. >> we've got tonya, jack and ben with us. jack, i'm going to call on you first. i want no interrupting and cross talking. it's driving our viewers crazy. >> why do we need a public option at all? the president, not only did he not offer a bill, he offered not one coherent action argument for a public option. the only silly argument he offered was this would stimulate competition. how can it possibly stimulate competition? >> let tonya answer that. >> i'm going to look past john's stone throwing and talk about what the president should be doing right now. you introduced the segment talking about obama care, but we haven't heard what obama cacare. what the president has to do tomorrow is really set forth the parameters of his reform so he can start having a real conversation about this. >> let me throw this out here. if tanya and julie are really sincere and they want to bring health coverage to everybody, why will they not adopt one of these republican plans to simply buy private health insurance for people? >> what do you say, julie? >> because the private insura

tonya is with us. what is going on, tonya, in your situation? >> caller: well, i'm looking at possibly doing bankruptcy or debt consolidation. i'm not sure which way to go. my current job right now, because of the economy, i'm getting my hours cut. what i bring home per month just barely makes it. i don't have my -- my credit cards are not late. i pay them every month. but it's killing me. i have no money left over at the end of the month. >> how much in credit card debt do you have? >> $30,000. >> with the hours cut back, what would you guess your income is right now? >> approximately $42,000. >> when you've reached a point where your credit card exceeds 50% of your annual income, you cannot handle it. >> caller: okay. >> with the income you have. the first option you should do is just pick up the phone, call all your credit card companies. how many are there? >> caller: eight. >> eight? wow! you can call all eight of the credit card companies and say the exact same thing. you say my hours have been cut back. i can't even make minimum payments

tonya acker, first of all, where does it say she did not spit at him.is. even if she did provoke him in some way, so what. that doesn't give you the right to legally pummel anybody. if you have a problem with somebody, you call the cops. >> that's exactly right, jane. putting aside the gross immorality of this issue, a beating down a woman, an army reservist, a woman who's willing to put her life on the line for her country who apparently can't make it out of the state of tennessee without getting beaten up, putting aside all of that, there's no legal defense for that. you can't assault somebody if they spit on you. if she did do that, which witnesses are saying she did not, but if she did, there are other recourses. this is completely unconscionable. my understanding he's only charged with a battery, which i also find -- i'm sorry, a misdemeanor, which i find unconscionable. >> it's absolutely wild. we've had instances that we've covered, tonya, where somebody is driving a car and taps somebody and they're charged with attempted murder. >> absolutely r

. >> reporter: the lawsuit says the two acorn employees, sheryl williams and tonya thompson suffered extreme emotional distress. it asks that the two women are compensated half maldollars each. it seeks damages from the two film makers and the distributor, bright bar.com. >> no one is defending the statements that the acorn employees made. they admit they were foolish and shouldn't have been made but they have a right to privacy. >> reporter: of the three attorneys currently representing acorn, two are from here in baltimore. one from new york. live at circuit court in baltimore city, i'm jessica kartalija, wjz eyewitness news. >>> since the video surfaced congress band federal funding and the census bureau and irs have served ties with acorn. >>> new information about the two baltimore city officers who shot a man holding what they thought was a weapon but turned out to be a spasm lachlt the officers shot the suicidal man in the 2400 block of bridge hampton drive. he's listed in critical condition. a police spokesperson says two officers have been on the force less than two years. >

exact time a year ago when trooper 2 fell from the sky killing pilot steven bunker, mickey lippie, tonyalard and patient ashley younger. four deaths one man said should have been prevented. in your letter, the first line was your immediate attention is requested to prevent loss of life. >> m-hmm. >> did you believe that at the time? >> yes, i did. yes, i did. >> reporter: peat peterson was the maryland state police pilot who wrote this whistle blower letter last year before the crash of trooper 2. he had been flying for more than nine years, he said his concerns were too deep, too critical not to blow the whistle. that people would die if it continued as it was. >> i did believe that. i thought it was just a matter of time. >> it turns out it was just a matter of two weeks. >> m-hmm. it -- you could see the progression of things over three hn three-four-year period. all the components were in place. >> reporter: peterson has 36 years of flying experience as a civilian pilot he started to seal latent failures in the system in 2004. the conclusion, msp needed a new fleet of choppers becaus

tonya is with us in new jersey. tonya, your comment or question here? caller: if misty wasn't there, can she be charged with child endangerment? >> i don't think we're at that point. marlena, obviously we think that. she was in charge of not only little haleigh, but also junior. he's 4 years old. do we have any idea -- what is the prevailing theory, marlena, if they weren't in that house, where were they? were the kids there alone? >> according to tommy, the entire house was dark. there were no lights on. so the assumption right now is that she was not home. and possibly the kids were home alone. misty has told the cops and the public that she was at home. and they were watching movies. the fact that there were no lights on, you know, there was no tvs on, really, we don't kno@ where she was. >> well put there. we're going to take a quick break. we'll take more of your phone calls, 1-877-tell-hln is the phone number. as we explore this, are the walls closing in on misty at this point? pothole:h no...your tire's all flat and junk. oh, did i do that? here,

. >> reporter: remember la tonya she liveed a life that would scare us. now she will go over the edge if they ask. are you going to go for free? >> i would jump off a oiled abouting. >> this is so absurd i have made it to the ground. i thought you needed to take one more look so. mike schuh. back to you on tv hill. >> you the man, mike. >> only 80 people with. can repel future if you are interested go to www.wjz.com they expect to raise around $40,000 from this event. not from me. >>> growth come on our morning news... >> swine flu death, a 13-year- old girl loses her battle with h1n1. i'm mary bubala. we have that report ahead. >>> good morning, along i-95. there are two bridges that need work. which ones next. >>> good morning. a courageous fighter for the ravens raises money for a very terrible disease. that's coming up. >>> we're starting to see more volume on the area roadways. we'll let you know if there are delays because of it. now over to marty. >> mike schuh had a dak rouse job yesterday. kyle petty drives for nascar. you can no longer text and

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here now body language may mayven tonya reiman. not a tax defined.ple americans don't like that. they don't want to be forced to buy anything. he did i investigators it now, this is a rhetorical body language thing. he seizes on the meriam's dictionary to try to get away from what's happened did you pick that up. >> the first thing i noticed he did two defensive gestures. he tucked down his chin. bill: ok. >> and then he kicked out his foot. bill: kicked out his, what? >> you will see as it comes. bill: on the two shot. >> as he starts talking. what happens when this topic comes up the foot juts out it's. bill: he wants to kick george. >> unconsciously kicking him. the lower half of the body is typically where emotions seep out of. we can control the upper half really well. when you see movement in the lower half. bill: that's interesting. so when you get agitated, or uncomfortable. >> you will see it in the lower half. bill: that's an involuntary gesture showing that he doesn't like the question? >> no. that's just when you know you have hit an emot

bill: with us now tonya reiman. we are happy that mr. axelrod came on. first time as we mentioned. i didn't let him do his talking points which i don't let anybody do, including you. was he comfortable in that interview? >> there were a few instances. i noticed when you started talking to him, watch how his right cheek goes up. that's his look of irony to say what the heck are you talking about. he disagrees with you completely. that's very early on in the interview. here we go. you will see the right cheek will get higher and higher. that's contempt, disdain. bill: that's contempt? >> yeah. when that lip goes up to the side like that. so there is. bill: look at the eyes now. the eyes shift. >> that's also because is he looking at that little red dot. so that's tough. bill: that doesn't mean anything? >> in this situation i would say that doesn't -- see that face? that was disgust. bill: that was disgust. >> yes. bill: he thinks the question is stupid? >> well, i'm trying to remember what that question was. bill: the question was the speech is too long. >> that's what it was. then

legal guides are out this week, so joining me today we have a lot of girl power going on, attorney tonya acker and criminal defense attorney bon jean. what's the criteria of a hate crime? what will investigators be looking for in this case? >> investigators are going to look for evidence of racial bias or animous in the commission of this attack. all the reports suggest that in the course of this beating and certainly the district attorney hasn't released the video. cracker barrel has reportedly been asked not to -- asked by the da not to release the video -- but there are reports that in the course of this beating this accused was calling this army reservist a number of racial slurs and a gender-related slurs so it certainly stands that there may have been that sort of racial bias or animous in this attack. >> you say the da has asked cracker barrel not to release the video, to the public? are we talking to federal investigators? >> no, not to release it to the public. the reason is because they don't want to taint the jury pool. the reports are that the beating that was recorded on thi

. >> tonya's with us in new jersey. tonya, your comment or question here?>> caller: how are you doing? is misty going to be charged with anything, like she wasn't there, will she be charged with like child welfare, if she wasn't there? >> that's a good point. what happens next. mike, i'll go to you on this one. it's too early for charges. but we're clearly seeing, i guess, it just all fits her inconsistencies here. if she wasn't there. >> right. you know, what you need to file charges, something called probable cause. do they have enough probable cause yet? i don't even think they have reasonable suspicion yet, mike. there's been so many inconsistencies. if tommy's lawyer said, we'll go ahead and do it, a polygraph. >> much more on this coming up. x >>> welcome back. we're excited about the latest addition to our lineup here on hln. get ready to welcome joy behar. check out her new show, "the joy behar show." debuts tuesday, september 29th, right here on hln. >>> this story. we really want to hear from you on this one. how can anyone be so heartless to hara

>> jill, before we got a question, in utah we had with president bush -- you helped market all and tonya dog elected to congress. i watch what the bush administration was doing. we were battling in the minority in the congress. can you talk a little bit about what the activists and others were doing on the outside to try to -- the bush assault on southern utah? >> utah in many ways is been very retarded. [laughter] at least politically on the environment. you've still got the old timers and there, still living in yesterday. then i going to be friendly to the environment. where is the hope? you got sitting right here in the colorado, the secretary of the interior, he sits in a very big comfort see. he has got to do this balancing act. salazar understands the west. i know that. and he has made some very good move so far, but you've also got people on the other side that are still in office that should be probably gone, because of their age in their ideology. they're not aligned with what the west really needs right now. they still see it as a place where you can develop it. you take wild l

. >> before we go to questions, in utah we had with president bush -- you helped mark udall and tonya dog elected to the contras. i watched what the bush administration was doing in southern utah. we were battling in the minority in the congress. could you talk a little bit about what the activists and others were doing on the outside to try to -- in southern utah, the bush assault on southern utah? >> you talk and be very retarded. -- utah can be very retarded. [laughter] they're people that still living yesterday and and i going to be a friend that the empowerment. i did you have sitting right here in colorado of the secretary of the interior, a man who i raised money for war, he sits in a big catbird seat. he has to do this balancing act. salazar, he understands the west, i know that. and he has made some very good move so far, but we also have people on the other side that are in the office. they probably should be gone because of their age and their ideology. they are not aligned with what the west really needs right now. they still see it as a place to develop. take wild lands,

tonya is with us. what's going on in your situation?'m getting my hours cut. what i bring home per month just barely makes it. i don't have -- my credit cards are not late. i get them every month. and 50% of your annual income, you cannot handle it -- >> okay. >> -- with the income you have. the first option you should do is just pick up the phone and call all of the yes card companies and tell them the same exact thing, my check has opinion cut back and i can resume paying you but can i not pay you right now, believe it or not the credit card companies are will make you an offer. and they can do a debt bhgment plan and they mark to down to zero and if it comes to easier for you to honor your debt, either of them are preferable. hello, carl can. >> caller: hello. i'm a training developer and everything was going great until i found out that at the didn't have a contract for us to work on. i like the government positions and it's federal government is not as fragile. it's going to be 15 to 20,000 less than what i am making in florida but