charlie: how does torvald see her? chris: how does torvald see her? as a completely changed person. not recognize her. charlie: is he surprised? chris: i think he is dumbfounded. charlie: he thought she would go off and drift into nothingness? chris: well, yeah. i think he was convinced she is still living, but her outcome, what has happened to her, i'm sure he has no idea. charlie: why does she leave? lucas: she has gotten into a spot where she is not sure what she wants and she has this strong suspicion the way she is walking through life is without any understanding of who she is as a person. so she thinks she needs to go find out who she is. charlie: her identity. lucas: yeah. she certainly does not think she can find that person if she stays in this house because she will keep falling into patterns of behavior, so she needs literally a change of scenery. charlie: it begs this question, who am i? lucas: yeah. the way the play articulates it, it talks about is a voice inside of your head. that voice is you, but you have all of these other voices colliding in on it. the voices of

. >> and how does torvald see her. >> how does torvald see her, as a completely changed person. he doesn't recognize her. >> is he surprised? >> oh, i think he's dumbfounded. >> rose: he thought she would go off and drift into nothingness. >> well yeah, i mean i think he was convinced that she was-- she is still living. >> rose: right. >> but her outcome, what has happened to her, i'm sure he has no idea. >> rose: why does she leave? >> she has gotten into a spot where she is not sure what she wants. and she has this strong suspicion that the way that she is walking through life is without any understanding of what she is as a person. and so she thinks she needs to go find out who she is. >> rose: search for identity. >> yeah. and i don't think, she certainly doesn't think she can find that person if she stays in this house. because she'll just keep falling too patterns of behavior. so she needs literally a change of scenery. >> rose: that is an ageless question, who am i? >> yeah, yeah. and it is you know, the way the play articulates is it talks about that there is a voice ins