>> guest: so the hardest example for people to accept from westborough baptist church in topeka kansas. when i went very very much wanted to dislike the church. they are so angry. it seems like they are so hateful and yet they tried to explain to me that what they are doing is out of love because they believe that they have been instructed to love their neighbor and how can you love your neighbor more than to tell them that they are going to hell but they have a chance to turn around so they believe what they are doing is a loving thing. that is really hard for the west rest of us to accept and i don't expect everybody to accept that without skepticism but i think we have to at least take a moment to consider where they say they are coming from. >> host: jeff chu did you interview members of the phelps family and where you out to them? 's. >> guest: i spent four days in topeka having dinner with the phelps talking and worshiping with them in church going on protest with them because they really wanted to understand what life was like in that congregation. they were very open with me an

today, we spoke with a woman from topeka, kansas, who's been working for the federal government for 34 years and expects to be furloughed tomorrow. >> we'll have to look into using our savings account, whatever is there, we'll have to look about maybe putting off our mortgage payment. >> reporter: cindy blithe is a program management analyst for the coast guard. she directs her anger at congress. >> everyone else is supposed to get along. why can't they? i am very angry about it. they need to step up to the plate as we would say in kansas, cowboy up. >> reporter: erika towns is a nurse at a military base in maryland. what would you tell members of congress? >> they need to trim their own fat and stop touching mine. trim around their paycheck, not mine. >> reporter: townes' paycheck supports four children and a husband with multiple sclerosis. she was already furloughed earlier this year because of the across-the-board spending cuts known as the sequester. >> so we already jumped off the carousel, now we've got to get back on again? really? why are we having to pay this price, this debt

tonight, we begin in a little courthouse in topeka, kansas.n with this. >> do you believe abortion should be made illegal? >> do i myself?

tonight, we begin in a little courthouse in topeka, kansas. we begin with this. >> do you believe abortion should be made illegal? >> do i myself? yes. one other comment about that. i'm also antimurder and i put a lot of murders away, too. i follow the law. >> that was phil klein. the former republican attorney general for the great state of kansas and he was not in that courthouse that day to put away a murderer. he was there because he was on trial. he had been holed up on ethics charges for professional misconduct. and that drama came to an end today when the kansas supreme court finally took away his license to practice law. they took his license and he was the attorney general of that state. the real drama in this case has always been that this phil klein event has been taking place against the backdrop of just incredible violence in kansas. in 1993, this woman walked up to a kansas doctor and she shot him. shot him through both of his arms. he had been attacked before. his clinic had been fire bombeded, but in 1993. they shot him. he cam

this first screen grab was sent to us by rebecca witt from topeka, kansas, she was looking for baby furniture. "bisexual changing table." [ laughter ] i think she meant unisex, i think. who knows. who knows. >> steve: how much was it? $65. >> jimmy: yeah. this next one is a -- sent by ron avernick of avon, indiana. he was watching "wheel of fortune" and paused the tv and here's what he saw. jackass. [ laughter ] a pat sajak with donkey ears. [ applause ] >> --halloween costumes. >> jimmy: he could pull off anything. this next one is from ron tempest in new york. it's from one of those captcha things, squiggly words you have to type in if you're ordering tickets online to a concert or something like that. anyways, check this out here. chunky teste. [ laughter ] honey, i'm getting that taylor swift ticket for your birthday. don't come in. don't come in! chunky teste. >> steve: it was your first band wasn't it? >> jimmy: what's that? >> steve: first band was chunky teste. wasn't it? >> jimmy: my first band. chunky teste. chunky testaverde. chunky testaverde. >> steve: yeah. [ laughter ] >> jimmy

host: and that's ryan from topeka, kansas. there's a story in "usa today" talking about the healthcare exchanges. it includes a source from millward down bridge tail, about 9.4 million people visited healthcare.gov in the first week of operation. for those who made it to the enrollment page, 36,000. again, one of the factoids from the "usa today" story, which you can find online. john from waldorf, maryland, not too far from washington, d.c., republican line, hi. caller: good morning. thanks for taking my call. yeah, i think i'm a federal worker. i have not been affected by a furlough because i'm active duty, but i've been watching this and listening to c-span regularly. i think the real point of all of this for me was that our leadership is ignoring the mathematics of this situation, and this idea of calling a debt ceiling raising, you know, all of the nomanclature out there, but what it really comes down to, when president obama took office, the average debt, our national debt per person in the united states was approximatel

tonight, we begin in a little courthouse in topeka, kansas. we begin with this.

>> guest: the hardest example would be whisper about his church, which is the church in topeka, kansas when i went there, it very much wanted to dislike church. they are so angry. it seems like they are so hateful. and yet they try to explain to me that what they are doing this out of love because they believe they've been instructed to love their neighbor. how can you love your neighbor more than to tell them that they are going to, but they have a chance to turn around. so they believe what we are doing is a loving being. now that it's really hard for the rest of us to accept. and i don't expect everybody to accept that without skepticism. but i think we have to at least take a moment to get it or where they say they are coming from. >> host: jeff chucommittee to interview members of the phelps family and were you out to them? >> guest: i spent four days in topeka having dinner with the phelps, talking to them, worshiping with them in church, going on protest with them because i wanted to understand what life was like in that congregation. they were very open with me and i was open w

who lives in topeka and lawrence will see a 62% premium increase over the state average for that same insurance plan for this past year. these are examples that are happening all over kansas and all over the country and it makes it clear that the president's health care law will continue to fail to control out-of-control health care costs. with that i would be happy to yield to my esteemed colleague from michigan, congressman walberg. mr. walberg: i thank the gentlelady for yielding time and for leading this discussion of a way forward. i appreciate the fact that we are now in a shutdown of government. that, i fear, has been intentionally perpetrated in order to force something further on the american people. i remember between my first term in office, after being defeated in 2008, to come back here and spending time for the next two years back in my district, and in watching my colleagues, my former colleagues, and now my present colleagues, battle and debate on the floor of this great chamber, this great house, this great capitol, but in the people's house, the issue of what was then called the affordable care act. i remember reading about it and listening and speaking