. >> i thought jeef jeffrey toobi point was interesting. not saying i agree with it.act -- correct me if i'm wrong -- the american public by dint of their representatives have created this institution and given it the permission to do as toobin seems to be arguing, all of the things that it did. >> i would say two things. one is, right, that's sort of true although it is not ultimately true for this reason. the question here is does this data collection violate the constitution, the fourth amendment. that's never actually been finally litigated by the supreme court. >> in large part because they haven't been able to. >> because they haven't been able to because the government invokes state secrets. so we have a process for dealing with ultimate questions of constitutionality in our system and that's the supreme court ultimate rules on it, as they did with obama care. the entire national security state constructed post 9/11 has been tlosloweded behind secrecy people's opinions are divide as to whether you trust authority. >> one thing we're not paying attention to is t

tooby need this? like we do. second, can we afford this? and how do we afford it? you want to talk about that annette? >> -- a minute. >> thank you, senator. can we afford the year plan is the question facing it. >> the american people. >> there is no other option right now. what we are being asked to do is play our national and strategic guidance and based on that requirement that handed to our services in the domain, this airplane is something to we need to meet the mission assigned. it changed dramatically and there was no intent to be worried about threats from other technology development in the future if there wasn't a requirement for the night the streets of america to be able to protect its national interest we would need the year plan but that was not the case and sell everything we are focused on right now is making shredded as operationally feasible. the work that every single day and focus on the cost of the development and production and sustainment overtime and how we drive the cost down. they help them in that effort for the service perspective we ar