we also talked to torsten slok from deutsche bank. this is what he had to say.hink it will continue to slow, jobs going down to 100,000. we think the unemployment rate will go up. we are getting worried trade uncertainties, ism manufacturing will begin to show up in the data. david: over and under. which you take? david m.: i am more inclined to agree with larry. they continue to deregulate and that is a sleeper impact on growth and jobs. employers,e cost for the regulatory burden. as they ease up on that in the trump administration, that will help us bring the number back up. david: they certainly tried to continue to deregulate. we hear a lot of reports that if you look at the court challenges, they are losing more than they are winning. it is not that easy to deregulate. david m.: it is difficult and often takes years. it is a signal to the businesses it is moving in the right direction. the other thing that is good news is it is happening under the radar, across the agencies. as they might lose in one case but they will pickup and others, you saw in your rep