topol. i don't get it. did the president have a significant exposure and now the white house is trying to do something prophylactically? there is something here that does not make sense. but what i can tell you is that regardless, it flies in the face of all the guidance that's coming from the federal government's public health organizations themselves. it just doesn't fit. >> gloria, do you -- go ahead. >> no, i think that's the real question. what exactly is the president's exposure here? we know that the vice president's press secretary was exposed, has coronavirus. we know that his valet had coronavirus. clearly the white house doctors are concerned. this is the president as we all know who doesn't wear a mask even though he had exposure. so, you can imagine the conversation, i'm sure, where his doctors were concerned and maybe the president, as you said today, just suggested, well, how can i -- what have i got to lose? how about taking this? and dr. reiner pointed out, remember, he was dick chaieney' d