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that's why i think -- i agree with everything tony shaffer said to do with them.ut when we have a bona fide sanctuary, we have to go in there and destroy it and we shouldn't wait for 2 1/2 plus year, 3 years like the obama administration has done with isis. another one forming in syria with al-quaida. it's significant ant we should be destroying that and hopefully the trump administration will do it. we got pushed out of yemen where al-quaida had a sanctuary. now we're trying to do some work there. very critical that we take them down. it's the sanctuaries that the plans are made and given. >> neil: and it would justified the raid that killed that navy seal and the valuable intelligence. i should explain to my viewers, neil, how did you put the stock market in the world in the context of this attack. it was for this reason, general. markets were fairly common in the face of this. you can say we're used this sadly or i think it could be a sign that you're not going to globally radicalize. you're not going to win this the way you have in the past. that's what i mean

national security agency william binney and former cia officer lieutenant colonel tony shaffer. let me start with you, wikileaks, caa uses stolen malware to attribute cyber attacks to nations like russia, what they're implying here is what they would deliberately mimic the hacking protocols of russia to obfuscate their own words, do believe that's true? >> i think that's true as well as i think a lot of the software that they've gotten to do the penetrations came from nsa and the other five eyes and other cooperating countries. they gained additional information once they penetrated into people like the russians and the ukrainians. >> sean: is it legal for them to do that at the cia? >> it's not their charter but they certainly are doing it and they have been doing it for many decades. it's nothing new for them. they've been using signals intelligence for quite some time. >> sean: in other words, we do know what happened in the case of general flynn, that was a felony violation of the espionage act. even though he did have in his case a security clearance, maybe they could have

joining me now former cia intelligence officer, lieutenant colonel tony shaffer. do you you agree with general hayden? tony: i do. what he's saying is absolutely correct. these vulnerabilities are not necessarily known to the public. hearing and criminal enterprises may know them. but we don't want them to to be known to hackers and the bad guys. the use of these things against u.s. citizens needs to be looked at. but as general hayden says, we need to use effective tools and procedures, and technology is ambivalent to the user. this is not about technology, it's about how we use it. this damaged our ability as a nation to do the hard worchg intelligence. liz: does it show enemies like isis, north korea, russia or iran how the cia does that work. we know north korea has been selling allegedly, selling nuclear elements to make nuclear bombs to unknown international buyers. we don't know who they are. we know there is a nuclear capability ramping up around the world. tony: i'm pretty sure nobody in north korea will be buying panasonic tvs. with that said there may be

we want to bring in lieutenant colonel tony shaffer.ning. coming straight from the president from his twitter account. we don't have a whole lot of details here, on the surface, if this ends up being true, in this was the case that the trump tower was wiretapped by at that time the sitting president, president obama, how big of a deal would that be? >> this is huge. this is soviet -- dare i say soviet level -- what we have to understand here is very likely he did authorize. this and according -- on the drive in just now you guys called me a little bit late. i was talking to folks on the drive in. this goes back to july of last year when rumors started that even though the obama administration was getting bush alabama back from the internal like the fisa court paper trail stay on this. let me say john broken than was probably involved in this. have you to have three people involved inside doing. this what's going to happen here the paper trail that president trump is referring to has finally showed up. so, let me be very clear, the fisa

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tony shaffer is on deck. now back to "watters world." kimberly guilfoyle in for jesse.y: the idea of a sitting president wiretapping the next commander-in-chief is almost inconceivable. but that's if the news breaking tonight. the president wrote in a series of tweets. terrible. just found out obama had my wires tached in trump tower just before the victory. nothing found. this is mccarthyism. is it proper for a sitting president to be wiretapping just before an election. turned bun by court earlier. a new low. how far has president obama gone to tap my phones just before the election. this is nixon watergate. bad or sick guy. tontony shaffer, great to see y. explosive news. this happened this morning. you were on "fox and friends" talking about it. some information and news has developed throughout the day. confirming what you have said this morning on the fox news channel. tell where we stand now. >> we stand where you were talking about earlier with everral go dough. due diligence -- with geraldo. due diligence is not a standard for discovering probable cause. a cand

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joining me know, lieutenant colonel tony shaffer, senior fellow at the london center for policy researchand a former islamic extremist and author of "radical, my journey out of islamist extremism." good to have you both here. let me start with you. when you listen to the details of this story, what strikes you the most about what we need to be concerned about here. >> unfortunately, as we just heard commit these sorts of attacks are going to be coming extremely common and difficult to predict and stop. what we do know is predictable pattern would exist in both of them, not just a random vehicle being used to attack people. we also know that these extremists will seek to pick out high propaganda targets, they seek to attack police officers, as has happened here. and we have to acknowledge the loss of life of everyone, also of a very brave police officer. finally, understand that because we can't predict them, the long-term solution is going to have to be building community resilience within muslim communities who have to start speaking out against this sort of poisonous, extremist rhetori

. >> neil: tony shaffer, thanks very much. i do know rand paul is a senator. he's a doctor.ld be a lawyer. senator rand paul with us. good to see you. >> thank you. >> neil: are you a lawyer? >> no. >> neil: we can proceed in english. i don't want to get into healthcare and so much more going on. this is a huge disruption. it was huge for the market to be disrupted. obviously it's a big deal. having said that, what do you think of the actions that the attorney general took to recuse himself and he says move on? >> you know, i think we need to get beyond this and start getting to some of the things that need to be fixed in the country. the biggest debate in the capitol and the country is what to do with health care. i think we need to hone in on that. hopefully the press conference by the attorney general will help us get on to business. >> i don't know about that though. you're closer than i am, sir. i'm getting a sense when the top democratic leaders are saying the guy has to go and others arguing that, you know, this whole thing might warrant a special prosecutor. it's spi

washington, gillian turner, a former national security staffer, along with lieutenant colonel tony shaffersenior member at the london center for policy research. let's start with you. let's unpack this a little bit, there seems to be a lot of f misinformation, disinformation, who knows what, going back and forth, when are we going to get to the bottom of this, of all of it? >> first, it is ironic now, eric, looking back, no one on the democratic side was raising cain with all the informationir from that british sources put out there. let's get that as a framer.ng with that said, eric, a lot of methods and capabilities now being discussed behind closed doors. as catherine said, going to do a few things. i have been in closed hearings, closed hearings allow you to disclose up to the logical classification level. not everything, but up to a level of what methodology was used and not only that, but the authorities were exactly. i have run these sorts of operations, and let me tell you something, ten years ago -- >> eric: let me ask you, does that mean they can say who unmasked general flynn? >

clayton: colonel tony shaffer always great to sigh. thanks, colonel. >> you bet.ng up on the show. shocking sexual assault by illegal immigrant teen. lawyer says it's president trump's fault. >> the reason for that is, i believe, that it's because of the disgusting vitriol that's been spewed by donald trump ever since the beginning of his campaign. >> i have no idea. clayton: griff jenkins demanding answers from maryland's governor. he will be here live. if conservatives won't agree on healthcare he will try to negotiate with the democrats. big show ahead. herman cain, michelle malkin and corey lewandowski all live on post healthcare disaster saturday ♪ money for nothing. [chicks for free ♪ ostriches don't really stick their heads in the sand. a peanut is not a nut. and a real john deere is actually real affordable. you learn something new everyday. the surprisingly affordable john deere e series tractors. now you can own america's tractor for just $99 a month. learn more at your john deere dealer. ♪ ♪ >> what would be really good, with no democrat supports if the

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