you don't have to win iowa, but topou don't finish in the three, that is a sign you will not go anywhere out of iowa. this time around, the field is so big, and full of highly credentialed people -- senators, governors, ceos -- do you think the old rule applies, especially in an era when people have sources of outside money to tap on as well? i think the: premise of your question is correct. i believe the old adage does not fit this year. we have exactly what you said, a very wide field of credible candidates. i do not know what the magic number is in terms of the ticket out of iowa. more opinion, there are than three tickets out of iowa. that fulfills what iowa is supposed to do which is give everybody a chance to be heard in environment where you do not have to be a multimillionaire, you do not have to be self funding yourself. i think we fulfill that role, i think we fulfill that role all jimmyy back in 1976 when carter was able to claim a name for himself, and all the way through today. i believe that is the role of iowa. i think there are more than three tickets out of here. ms. tum