the plane at that altitude. as far as the fact if it was an explosion, certainly terrorism has to be considered. that's a hot bed for isis and islamic terrorists. to me, this has all the earmarks of something that has to be looked at as far as terrorism. it could be mechanical. considering the fact that russia has this direct conflict with islamic militants, i think it could well be certainly terrorism has to be considered and as the director said, there's no reason to rule that out. >> this is the worst aviation disaster in russian history. colonel, let me ask you whether you think the facts support a hit by surface-to-air missile or as some are speculating, a bomb on board this

tony shaffer, lt. colonel old friend joins us now with the implications for us.ded to see you this morning. >> thanks for having me. >> how do you respond to this. >> two things. first off, figure out how the french failed to do their job to keep the people safe. i don't know if they didn't go far enough to detect and defeat the charlie hebdo network or this was a new network. any way you cut it, we need to figure out)> rapidly, tucker, why this failed. what were the on or on or obser. this was sophisticated. this was a rolling attack. this had to be rehearsed. we had suicide bombers bombers h vests. a bomb maker had to be present to build those. they had to rehearse. this this was a military style attack. military aged men involved were probably jihadis went back to europe. they should have been observable and they weren't. secondly, take that lesson and figure out how to penetrate the network to. defeat a network you must penetrate it. that means old fashioned espionage. that means old fashioned special operations, grabbing people, interrogating them. i'm sorry

lieutenant-colonel tony shaffer from the army, thank you so much for your insights. really appreciate it. shed a lot of light for us we follow the situation from paris. >>> mass shootings and hostages taken and killings different venues tonight. tony aiello has been gathering information and has it from the newsroom. >> reporter: the death toll is at least 35 people. a flight night in the city of light disrupted by terror several attacks that happened more or less simultaneously. at a theater called the bataclan an unknown number of people were killed and dozens more were taken hostage. there was a concert there tonight. a southern california band called eagles of death metal. another 11 people were killed in an attack at a restaurant called [ indiscernible ] armed with rifles at the restaurant. also tonight, at the sta dee france, a soccer match between france and germany was under way when this happened. [ explosion ] >> reporter: you can hear the explosion rock the stadium. french president hollande was at the match. the stadium was evacuated. a series of coordina

tony shaffer, lt. colonel old friend joins us now with the implications for us. see you this morning. >> thanks for having me. >> how do you respond to this. >> two things. first off, figure out how the french failed to do their job to keep the people safe. i don't know if they didn't go far enough to detect and defeat the charlie hebdo network or this was a new network. any way you cut it, we need to figure out)> rapidly, tucker, why this failed. what were the on or on or obser. this was sophisticated. this was a rolling attack. this had to be rehearsed. we had suicide bombers bombers h vests. a bomb maker had to be present to build those. they had to rehearse. this this was a military style attack. military aged men involved were probably jihadis went back to europe. they should have been observable and they weren't. secondly, take that lesson and figure out how to penetrate the network to. defeat a network you must penetrate it. that means old fashioned espionage. that means old fashioned special operations, grabbing people, interrogating them. i'm sorry that'

intelligence community and also aviation experts and officials including retired lieutenant colonel tony shaffere" last night are taking the hard angle on this. this is what lieutenant shaffer had to say about this. >> physical evidence shows that the actual airframe, the all compartment shows pieces of metal fanning out like they were blown out. which tells me, well, this could be a locker-type bombing. >> reporter: of course, he's reflecting to pan-affleck 103 en route to jfk. and u.s. intelligence officials including the director of national intelligence james clapper, when we heard from him earlier in the program, he said while the u.s. intelligence community doesn't have any direct evidence of any type of terror incident or involvement, he also said, quote/unquote, he wouldn't rule it out. so steve, elisabeth, brian, the conversation is definitely shifting in that direction. >> the mystery continues. john huddy live in jerusalem, thank you very much. >>> does isis know that russia was bombing isis sadly? they were pretending to? regardless, they are in the middle of this. now here is heathe