tony zinni has book out. tony zinni actually wrote a mem saying "don't go intoraq unless you're going to have 350,000 troops. if you don't go in with fl foe,e're going to have a mess on our hands." he predicted it. >> rose: right. >> and a lot of the smart genels that have been inraq before predied it. for some run donald rumsfeld didn't want to listen t generals that wothe first ir war d we decided we' going to win the war on the cheap. charlie, there's nhing coervative about that. there's nothing conrvative about spding this count in debt. there's nothing conservative about putting us $7 trlion in debt that's n conservati. >> rose:s tony zinni and col powell me the kind of republican that yo identify with tn, say, newt ginich? >> well, um.... >> rose: (laughs) >> let m put it ts way. >> rose: dot spin it... >> no,'m just going to put this way. newt gingrh can win statewide electis in georgia. colin powell can win statewide elections in connectit. we don't have con powells or tony zinnis in our party anymore

tony zinni has a book out. tony zinni actually wrote a memo saying "don't go into iraq unless you're going to have 350,000 troops. if you don't go in with full force, we're going to have a mess on our hands." he predicted it. >> rose: right. >> and a lot of the smart generals that have been in iraq before predicted it. for some run donald rumsfeld didn't want to listen to the generals that won the first iraq war and we decided we're going to win the war on the cheap. charlie, there's nothing conservative about that. there's nothing conservative about spending this country in debt. there's nothing conservative about putting us $7 trillion in debt. that's not conservative. >> rose: is tony zinni and colin powell more the kind of republican that you identify with than, say, newt gingrich? >> well, um.... >> rose: (laughs) >> let me put it this way. >> rose: don't spin it... >> no, i'm just going to put it this way. newt gingrich can win statewide elections in georgia. colin powell can win statewide elections in co

you know, and i would do it. >> rose: general toni zinni, the book written with tony coltz is called leading the charge, leadership lessons from the battlefield to the boardroom. thank you. >> thank you, charlie. >> rose: here is a sneak preview of tomorrow night's show t is a look at julie and july ya, the movie about julia child starring meryl streep and the director. >> were you spys? >> no, yes, no. (laughter) >> you were in the office of strategic services and you are not spies? >> i was only a file clerk. but paul, paul designed all the secret war rooms for general -- >> well, just maps and exhibits and things. >> he did. he single-handedly won the war. >> well, i had to. someone did. i mean it was drag on, wasn't it? anyway, so there we were in china, just friends having dinner, and it turned out to be julia. it turned out to be julia all along. julyia, are you the butter to my bread and the breath to my life. i love you, darling girl happy valentine's day. >> happy valentine's day. >> she was irresistable. and every one fell in love with her. when she moved to france, i mean

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joining me now, tony zinni, retired commander of centcom, and someone who also knows somalia very, very." welcome, general zinni. great to see you again. you've seen so many attempts to try to bring peace to somalia. do you think that the latest efforts, and we understand that there is a lot of american military aid going in, will the latest efforts be anymore succe successful? >> you know, i doubt it. the military support alone is not enough. i think we have to do much more to stabilize the government, some economic incentives, to really bring the people around and break the grip of the war loads in there and the continuously wars factions. and i don't think more pumping and more arms or taking a military approach is going to work. >> one of the things you wrote about in "leading the charge" is that many of us have looked critically at the leadership failures and mistakes of the recently zparted bush administration with the mistaken belief that our country's mistakes will go what with its departures. our leadership problems go deeper than those of governance. what recommendations could

to want, president clinton in north korea, john meacham and general tony zinni when we continue. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: bill clinton arrived in pyongyang on an unannounced visit. north korean television is reporting the former president left the country, the jailed journalists with parr were pardoned following an apology in a meter with kim jong il earlier today. the mission comes at a time of heightened tensions between washington and north korea over its nuclear program. as we tape this broadcast at 7:00 p.m., the white house has not commented on the release of the journalists. joining me from washington is glen kessler, diplomatic correspondent for the "washington post" and joe cirincione, president of the plow shares fund, i am pleased to have them both on this program, welcome. >> pleasure to be with you. >> thank you. >> rose: i want you both to tell me everything you know about what happened. (laughter) >> what we know is that this was a carefully arranged agreement put together by the w

with me is tony zinni, former chief of sent come and retired general. he is the author of leeing the charge. before we can answer the question about digging out of a hole seems like we have to figure out what the real mission in afghanistan is. and during the campaign, it was talked about let's go back to where the war on terror started, in afghanistan, where the taliban was, looking for osama bin laden, or now as critics of the obama administration say this war has turned in to nation building. what should the war in afghanistan be about? >> i think the strategy is the right one for this administration -- that this administration has proposed. it is ambitious. the president wants to internationalize this. in other words get more cooperation, more donors, more commitment, more burden sharing even in the fighting and of course we have had problems with alternate and other nations. he also wants to regionalize it. it is difficult to get afghans, pakistans and indians to cooperate but that will be necessary. that's why we are a super envoy out there trying

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we don have colin powells or tony zinnis in our party any more. well, we'veot a few, olympia snowee. >> rose: she w very good this morni. >> so goodn the show but for eryone that wants to kick colin powell out the party, i sayow really think --. >> re: that is rush limbaugh, isn't it. >> well, its a lot of people. i went out on myook tour and i watrying to expla to pple, if you want to be a tional party ain, you got to win a st or two n england. and let me ll you mething, people whoook like me and talk like me from thsouth, we're probably not going to do well in northeast harva maine. colin powellith. olympia sowee wi. tony snowwill. >> i just tew that out there. i own northeast. i'm sure iwould be just like e book tour. vote for him >> okay, if yo say so, okay i will ve for him but they kicked colinowell out of the party is insane i learned on the book tour t is fascinatingpeaking in new england. ha lot of people come up to me, a lot of older gentlema especially come up tme and say i ud to vote for republicans when they wereikeou. i said i'm real

we don't have colin powells or tony zinnis in r party any more. ll, wve got a few, olympia snowee. >> rose: she wasery good this morning >> so good othe show but for evyone that wants to kick colin powell out ofhe party, i say d really think --. >> ros that is rush imbaugh, isn't it. >> well, it i a lot of people. i went out on my bok tour and i was ying to explain to peoe, if you want to be a naonal party aga, you got to win a seaor two in newngland. and let me te you sothing, people who lk ke me and talk like me from the uth, we're probably not going to do well in northeast harvard maine. colin powell wh. olympia snee will tony snow ll. >> i just thr that out there. i own northeast. i'm su it would be just le the book tour. vote for him. >> okay, if youay so, okay i will vot for him. but they kicked colin pell out of the party is insane. i learned on the book tour t is fascinating saking in new england. hi lot of people comeup me, a lot of older gentleman, especially come up to and say i useto vote for republicans when they were lke yu. i said'm

general tony zinny, the former commander of the u.s.itary central command talks about fighting the taliban, but he also was supposed to become the u.s. ambassador to iraq. what happened? >> i kind of feel like charlie brown. >>> a u.s. missile strike is believed to have killed a top commander in pakistan. baitullah mesud is suspected of having a role in the assassination of benazir bhutto. what would his death mean for al qaeda and the taliban? >>> and joining us now, general anthony zinny, former commander of the u.s. military central command retired u.s. marine four-star general, the author of a brand-new book entitled "leading the charge: leadership lessons from the bloomfield to the boardroom." we'll talk about those lessons in a few moments, general. thanks very much for coming in. >> thank you for having me, wolf. >> is this apparent assassination, this targeted killing of the taliban leader in pakistan, baitullah mesud, is that a big deal or a little deal? >> that's a big deal. the operations that the pakistan military conducted,

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