it is judge tonya chutkin. what does it mean for the office trying this, just blocks from the u.s. capitol? guest: it is a constitutional guarantee. the government needs to bring cases in the part of the country where the acts giving rise to the crimes occurred. that is why mar-a-lago is in florida. the capitol here is an washington, d.c. this judge has experience as a criminal defense lawyer in private practice. that might be a good thing for the former president, in terms of her being presumably very careful about protecting constitutional rights, though i think any federal judge would do that. the judge is not going to be as pro-trump, whereas judge cannon in florida has set the trial numbers, in terms of motors, from which they will pull the jury pool that very solidly voted for trump in the last election. it is a benefit to the president. in order to get a conviction in both of these cases, there needs to be a unanimous jury. if one juror decides they are loyal to the president no matter what, that would be a hung jury. he would not be convicted. the government could certainly

at the judge, the judge tonya chutkin pushed back strongly when the former president's lawyers he doesparties ready for trial, but this is not the case. one of the president's attorneys made a strong push for a later date. he said what the prosecution was trying to get was a show trial and not a speedy trial. you can see from the proceedings here today, this judge, judge chutkin, she was not patient with the idea of waiting for 2026. i should note that she had a conversation with a judge in new york where the former president is also facing a criminal trial related to the rush money there in new york. she said that she talked to the judge there, and felt it might backfire nonetheless, and now there a lot of room between now and the seven months where the two sides will try to push it out further on, and a major decision by judge chutkan which is one day before super tuesday, the big date on the primary calendar. thank you for bringing that to us. rahel? >> a terrifying moment over the skies in florida that ends in a helicopter crash. plus, we learn who was on board. >>> and trial date

also, right here in washington, a hearing involving trump, the elections subversion case when tonya chutkinis going to talk about when that trial should start. counsel jack smith wants it to be in a few months from now, and trump's team is asking to push it off to 2026, and we know that fani willis in georgia is asking to try trump as soon as october, and the judge is approving the 2023 start date, so sara, a lot is swirling here in the next few week, and we will continue to see the hearings, but a lot is lined up for monday, both in georgia and in washington. you know, the cases that will implicate trump or the co-defendants like mark meadows. sara? >> so many cases to juggle, and you do it so well. jessica schneider. thank you. >>> and now, immediately fund-raising from the shot heard around the world as john berman would say, the main fund-raising page attached and even more, there is an official mugshot merch, and the campaign is launching "never surrender" mugs and bumper stickers and he did have to surrender to the county jail, and now, kristen holmes is going to join us from his bedm

comes from our reporter is been at the courthouse many days who noticed more security around judge tonya chutkin kindly deputy u.s. marshals discussing security, we don't have any more from the marshall service but this is always something that would be expected and it ramped up security around the jurors in the roger stone case and they've done quite a bit of worse -- work, making sure that the courthouse was very secure, the same time as they are wrapping up security, making sure the building is secure other people have security, they are making sure that things run like normal over there at the federal courthouse as they always have done, and high-profile cases. >> think you guys very much. we will of course stay on top of the story. >>> donald trump's main republican rival is sharpening his criticism, what ron desantis is now saying about the formal -- former presidents loss in 2020 and what t it mean for 2024. o. clink! dr. marshall used partrt of his refund to give his practice a facelift. emily used part of her refund to buy... i run a wax museum. let innovation refunds help you get start

of a protective order that's the subject of a friday hearing and could weigh heavily on judge tonya chutkin as she hears arguments about whether the former president can be trusted with government evidence, part of that evidence a previously unknown campaign memo, which was the first to lay out the plot to use fake electors to subvert the 2022 election. prosecutors are portraying it as a crucial link in how the trump team's efforts evolved into a criminal conspiracy. while all this is unfolding in d.c., nbc news has confirmed that fulton county d.a. fani willis is expected to present her case to a grand jury next week, potentially leading to trump's fourth indictment. a whole lot to get to. i want to bring in nbc's blayne alexander following the case in georgia. paul butler is a former federal prosecutor, a law professor at georgetown and an msnbc legal analyst, and eugene robinson, "washington post" columnist and an msnbc political analyst. blayne, let's start with the latest on the timing in georgia. what can you tell us? >> reporter: well, next week, chris, that's what we're watching for

to a certain extent, every other date will fall into place after judge tonya chutkin sets the trial date. thank you for that. sara? >> and now the politics. the gop political candidates are going to attend the party's first primary presidential debate, and the frontrunner donald trump says he won't be there, and how the candidates are preparing to make the case to the republican voters without him. >>> plus, the search operations continue in maui after the devastates wildfires. the death toll has risen to 115 people. >>> just a bit later, a very large scope emergency. firefighters in los angeles evacuated more than 200 patients from a local hospital after a power outage overnight, and we will have the details of what happened to all of the patients next. ♪ ♪ ♪ voltaren. the joy of movement. ♪ ♪ (upbeat music) ♪ ( ♪ ) woah. ( ♪ ) ( ♪ ) ( ♪ ) ( ♪ ) constant contact delivers the marketing tools your small business needs to keep up, excel, and grow. constant contact. helping the small stand tall. [announcer] if you're thinking about earning your degree online, snhu can help you get there. -

trump writes that he plans to ask judge tonya chutkin, who is presiding over the case to recuse herself and further claiming that he will also request a change of venue for the trial. one of trump's rivals for the republican nomination for president disagrees. >> i believe jurors can be fair. i believe in the american people. and i believe in the fact that jurors will listen fairly and impartially. >> reporter: despite his legal troubles mounting, trump hit the campaign trail this weekend, visiting south carolina, where he again criticized his latest indictment and special counsel jack smith. >> he's a deranged human being. you take a look at that face. you say, that guy is a sick man. there's something wrong with him. >> a trump campaign adviser tells cnn that trump has no plans to change his rhetoric. the former president also took aim at his former vice president, mike pence, disputing the claims in the indictment that he pressured him to reject the election results. trump's attorney, john lauro, says that trump was merely asking the vice president to act. >> what tpresident trump di

the woman is accused of calling judge tonya chutkin on august 5th saying she'll kill anyone who goes after trump and also threatened to kill texas congresswoman among others. she's being held in detention pending trial with the bond hearing set for september 13th. >>> covid-19 levels are on the rise according to federal surveillance data. the relatively low right now but we could see an increase as fall approaches. the centers for disease control and prevention says covid hospitalizations have been climbing since early july. they also report roughly 1% of hospital beds in u.s. in-patient and intensive care units are currently covid patients. >>> and the head coach of the u.s. women's soccer team vlatko andonovski has reportedly resigned. this comes after the u.s. was eliminated by sweden from the world cup in round of 16. they lost in the penaltyshootout fit you can remember. he was named the ninth coach for the team in 2019. he won his first 11 games as led coach. gianna? >>> all right, nicole. being a scientist could seem boring to some people and maybe sitting in a lab analyzing d

judge tonya chutkin is providing over the case.e can weigh in, and cameras are not allowed in federal court. it's unlikely she would allow this to happen, but the judicial conference would have to weigh in. televising something like this is historic, but unlikely given a it's a federal case. it's also like likely the trump team will try to get this judge off the case, but there's no sign that she will recuse herself. cheryl:ing i have a feeling there's going to be plenty of television coverage. >> reporter: either way. cheryl: david, thank you very much. appreciate it. >> reporter: you're welcome. cheryl: a new poll from the emerson college that has donald trump and president biden in a ted heat in arizona with the former -- dead heat in arizona with the former president taking a 1.5% lead. kaylee mcghee white joins me now. kaylee, i want to see your thoughts on this. we're talking about arizona, a crucial state in 2020. do you see the gap between the two widening, and is it too early, do you think, to talk about these polls? >> i

that's district judge tonya chutkin. today is a magistrate judge, who tend to handle the more clerical aspects of this type of procedure. he'll likely be given a chance to enter a plea. the judge will make sure he has counsel, which we know he has his attorneys with him and the judge will set bail which almost certainly will be released on his own recognizance which means there's no bail. bigger picture, this to me is the start on the road, the long road to potential meaningful accountability. this president has been impeached for this, sued for this, been investigated by representative kingsinger's committee for this, but there's never been any meaningful consequences, potentially, until this moment. >> karen, the former president's attorneys, defense lawyer, is arguing that the prosecution's not going to be able to prove that trump believed he lost. you think that's actually not essential that they prove that. >> i don't. it's not an element of the crime, right? that they're going to have to ultimately prove. even if h

the woman is accused of calling judge tonya chutkin on august 5th allegedly leaving a voice nail saying will kill anyone who goes after trump and also threatened to kill texas congresswoman jackson lee among others. she's being held in detention pending trial with a bond hearing set for september 13th. >>> covid-19 levels are on the rise according to federal surveillance data. the relatively low right now, but we can see an increase as fall approaches. the centers for disease control and prevention says covid hospitalizations have been climbing since early july. they also report roughly 1% of hospital beds in the united states in-patient and intensive care units are currently covid patients. >>> the time now is 6:37. apple could soon be sending diabetes can serve up a lot of questions, like, "what is your glucose?" and "can you have more carbs?" before you decide... with the freestyle libre 2 system know your glucose level and where it's headed. no fingersticks needed. manage your diabetes with more confidence. and lower your a1c. the number one doctor prescribed cgm. freestyle libre 2.

it is judge tonya chutkin. what does it mean for the office trying this, just blocks from the u.s.itol? guest: it is a constitutional guarantee. the government needs to bring cases in the part of the country where the acts giving rise to the crimes occurred. that is why mar-a-lago is in florida. the capitol here is an washington, d.c. this judge has experience as a criminal defense lawyer in private practice. that might be a good thing for the former president, in terms of her being presumably very careful about protecting constitutional rights, though i think any federal judge would do that. the judge is not going to be as pro-trump, whereas judge cannon in florida has set the trial numbers, in terms of motors, from which they will pull the jury pool that very solidly voted for trump in the last election. it is a benefit to the president. in order to get a conviction in both of these cases, there needs to be a unanimous jury. if one juror decides they are loyal to the president no matter what, that would be a hung jury. he would not be convicted. the government could certainly do