i'm phil torres here to talk about innovations that can change lives. we're going to explore the intersection of hardware and humanity and doing it in a unique way. this is a show about science by scientists. let's check out our team of hard core nerds. dr. shini somara, life and death in the or, one woman in desperate need of a transplant. will the donor lung arrive before it's too late? marita davidson is a biologist specializing in ecologist and evolution. tonight, swimming with sharks and a shark robot that will one day protect these fascinating creatures. i'm phil torres, i'm an entomologist exploring spiders in the rain forests of peru. now let's do some science. ♪ >> hi guys, i'm phil torres, welcome to a very special episode of "techknow." we're getting revolutionary access to technology, a revolution story, dr. shini somara to tell it. >> it is one of the most interesting things i've ever done in my life. changed my idea, machines replacing human bodies, essentially. take a look. >> breathing. it usually happens so naturally, most of us never e

i'm phil torres and i'm here with kosta and shini.u recently went to a very interesting farm in the middle of an airport. >> yes, something called tower garden. check it out. this is going to allow a lot of people a different life, to grow produce anywhere. let's take a deeper look. ♪ ♪ >> for over 8,000 years, we've been plowing dirt to grow our food. in fact, we've go gotten so goot it that over 80% of the world's farmable land is already in use. by 2050 we can expect another 3 billion people on planet earth to join us for dinner. another china and india. on average, food travels 1500 miles from farm to table. how can we continue to grow food to feed the hungry masses? one answer is strert cal farming farming. smerl, california known for its eclectic shops and restaurants has another new feature, a vertical farm. >> i'm alex thomson , montecito farms. >> seedlings to harvested vegetables. his farm produces are fresh vegetables to seven restaurants every day. >> this is a tower garden. can you tell us how it works? >> it is a vertica

i'm phil torres here with kyle, marita and crystal.what you got for us. >> so imagine the day when you go to the supermarket and instead of going to the meat section you go to the protein section. you have chicken, beef and pork but a whole lot of plant based protein as well. i got to check out their products and put it to the test in a barbecue. let's check it out. grilled, sauteed, processed or packaged. >> organic science fan? >> america's obsession with meet is ferocious. >> four pounds is even better. >> and bigger is better when it comes to our april tide as evidenced from this wendy's ad from the '80s which epitomizes america's infatuation with beef. >> where's the beef? >> we school 250 pounds per person per year. experts predict we won't be able to sustain it. >> i would say we are already not doing it sustainably. we already are applying on the planet's resources more than we really should be if you just look at climate change alone. >> the united nations estimates that meat consumption will rise nearly 75% by 2050. the risin

cesar ---antolin garcia torres, el hombre acusado de asesinar a la adolescente "sierra lamar" take vomparecio hoy en un juzgado del condado de santa clara en la primera de una serie de audiencias preliminares para fijar la fecha de inicio del juicio en su contra... ---la fiscalia asegura tener suficientes pruebas que lo vinculan a la muerte de la menor que desaparecio en marzo de 2012 en morgan hill. cesar ---salen a la luz nuevos detalles sobre el incendio cerca al centro de san jose. incendio que afect las antiguas instalaciones de la estacion de television "kntv"... un descubrimiento que podria cambiar el curso de la investigacin se hizo hoy... take 2 box ---katherine orozco, con mas detalles desde ese lugar, buenas noches. 0.01 0.20 1.02 1.47 pkg katherine vo el hallazgo se hizo en los escombros de un incendio de cinco alarmas que destruy el antiguo edificio de "kntv" el fin de semana. vo ademas, un indigente enfrenta cargos por usar un liquido que pudo haber iniciado el fuego en este lugar que servia como refugio a personas sin hogar. de acuerdo con las autoridades, stillman pfef

. >> i'm phil torres, an entomologist. tonight i meet the indiana jones of space technology, and discover -- >> we're the same people who. >> kosta grammatis. and lindsay moran. a former cia agent. that's our team. now let's do some science. ♪ >> hey guys, i'm phil torres. welcome to "techknow" i'm joined by are crystal dilworth, and kosta grammatis. and linda moran. - lindsay moran. >> let's take a look at the safety of e-cigarettes in general. >>> they're fruity flavorful fun and more popular than ever. the explosion in advertising dollars and sales of strong cigarettes are in the billions as the devices are being touted as a safer alternative to smoking tobacco cigarettes. >> i think it's the best thing smoke. >> i wake up in the morning and my lurchtion hurt really bad. i started vaping and it started getting better and better. >> are the claims really true or are they a smoke screen? the health rirvetion associated with the use of electronic cigarettes associate with the liquids themselves. the research at u.c. rivers

i'm phil torres joined today by lindsay moran and dr. crystal dilworth.eet the researchers behind these spectacular machines, take a look. >>> it's an early morning scene played off in households everywhere. jason koger must get himself ready, plus his child. making some important decisions about what he's going to be wearing today. >> being a bilateral amputee you have to use prosthetics. if you oar single arm amputee, you have the ability to use a real hand to help. you know it's kind of like a tool form. >> near san diego, california, katie walker is putting her latest tool are to effect. customized personally for herself on the field. >> if the attachment pops off. the bat attachment the bat handle goes right inside of here. so it's supposed to after i swing after i pop it through i can pop it right off and start running. >> and then rotate around. cool. >> for upper limb amputees like jason and katie, gone are the days of hook lever arms. alongside occupational therapists to design custom made prosthetics for patients' dreams. >> the opportunity osee

torres.two albuquerque police officers in plain clothes want to his home to serve him with an arrest warrant for a-month-old road rage incident. an altercation ensued in the backyard. according to police one of the officers fired after torres grabbed a gun from the officer's holster. shot in the back three times at point-blank range. last month. a neighbor of the family, and the only independent eyewitness to the incident testified she saw torres on all fours in his backyard and never saw him reach for a gun. >> i saw the officer who was punching him, ease up and draw his gun. and say i'm going to shoot you. that's when i -- i backed into the fence and bolted for the phone. >> the police officers claim they were acting in self defense. they were also cleared of wrongdoing by the district attorney's office. that was in february. a wrongful death civil suit filed by torres's parents is still penneding to day. and joining me tonight, in an exclusive interview, the parents of christopher torres,

i'm phil torres, i'm an entomologist. but tonight, i've got the story that will have you shaking your heads. why bugs should be a part of your next meal. that's the story, now let's do some science. are ♪ ♪ ♪ >> welcome to "techknow". i'm phil torres and today i'm here with kyle, lindsay and rachelle. we're going to start with a story of how we can use our dna in medicine . rachelle, what do you have? >> i submitted my dna for a company called 23andme. let's find out. >> simple test, nothing complicated. the first thing i have to do is take the tune and i get to fill it with slief hav splie saliva. you can watch me spit. that's done. i joined 23 million people who sent their saliva to 23andme. to conduct a personal dna test. they begin with our 46 chromosomes, 23 from each parent, filled with you're dna. dna is a double helix with base pairs of nucleotides. as paired with cs. >> katy: , g s.over and over. so that a sequencing machine has enough material to determine the exact order of those as ts gs and cs. >> that's the

i'm phil torres and here with kosta and shini. here in the u.s.n you think about tornado alley, you think of oklahoma. you recently went there. >> very high frequency of tornadoes, 50 on average. we went to moore, oklahoma, it was devastated by tornadoes on may 20th. we went to university technologists, let's take a look. >> west side of burton we have a major tornado coming down. >> may 20th, 2013, one of the worst tornadoes on record is captured on a time lapse video that went viral. >> people in west moore must be underground for this tornado. we have large large chunks of debris. >> the entire nation watched, as the tornado took a direct hit on the hig elementary. in moore. >> from the looks of the school i knew it wasn't looking good. >> winged recorded at over -- winds recorded at over 210 miles per hour. turning the ground into a pile of rubble. >> it needs to be a priority. you need to have a shelter. >> 300 miles from moore in texas tech university lab, they work to make it a reality. >> what we have here is an air cannon called boomer .

in a nutshell -- >> excuse me commissioner torres. >> thank you mr. president on the issue of the tunnel why is there a delay on that. >> in the bay tunnel. >> yeah. >> actually it's on schedule the delay is because the original concept was when we tested the tunnel the water was going to be dumped into the bay now the concept has changed now as a result so that's the logistics. >> what's the benefit to the rate pay er for that. >> we save the water. >> i want to make sure we got that answer on the record. >> exactly. exactly. >> thank you. >> good question. >> all right. >> these are the lists of the projects i think we've given you a package that gives you pretty good information about why things changed where they changed these are the summaries of the five projects we actually saved money and the five projects which actually required it and the savings are the water treatment plant has been completed it gave back 5.4 million and we look at the contingents and look at what the risks are there and reduce the funding from $5 million and this is a rea

in a nutshell -- >> excuse me commissioner torres. >> thank you mr. president on the issue of the tunnel why is there a delay on that. >> in the bay tunnel. >> yeah. >> actually it's on schedule the delay is because the original concept was when we tested the tunnel the water was going to be dumped into the bay now the concept has changed now as a result so that's the logistics. >> what's the benefit to the rate pay er for that. >> we save the water. >> i want to make sure we got that answer on the record.

i am phil torres. for most of us, communicating with the human voice is something we kind of take for granted but not so with some of meet. >> yeah. i was able to meet three patients that all have als. it's a devastating condition that degenrates the muscles in the body including those in the vocal cords. so they lose their ability to speak. but using technology, they were able to communicate with me in a really remarkable way, such as these stories we are working. take a look. >> on a snowy day in the of seasons, the training camp for the baltimore ravens football team seems deserted but a j.b. rigans, the senior advisor to player development is at his desk as he is every day. >> you come here to work several times a week, and one wouldn't blame you if you wanted to stay at home. what keeps you coming here? >> sure, i could have stayed home and gone into seclusion after my als diagnosis. but coming to work is about refusing to give up. if we are isolated from human interaction, our spirits will wither

i am phil torres. now, we are all relatively familiar with facial recognition technology, but there has been recently. >> these algorith imdz were used by the military for counter by the military for counter terrorism and crime in cases. as i found out, this technology has a much wider application. let's take a look. >> you can't hide your face. you have always had a privacy face with your face being out there and about. you were counting on people recognizing it. not a computer. >> facial recognition technology was first popularized by shows unit. >> we magnified the photo. facial recognition software does the rest? >> congratulations. you are not our perp. >> scenes like this are playing out in police departments around the current tree. facial recognition is helping everyone from cops to nightclub sglfrnz. >> come up to our door, our main office, the lab, and we have access control, face recognition going on here. i am just going to go up and look through the window. there is a camera there that wil

investigators say they have evidence that torres kidnapped and murdered the teen in 2012. lamar disappeared while walking to her bus stop in 2012. torres was arrested a short time later but his lawyers needed time to look over the evidence. >> residents returned home before 8:00 to find that her house had been ransacked not too far from the midtown shopping center. the woman said that she saw two people talking inside. police stopped the car blocks away and arrested a 15-year-old. fire investigators trying to figure out what sparked this fire in san francisco. intense flames and thick black smoke. the fire broke out in lecastro. the flames shot through the roof of that penthouse. nine people getting help from the red cross. bad boys be aware if you commit a crime in san jose, you could end up on tv. the popular tv show "cops" will be shooting with the police department. officials believe that appearing in the show will boost moral and recruit officers. this is the first time that the show will feature the bay area police department. >>> city advisers did approve that plan.

garcia torres was in a court today. here's the video. he was arrested two years ago but does not have a trial date. that could soon change. he was ordered back in court in june to schedule his trial. garcia torres has pleaded not guilty. sierra lamar disappeared in 2012 on her way to school. her body was never found, but investigators say they found her brood in garcia torres' car. >>> we have new details on a fire near downtown san jose that gutted our old studios. you see the pictures of the fire on the right side. cadaver search dogs have now pin pointed a spot where there may be human remains, and firefighters are digging at that spot. this is also a key piece of land near the sharks arena. cheryl hurd is on the scene where this is happening. >> reporter: we found out that firefighters just moments ago, they came upon some debris that's too heavy to lift up with their hands, so tomorrow they're going to bring in a big machine that can help them with their digging. they're also going to bring back those cadaver dogs that can help them

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commissioner torres and commissioner torres are xoud we have a quorum. item 3 is the approval of the minutes that you have in your binders. may i have a motion >> so moved arrest second. >> all in favor, say i. opposed? the motion carries. we now move into. those are items not on the agenda that can be discussed >> hello. >> hello. >> i'm david i'm here on behalf of the gun club. i know you're all aware of our concern of our future of lake merced i'm here today to ask for the commissions focused attention on two seers matters of impact like lake merced and this site. we are definitely in support of efforts to clean up the site we're definitely in support of the site of what's going on. but there are two mistakes being made with regard to the analysis this necessary out there. i've got a letter here for commission. two matters deal with first, the proposal that was sent by the city to the water board it is designed to clean up the site. as you may know anytime the clear up of the site the first analysis that's required for any agency to regulate this it t

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mÉxico donde un pequeÑo poblado fue escenario de una balacera, pero la violencia no parÓ ahÍ, raÚl torresÁgenes y saldo de enfrentamientos. >> una y otra vez repetÍan no los golpeen, pero una y otra vez los golpeaban. >> policÍas comentarios civiles armados capturaron a 4 hombres que en la tarde del domingo primero se enfrentaron a tiros los acosaron de deparara y matar a un comunitario. >> en el auto del fotÓgrafo iba el policÍa que recibiÓ un disparo en el cuello. >> el fotÓgrafo dice que comentarios llegaron al poblado la concepciÓn a investigar la llegada de supuestos desconocidos iban a realizar la inspecciÓn de las personas que no eran conocidas en el poblado y al parecer fuimos emboscados. >> los 4 arrestados son hermanos y antes de entregarlos con la policÍa del estado fueron amarrados con golpes les arrancaron la confesiÓn que ellos dispararon, domingo dijo que estaba dispuestoed dispuesto a morir. >> en 1995 naciÓ la policÍa comunitaria en guerrero en los Últimos aÑos ha crecido sin control, por el enfrentamiento con el crimen organizado. >> entre lÁgrimas mujeres del pueblo dij

the man left for dead is 78-year-old angel torres. >> he was bleeding on the back of the head.outh, all over the place. >> immediately after the accident, angel's son appeals for help. >> my father is fighting for his life. i just would like the public right now to help us. >> information about the gentleman that got hit by the car. he retired as a forklift operator, a huge yankees fan and a wizard at dominos. >> he was my best friend. we got together every day and played dominos. he helps everybody. he was a person that if you need help, he is there for you. he never say no. he never back out. he were this. >> my father is the man i always want to be and the man i pretend to be. a good father. couldn't have asked for a better father, good grandfather, great grandfather. >> angel is an active member of the community, someone who looks out for others. >> in seven years, we used to go down and pick up clothes and stuff for the poorest people and bring it back to the city and help out the people in the city. >> angel's world and that of his family is changed forever. put on a vent

vÍctima de la furia roja al sacar tres veces el balÓn de su porterÍa el postre lo sirviÓ el niÑo torresgrupaciÓn que se ha internacionalizado como la mÚsica tradicional mexicana afina violines, trompetas para acompaÑar al tri en tierras cariocas, ahtziri cÁrdenas estuvo con el tri. >> no solo alegraron con su mÚsica sino sus acordes llegaron a la muralla china fueron los reyes de la fiesta afuera del estadio de wembley donde la selecciÓn mexicana de fÚtbol se coronÓ campeona venciendo a brasil festejo que continuÓ hasta dentro de vagones del me ogro. >> ♪ (mÚsica)♪. >> pronto este alegre mariachi se escucharÁ en brasil en las ciudades donde el equipo tricolor juegue la primera fase del mundial. >> planeamos seguir a la selecciÓn hasta que le gane a brasil 3- 1. >> vamos mandar traer camisas de mariachis que se se llama camisola la mitad bandera de brasil con la mitad de mÉxico si empata pues aquÍ mero como les vamos a ganar vamos a estar asÍ. >> se trata del mariachi nueva generaciÓn originario que llegÓ a jalisco para encender la pasiÓn futbolera. >> este mariachi de san luis potosÍ va

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el gobierno federal anunciÓ que pronto comenzara a desarmar a las autodefensas de michoacÁn, raÚl torresensas no hubieron muertos ni detenidos aÚn asÍ el gobierno anunciÓ que en 2 semanas comenzarÁ el desarme de las autodefensas dicen que le ganaron la guerra al cartel de los caballeros templarios >> dejar a la autoridad seguir con el trabajo y estamos haciendo dÍa con dia. >> las autodefensa surgieron en febrero del 2013 soldados civiles que se enfrentaron a secuestros y extorsiones de los templarios hoy dÍa el gobierno quiere que dejen las armas o quieren que sean parte de la policÍa. >> para reanudar el registro de persona para los cuerpos de defensa rural,es. >> para entregar las armases exigen la captura o muerte de los lÍderes del cartel. >> el nÚmero 1 nazario moreno y enrique p. murieron abatidos por marinos otros capturados pero falta el nÚmero 2 gÓmez la tuta por eso no quieren entregar todavÍa su armamento. >> mejor que me mate perdÓn el gobierno los sicarios los que en verdad hacÍan ejecutan las muertes >> algunos lÍderes de las autodefensas estÁn de acuerdo en entregar las a

y varios compaÑeros heridos raÚl torres nos dice quien es el conductor, y lo que espera en corte.Ález, fue arrestado mÁs tarde luego de enfrentarse a tiros con la policÍa, 1 estudiantess resultaron heridos 3 de ellos estÁn graves. incluida una joven que podrÍa perder la vida, porque sufriÓ fractura de crÁneo. >>> fue necesario, colocarle un tubo, ponerla al ventilador y tratar de manejar el edema cerebral que tiene. >>> los estudiantes de la escuela normal, cuela que forma a los nuevos maestros cerraron una avenida en morelia, protestaron para exigir cambios en los programas de estudio. >>> entonces llegÓ esta camioneta intentÓ avanzar sobre la acera lo detuvieron los estudiantes hasta que el conductor los enfrentÓ con un tubo. al verse superado regresÓ a la camioneta y se fue contra todos. >>> el hermano del estudiante herido, dice que ella, tenÍa el derecho a protestar >>> seguiremos en la lupa, exigiendo que se haga justicia. >>> en mÉxico la ley garantiza el derecho al libre transito las manifestaciones son cotidianas y pocas veces el enojo habÍa provocado tanto. >>> en mayo d

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>>> que es buena defensa. >>> buena defensa. >>> mi querida torre?rio de protecciÓn al menor. >>> buena defensa. >>> y mi querida torre. >>> estÁ fuera de lugar tendrÍa que estar mÁs en lÍnea. me explico? asÍ. >>> mano... >>> penalti. >>> sereno moreno. >>> para que se viera el letrero bien. >>> bien estados unidos, y de donde viene la siguiente? >>> de argentina. >>> la messi femenina. >>> ahÍ estÁ. >>> estÁs emocionado? >>> muy emocionado. >>> pero le voy a estados unidos igual. >>> ahora no estoy tan seguro. (risas) >>> luis omar que piensas de argentina. >>> te digo una cosa, para usar la albiceleste y utilizar la 10, y convertirse en la pulga biÓnica le falta todavÍa. >>> ivÁn. >>> no hay duda que es una... >>> quÉ? >>> jugada peligrosa. >>> abogo el cambio de camisetas. es importante. como pasa despuÉs de un partido. por favor, cambio de camisetas. >>> no se vale eso. gracias a la representante de argentina. gracias. >>> no, muchas gracias. y la siguiente chica. >>> holanda se recupero. >>> naranja mecÁnica lo que hace falta es tirarse una buen

immigration, and john torres who from 2008-2009 was acting director of ice.hat is it like in the detention centers? is there a pattern? are they roughly the same everywhere in the country? >> i've never been inside of a detention center myself. i've worked with a lot of people who have. i don't think that it's the same everywhere around the country because the standards are so hard to implement especially with private prisons. one thing that we do know is that we have lots of people who are in detention centers who are complaining about the conditions, the pay and the treatment that they're getting and lack of ability protest these things. right now in washington state, in texas there are hunger strikes happeningeinside of the detention center, and in arizona there was one where people are protesting those things. what's happening is that the detention centers are retaliating against the people who are protesting. in texas we had two organizers deported. in arizona when they were doing the hunger strikes we had two people deported from inside. and people are

. >> happy earth day commissioner torres. >> thank you very much i have a question so there's a set of recommendations that have been presented and i'm just wondering if the puc staff general manager's office and team had a chance to look at the recommendations. >> before you arrived we had a discussion on this. this is a letter and we're going to prepare a response and come back to the commission at a future meeting addressing each one of these issues. >> so the answers were not incorporated into the potential action that we'll be taking today? >> that is correct. we actually just received a letter this week and this is a reiteration and we can't fully address those in a comprehensive way and we'd like to develop some responses to bring back to you. >> okay and so this would not prohibit us from taking action today potentially. >> this would not prohibit you from taking action today. >> okay i just would want to make sure of that and we're being responsive. >> yeah we've been through this a couple of times and if we were to decide that there was additional information we can always am