>> guest: so the hardest example for people to accept from westborough baptist church in topeka kansas. when i went very very much wanted to dislike the church. they are so angry. it seems like they are so hateful and yet they tried to explain to me that what they are doing is out of love because they believe that they have been instructed to love their neighbor and how can you love your neighbor more than to tell them that they are going to hell but they have a chance to turn around so they believe what they are doing is a loving thing. that is really hard for the west rest of us to accept and i don't expect everybody to accept that without skepticism but i think we have to at least take a moment to consider where they say they are coming from. >> host: jeff chu did you interview members of the phelps family and where you out to them? 's. >> guest: i spent four days in topeka having dinner with the phelps talking and worshiping with them in church going on protest with them because they really wanted to understand what life was like in that congregation. they were very open with me an

tonight, we begin in a little courthouse in topeka, kansas. we begin with this. >> do you believe abortion should be made illegal? >> do i myself? yes. one other comment about that. i'm also antimurder and i put a lot of murders away, too. i follow the law. >> that was phil klein. the former republican attorney general for the great state of kansas and he was not in that courthouse that day to put away a murderer. he was there because he was on trial. he had been holed up on ethics charges for professional misconduct. and that drama came to an end today when the kansas supreme court finally took away his license to practice law. they took his license and he was the attorney general of that state. the real drama in this case has always been that this phil klein event has been taking place against the backdrop of just incredible violence in kansas. in 1993, this woman walked up to a kansas doctor and she shot him. shot him through both of his arms. he had been attacked before. his clinic had been fire bombeded, but in 1993. they shot him. he cam

>> guest: i spent four days in topeka having dinner with the phelps, talking to them, worshiping withthem in church, going on protest with them because i wanted to understand what life was like in that congregation. they were very open with me and i was open with them as much as they wanted to know. it's pretty obvious on social media that i am gay. i didn't tell them straight out. they never asked. i assumed that they know, but it was never an issue. and never really came up. and i realized that it didn't matter because they believe everyone who's not a part of their church is going to anyways. >> host: jeff chu, what did you find in the mainstream christian religions? >> guest: i found a lot of diversity. much of mainline christianity in america hasn't been a more progressive direction and more clues that direction. but as you can see for the presbyterians bickering over what to do about their denomination and other denominations really struggling with this issue, there is no one set of opinions. i think general trend of coors, asset rotter society is that the church is moving in a

today, we spoke with a woman from topeka, kansas, who's been working for the federal government for 34 years and expects to be furloughed tomorrow. >> we'll have to look into using our savings account, whatever is there, we'll have to look about maybe putting off our mortgage payment. >> reporter: cindy blithe is a program management analyst for the coast guard. she directs her anger at congress. >> everyone else is supposed to get along. why can't they? i am very angry about it. they need to step up to the plate as we would say in kansas, cowboy up. >> reporter: erika towns is a nurse at a military base in maryland. what would you tell members of congress? >> they need to trim their own fat and stop touching mine. trim around their paycheck, not mine. >> reporter: townes' paycheck supports four children and a husband with multiple sclerosis. she was already furloughed earlier this year because of the across-the-board spending cuts known as the sequester. >> so we already jumped off the carousel, now we've got to get back on again? really? why are we having to pay this price, this debt

tonight, we begin in a little courthouse in topeka, kansas.n with this. >> do you believe abortion should be made illegal? >> do i myself?

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host: and that's ryan from topeka, kansas. there's a story in "usa today" talking about the healthcare exchanges. it includes a source from millward down bridge tail, about 9.4 million people visited healthcare.gov in the first week of operation. for those who made it to the enrollment page, 36,000. again, one of the factoids from the "usa today" story, which you can find online. john from waldorf, maryland, not too far from washington, d.c., republican line, hi. caller: good morning. thanks for taking my call. yeah, i think i'm a federal worker. i have not been affected by a furlough because i'm active duty, but i've been watching this and listening to c-span regularly. i think the real point of all of this for me was that our leadership is ignoring the mathematics of this situation, and this idea of calling a debt ceiling raising, you know, all of the nomanclature out there, but what it really comes down to, when president obama took office, the average debt, our national debt per person in the united states was approximatel

tonight, we begin in a little courthouse in topeka, kansas. we begin with this.

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>> i spent four days in topeka having dinner with the phelps, talking to them, worshiping with him in church, going on put this within. because i really wanted to understand what life was like in that congregation. they were very open with me, and i was open with them as much as they wanted to know. it's pretty obvious on social mean that i'm gay. i can tell them straight out. they never asked. i assumed that they knew, but he was never an issue. it never really came up. i realized it didn't matter because what does it matter if i'm gay? i'm going to hell for some reason. >> what did you find in some of the mainstream christian religions? >> i got a lot of diversity actually. i think much of mainline christian in america has moved in a more progressive direction and more inclusive direction. but as you can see from the presbyterians bickering over what to do with the denomination and other denominations really struggling with this issue, there is no one set of opinion. the general trend, of course, as with the broader society is about the church is moving in a more liberal direction b

the question is not whether kabul is going to look like washington or topeka. the question is whether the afghan people are going to accept the legitimacy of the government the way most people in most countries around the world and all countries that do not have insurgencies do. that is a different standard in different parts of afghanistan, as you know. when you go into valleys, they do not want any government. when you try to bring government to them you have a big problem. in urban centers, it is a very different situation. i think we have seen some progress. the corruption is important. the corruption has been a driver of instability for a variety of reasons and will continue to be. but we are looking for something that will satisfy the afghan people. that is what we have been driving toward, and as with the progress has been moving toward even though we do not recognize it as a kind of a monomeric -- most americans would want to live in. >> several of us have spent time over the years in afghanistan. how many types of states there are within it. there is a

cities, you are going to see fresno, topeka, charleston, new orleans, cities across the country, if i those cities would is going to happen. those cities can still borrow, going to mean any markets and borrow. 21 to watch is ten cities with the lowest cash reserve and detroit on this west, allentown, glendale and new orleans, philadelphia, patterson, new haven, the ones that according to what we are hearing in new york having difficulty in connecticut difficulty borrowing in the mini market so that is the map we think is one to look at so going forward, the other trends we are seeing that is so important is we are seeing a trend of more cities, towns and villagess merging police and fire departments and emerging cities. you see that in california and michigan where if they're struggling they're making the right move to merge their operations and entire governing operations across the board. >> there was a report the detroit pensioners, many taking a haircut, $0.16 on the dollar. it is people. the city's having any luck renegotiating these? liz: we opposed that to the guys on wall stre

the question is not whether kabul is going to look like washington or topeka.the question is whether the afghan people are going to accept the legitimacy of the government the way most people in most countries around the world and all countries that do not have insurgencies do. that is a different standard in different parts of afghanistan, as you know. when you go into valleys, they do not want any government. when you try to bring government to them you have a big problem. in urban centers, it is a very different situation. i think we have seen some progress. the corruption is important. the corruption has been a driver of instability for a variety of reasons and will continue to be. but we are looking for something that will satisfy the afghan people. that is what we have been driving toward, and as with the progress has been moving toward even though we do not recognize it as a kind of a monomeric -- most americans would want to live in. >> several of us have spent time over the years in afghanistan. how many types of states there are within it. there is a

what is actually doable in topeka. we've seen arkansas has been approved to do something different. iowa is going to talk more about what they are up to and other states are figuring this out. so i think this is going to play out. at the end of the dador i think all states will wind up doing the expansion packs i do. don't ask me what is essentially means though. the other big issue that i think is important to touch on now that we have been dealing with it for a couple of weeks is apart from the big picture issues that have gotten all of the attention, the expansion do it or not or what and exchanges state run or federally run. the key thing to keep in mind is from and medicaid perspective and statewide perspective, what ever you decided on those granted very important questions you can say no to the expansion and a state exchange. there is still an enormous amount of work that you have to do to overhaul, modernize and reform your program in. every state has been frantic at work the past couple of years trying to take legacy eligibility systems from the east in -- adc and convert t

what i can tell you as i mentioned topeka is we've always come even predating the problems with the website, anticipated that in keeping with what we've seen in other programs of similar nature that, even in keeping with open enrollment periods as you see in insurance lands that you guys probably sign up for every year, a lot of people do a lot of they are and rolling at the very end while the shop earlier. that's the kind of thing we expect to see but we will be providing information monthly. >> has the white house in any way changed guidelines for staffers or administration officials in how it relates to social media networks? many people have their own social media on their own private and and have a government one. >> i have not seen anything new on that. >> a revamping of gun control from the present anytime soon since the shutdown is over? spent i appreciate the question. this is an issue that the president believes we can' can d should make progress on in a bipartisan way that achieves some comprehensive -- not comprehensive -- some commonsense steps towards reducing gun violence. th

the same person who lives in topeka and lawrence will see a 62% premium increase over the state average for that same insurance plan for this past year. these are examples that are happening all over kansas and all over the country and it makes it clear that the president's health care law will continue to fail to control out-of-control health care costs. with that i would be happy to yield to my esteemed colleague from michigan, congressman walberg. mr. walberg: i thank the gentlelady for yielding time and for leading this discussion of a way forward. i appreciate the fact that we are now in a shutdown of government. that, i fear, has been intentionally perpetrated in order to force something further on the american people. i remember between my first term in office, after being defeated in 2008, to come back here and spending time for the next two years back in my district, and in watching my colleagues, my former colleagues, and now my present colleagues, battle and debate on the floor of this great chamber, this great house, this great capitol, but in the people's house, the issue o