party. farage banned from the tories today. e told gb news he is the sixth and final candidate to slam the door in farage's face. is this the right thing to do, or is the party over for the tories ? they're the least likely tories? they're the least likely demographic to attend university, the most likely to fight for their country and the most likely to commit suicide . most likely to commit suicide. yet they are labelled as far right thugs whenever they have the audacity to complain. are white working class men the most overlooked demographic in britain? and did the demonstrate the demonisation of them help to drive the recent riots? next up, should we bring back psychiatric hospitals after a number of deaths at the hands of people with known serious mental health issues, including valdo calocane, should the public be protected from them? and breaking news from the last houn breaking news from the last hour, premier league footballers will take the knee once again starting this weekend. is it virtue signalling? meaningless tos

you know the fundamental problem is the tory party membership. and they choose the leader. and i think this is a problem for the tories. it's also a problem for the labour party. you know, any system of selection that gives you jeremy corbyn, boris johnson and liz truss has got to have something against. >> hold on. you say that the members are more extreme than the british public, but the reason why many would say the tory party failed to win the british public over , let's british public over, let's forget the infighting. but the fact that they weren't conservative, they did not have conservative, they did not have conservative policies. that is the reason why they didn't get the reason why they didn't get the vote. and many, many voters went to reform, that's why. so i don't think that the members are further to the right than the british public. there's a myriad of reasons why the tory. that's why i said i park those, but i'm going with you. >> come on to that. i profoundly believe, based on history, the only place you can win elections in br

. the consequence of the rioting. >> given all that, would you allow him to be a member of the tory party were leader? >> no, not i made that very clear. so no deals with nigel farage. look, nigel farage wants to destroy the conservative party >> there's no deals there, tom and emily, between farage and anyone who becomes the next leader of the tory party because they've got a question. these these six individuals, do they go off to the right , unite the go off to the right, unite the right against labour? do they go into the middle ground and get squeezed by lib dems and labour and labour itself? not easy, but clearly there's no chance here of farage helping them out of their hole. >> do you get the impression that they know what they should be doing in order to get back into government? well, we're trying to find out. >> that's why we're doing interviews on our podcast, which you can listen to if you want to, or watch emily and tom, but, and other programs too, across gb news, we're trying to find out what is the future of the tory party and where do they go? do they try and tack the ri

remark. >> hi matt, i've been a member of the tory party since the age of the tory party since the ageresigned their memberships because they feel disenfranchised by the party. how do you think robert jenrick is actually going to bring young people back and restore their faith in the conservative party? do you think he's the for man that? >> so i think actually one of. well, two factors probably, i think one of the biggest things affecting young people in this country are one of the, one of the largest things is actually around housing. it's around the struggle that people have to get on the housing ladder, probably more so down here than in my part of the world. but it's still a huge challenge for people in my part of the world. and i think, robert, having been in mhc, if you look back, he's the guy who looked at housing, looked at the fact actually, when you're building this stuff, it's not about building the cheapest, crappiest house. it was about building things that were beautiful, that added value to their surroundings. it was also about creating more dense , also about creating

do you believe the tory party has a future?nishing three out of five voters don't even care who the next leader voters don't even care who the n> martin, thank you very much . >> martin, thank you very much. and good afternoon to you. just coming up to 4:03. the top story today, the health secretary has acknowledged that there were fundamental failures in the mental health care that valdo calocane received before he killed three people in nottingham, a care quality commission review has found. he wasn't taking his medication and that the nhs missed opportunities to mitigate the risk he posed to others. ian coates, barnaby webber and grace o'malley—kumar were stabbed to death last june in nottingham . death last june in nottingham. wes streeting says the report today is deeply distressing what the care quality commission have uncovered is deeply dis

she's wasting her time in the tory party as they're all leftists.t a leftist and i'm still in the tory party along with labour. she needs to go back to reform now . and frank back to reform now. and frank suella stands for all that. being british is. suella stands for all that. being british is . she needs to being british is. she needs to be conservative leader and people once again vote conservative. well, christopher hope's interview covered a good deal of ground with the former home secretary. everything from the tory leadership race to why we lost the general election to failing the electorate. on the issue of immigration. so joining me now to discuss this is my most intellectual panel. gb news is senior political commentator nigel nelson and the former adviser to boris johnson, lord moylan. daniel, i'm going to come to you first with this amazing chart that suella made that we campaigned as right wingers and governed as socialists. that's a terrible failure and indictment. >> well, it's a it's a very stark way of putting it. but the truth is,

i don't mean just leaving the tory party, which _ mean just leaving the tory party, which i _ mean just are 160 seats behind. it when you are160 seats behind. it might— when you are 160 seats behind. it might be — when you are 160 seats behind. it might be a — when you are 160 seats behind. it might be a good one to miss out on. there _ might be a good one to miss out on. there is— might be a good one to miss out on. there is not— might be a good one to miss out on. there is not a — might be a good one to miss out on. there is not a great sense of excitement. i also think the party has been — excitement. i also think the party has been hollowed out. a lot of good people _ has been hollowed out. a lot of good people have left, partly because of the brexit— people have left, partly because of the brexit shenanigans and then the election— the brexit shenanigans and then the election defeat. i'm not sure it is a very— election defeat. i'm not sure it is a very high— election defeat. i'm not sure it is a very high quality field in all honesty _ a very high quality field in all honesty. so fr

she's wasting her time in the tory party as they're all leftists.a leftist and i'm still in the tory party along with labour. she needs to go back to reform now . and frank back to reform now. and frank suella stands for all that. being british is. suella stands for all that. being british is . she needs to being british is. she needs to be conservative leader and people once again vote conservative. well, christopher hope's interview covered a good deal of ground with the former home secretary. everything from the tory leadership race to why we lost the general election to failing the electorate. on the issue of immigration. so joining me now to discuss this is my most intellectual panel. gb news is senior political commentator nigel nelson and the former adviser to boris johnson, lord moylan. daniel, i'm going to come to you first with this amazing chart that suella made that we campaigned as right wingers and governed as socialists. that's a terrible failure and indictment. >> well, it's a it's a very stark way of putting it. but the truth is, wh

and i see that's going to happen in october, probably after the tory party conference.kes questions, somebody may ask that question . i shall wait ask that question. i shall wait to hear what his answer is. i don't have an answer, but it's an interesting thought, isn't it, that a senior contender, one of the frontrunners to be the next leader of the party, really wants to have a former leader back? >> that that hasn't tended to happenin >> that that hasn't tended to happen in recent history. you've got to go back into the past. hold on. i mean, it happened with alec douglas—home that ted heath brought him back. it happened with william hague. but william hague hadn't been prime minister. it's not usual. >> well mr mr cameron was brought in >> well mr mr cameron was brought irgeneral election for stand the general election for a constituency in the house. >> that's what david frost, when i say david frost. yes. i mean the other david frost. >> the other david frost. >> the other david frost. >> yes. i mean, i mean lord frost. yes. yes. i mean, he threatened to do that. t

and ex—chairman of the tory party, sirjake berry. i ex—chairman of the tory party, sir jake berry. and i want you sirjake berry. and i want you to tell me what happens next here. please does hanan wall have something to give back? >> he looks behind. >> he looks behind. >> get ready britain, here we go . >> get ready britain, here we go. it's not far right to be anti—mass migration. next. >> good evening from the gb newsroom. it'sjust >> good evening from the gb newsroom. it's just gone 9:00. your top story this hour. british tech tycoon mike lynch and his daughter are among six tourists missing after a luxury yacht sank in a tornado off the coast of sicily. the british registered 56 metre bayesian had 22 people on board when it went down. a body believed to be that of the vessel's cook has been found. divers are now combing the waters as search efforts continue around the wreck. 50m underwater. so far , 15 people underwater. so far, 15 people have been rescued, including the wife of mike lynch and a one year old girl. it comes just

plus, priti patel officially launched her tory leadership campaign today under my leadership, i will bnng under my leadership, i will bring our partyget us back to winning ways. so is she the woman to save the collapsing tories and also on the show? keir starmer is slammed for removing a portrait of margaret thatcher from downing street. he reportedly found it unsettling. and talking of unsettling . go and talking of unsettling. go on.and and talking of unsettling. go on. and angela rayner has been raving in ibiza. so why

, which started after won labour the general election following months of a stalemate under the tory party. the new offer is for a 5% backdated pay rise for 2022 to 2023, a 4.75% pay rise for 2022 to 2023, a 4.75% pay rise for 2023 to 24, and a 4.5% increase for this year and next. the drivers are being recommended to accept that offer, which would end the two year long dispute during which they've taken 18 days of strike action, as well as refusing to work non—contractual overtime . a work non—contractual overtime. a woman has been jailed for admitting to sending a threatening message on facebook in the wake of the recent rise in the wake of the recent rise in disorder across the uk. 53 year old julie sweeney sent the following facebook message on the 3rd of august, saying don't protect the mosques, blow the mosque up with the adults in it. a judge has encouraged prosecutors to consider charging offenders who played central roles in the recent disorder in parts of the country, a charge that carries a maximum sentence of ten years. the australian department of foreign affairs earlier confi

and ex—chairman of the tory party, sirjake berry. jake berry. and i want you sirjake berry. and i want you to tell me what happens next here. please does hanan wall have something to give back? >> he looks behind. >> he looks behind. >> get ready britain, here we go . >> get ready britain, here we go. it's not far

so are the tory party as well. so are we looking at a similar position?ean, in a way reform has done better because you have finally won a reasonable number of seats at a general election. do you think that we are currently in a similar era of change, >> i don't, alistair, i think i think things are completely different these days. i think more and more of the spotlight is on politicians, is on parliament. we live in a social media age where people are continually looking at their phones for updates, political updates . you know, i've seen updates. you know, i've seen people in the street who instantly know who i am, and they ask me to sort the problems out. i get young people coming up to me now, you know, the gen zs, as we call them, young people coming up to me and saying, you know, we support reform uk and i think people are looking for something a little bit different. they're fed up of being promised one thing by the political parties and getting another thing. and now we offer that sort of change. and he touched on it, you know, before we came on a

and so i trust the at least the centre part of the tory party and the tory party, you know, kemi badenoche, i think has previously written some very sensible things about the maternity gap and, and those issues. so there are a lot of tories i would trust to do a cross—party consensus about what constitutes extreme misogyny. but the core of it is if you are inciting violence against women because they are violent, because they are violent, because they are women, rather than because you're inciting violence, that is a different crime. hating someone because they're a woman is different from just hating them. full stop . from just hating them. full stop. >> all right. rebecca, thank you so much for your thoughts. that's rebecca reed. she's an author and broadcaster. well, what do you think, gbnews.com/yoursay? you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up is labour's approach to the small boat crisis, working as 19,000 people have already crossed, 5000 of which in the last month since sir keir starmer was in charge. next extreme mis

robert jenrick said he wanted to breathe w life into the tory party.dged he had a mountain to climb to stand in the race. he had to get the backing of 10 conservative mps. the who says 175,000 people die annually from extreme heat in europe. deaths have increased in the region by 30%. the who warned more people would die from heat related symptoms as a result of global warming. the secretary has called on hugh edwards to hand back the salary he earned from the bbc after being arrested on child abuse charges. the bbc continue to employ him for five months after he was arrested. hamas has called for a day of furious rage to mark the funeral in doha of its political leader, haniyah, assassinated in in. his body has been taken outside the city where he is being buried in a simple ceremony. mourners attended the funeral prayers at the state mosque. officis from arab and muslim countries have been attending. hamas and iran have vowed revenge on israel which has refused to confirm it carried out the attack. israel claimed responsibility for a rocket strike in

i think, frankly, no one's really interested in what's going on in the tory party.hilated in the election. they seem completely invisible. we're the only people that are actually talking about immigration. priti patel seems to have completely given up on it. she's proud of her record of emboldening mass immigration between 2021 until now, and she won't even leave the echr. these are things about which actually the majority of the british people, i think, are settled. and so i just think they're they're out of touch . and the they're out of touch. and the real issue , chris, is what the real issue, chris, is what the labour party is doing with taxpayers cash. we're now on a sort of an escalator ever upwards of union demands for ever bigger pay rises. and that's going to be a catastrophe for the uk's finances. that's going to be a catastrophe for the uk's finances . and we're for the uk's finances. and we're going to pay. would you do richard tice? >> what would you do? would you not honour the pay review bodies? that's the five and a half. the biggest number was the

>> not really, because when you look at the state of the tory party now, it's a question of evenin party's a question of even in opposition, they're in such disarray and so fractured they can't even be a functional opposition. and when you look at the kinds of obstacles that the labour party has to face now that they're in leadership, it is fertile ground for a unified party to really exploit and magnify every mistake they make. but you will not be able to capitalise on that if you are so fractured. so right now you have a situation where there is no leadership that has the kind of rhetoric or position or platform that unifies the party. >> did you take a lot of interest in the labour party leadership when keir starmer was elected? yes, i did. who were the other candidates who stood against him? >> was irrelevant to me because, well, so you didn't take that much interest? >> i don't know, i don't know. i was once in my job to be interested. >> i'm invested in someone. i then start scrutinising. just then. >> but people in the united kingdom do not take opposition parties leadership elect

don't you think it's a good thing maybe that suella braverman may not now be won't be leader of the tory partyene. >> no. it would have been very good for the labour party if she was the leader. actually, she would have been a very easy leader to take down. but if i can offer some advice from the point of view of someone from a party which was until very recently in its wilderness years, i think it is very important that the parliamentary party is represented by a leader thatis party is represented by a leader that is somewhat close to them. it doesn't have to be exactly the same. yes, sure, someone who can command the confidence of the parliamentary party, and in that i think suella would have a very, very big problem. >> in that interview, though. kwasi kwarteng isn't she laying down a challenge to the next leader? there are six of your former colleagues standing, and she's saying to them, unless you take on reform and neutralise nigel farage, you cannot win the election in 2029 because the temptation might be to go into the middle ground where the lib dems and labour are. >> so my view on t

and i see that's going to happen in october, probably after the tory party conference.kes questions, somebody may ask that question . i shall wait ask that question. i shall wait to hear what his answer is. i don't have an answer, but it's an interesting thought, isn't it, that a senior contender, one of the frontrunners to be the next leader of the party, really wants to have a former leader back? >> that that hasn't tended to happenin >> that that hasn't tended to happen in recent history. you've got to go back into the past. hold on. i mean, it happened with alec douglas—home that ted heath brought him back. it happened with william hague. but william hague hadn't been prime minister. it's not usual. >> well mr mr cameron was brought in by david rishi sunak rishi sunak so that that took everyone by surprise. i think and wasn't necessarily hugely successful. no, but it does make the point that it can happen. even a former prime minister can be pitchforked into in this particular case he was put in the house of lords, you know, cameron was. >> so you can get somebody i

and the tory party and every political party should be supporting them in doing that.bout underlying trends or various changes in policy or various sort of large changes in britain over the last sort of 60, 70 years, whether that's migration or that's the approach we take to policing or community cohesion, all the rest, that's for a separate time. the focus now should not be in trying to justify these bigots as they riot. it should be actually trying to clamp down on it and allowing the people of britain to go around the streets safely at night. >> tessa, i agree, i concur with william and i thought some of your questioning. yes, i'm very civilised. i would never riot, heaven forfend i thought some of your questioning around two tier policing, which we've seen you subject both your guests to, almost slightly mendacious. i mean, were you asking those questions in 2011, when 3000 young, angry men were arrested and 2000 were charged ? i don't and 2000 were charged? i don't remember too many white tears spilling onto pillows at night over whether we had two tier policing t

. >> she sets out her vision for what the tory party would look like under her potential leadership . also tonight, we leadership. also tonight, we reveal labour's secret plans for illegal immigrants that something could risk inflaming tensions even more. >> plus, the family have been subjected to horrific racist and islamophobic abuse on social media. >> the brothers, who allegedly punched armed police officers, have got a new lawyer and on my panelis have got a new lawyer and on my panel is broadcaster and columnist esther krakue. we've got the director of the centre for migration and economic prosperity, stephen wolfe, an ex—labour adviser. matthew laza. and you don't have to look very closely here. can you guess who people thought was at the plymouth protest last night? yeah, have a look. a little look at that. remember a familiar face there ? potentially. all face there? potentially. all right, get ready, britain. here we go . we go. it's a gb news exclusive for you . it's a gb news exclusive for you. labour's secret plans for illegal immigrants. next. >> good evening. i'm sophia

>> well, she's probably she may be popular with the tory party electorate. n't think she's necessarily popular. popular with the electorate as a whole. and the point i'm making there is that if the tories carry on the infighting, and that's what happens if you have kemi badenoch and robert jenrick doing it, you're going to have a problem. priti patel has an opportunity. if we're looking for a candidate who might break through the middle, has the opportunity of actually unifying both the right and the left and getting the votes of the membership. now, i know she had a chequered career at the home office, but at the moment, if you look at the various candidates who are there, you either go, tom tugendhat, left wing although he's leaving the echr thing is a bit odd. that's not. or you go mel stride james cleverly there safe pair of hands, then you've got pretty. you may have the attack dog that in fact that, susanna's just talking about. >> that's a good point. that nigel makes is that if priti patel does fall into that category of attack dog, insofar as, you kn

from £60,000 to the average driver to 70,000, criticism from the tory party. no strings. ove fast and fix things when she became transport secretary just five short weeks ago . the tories, she says, were ago. the tories, she says, were happy to see taxpayers pay the price as strikes dragged on and on and passengers suffered. and believe me , passengers did believe me, passengers did suffer. the aslef strikes were really hard . they were mainly really hard. they were mainly solid when they went on strike. often commuters couldn't get around the country. i certainly felt that living, living outside london, getting to work. so this is a good news for commuters, people trying to get around the country, maybe not so good news for those who worry about how pubuc for those who worry about how public money is being spent. the tories are saying helen whately, the shadow transport secretary, saying that this is a no strings deal that will be paid for by taxpayers and passengers in the future, because there's no demand to improve working time or anything. all the strings that were at

its express columnist carole malone, journalist benjamin butterworth and ex—tory party chairman jakeerry. oh yes . and what did this man do yes. and what did this man do wrong ? wrong? >> bloody warm, isn't it ? >> bloody warm, isn't it? >> bloody warm, isn't it? >> get ready britain, here we go . >> get ready britain, here we go. police! the streets are not our tweets. next . tweets. next. >> very good evening to you from the newsroom. back to patrick in just a few minutes. time first, though, we'll look at the headunes though, we'll look at the headlines at 9:00. a mother and a daughter remain in hospital tonight after being stabbed in central london. their conditions aren't thought to be life threatening and a man has been arrested following that attack, arrested following that attack, a local security guard told us earlier he heard a scream before tackling the knifeman in leicester square. >> i jumped on him hold the hand, in which he wasn't having a knife and he just put him down on the floor and just hold him and kick the knife away from him. and then a couple of more people jo

so, yes, it would certainly damage the tory party if that happened. , parties tend to get over that sort of damage. i mean, i see much longer term issues of a party that has first got to rediscover not its right or its left, which is what it's obsessed with at the moment. but with its discipline. without that, it's, you know , it's not going to do anything. >> however, does the former home secretary, who has had a great career in politics, really want to join reform uk, which is seen by many as a fringe outfit populated by nutters and extremists ? extremists? >> oh indeed. yes, i forget what david cameron said, but he said something similar about ukip closet racists and things and oh yes, and we were. we were swivel eyed loons. i well remember that, so yeah, that, that that is fairly common that that level of abuse. but what you've got to ask is what are people doing? that's the really big question. now, you know, we've got a higher percentage share of the vote than the lib dems. since then, we have almost doubled our membership since then. so clearly

of onto migration disclose is not just from the far right, but from the main stream within the tory party and the labor party as well. i'm at these protests but being signs that say stop debates and that's a direct quote from the previous conservative government. and then you got labor coming in. now they did scrap the refund policy, as you mentioned, but they did that often kind of claiming that it was because the policy was ineffective. they way and challenging the premise of the principle of that. i mean, that could treat it back in the as the secure the security of britain's board is, is to the top priority as well. so we've seen a continuation of this and violent rhetoric from the main stream, and that's played a key role in emboldening these actors and creating the atmosphere that we're seeing in britain at the maintenance shop. now let me ask you to pick up on a point you were making and also a point that katie was making just now when it comes to this rhetoric that is demonizing of migrants and migration. when you hear a top tier politicians in the u. k saying, stop the boats are

don't you think it's a good thing maybe that suella braverman may not now be won't be leader of the tory partyne. >> no. it would have been very good for the labour party if she was the leader. actually, she would have been a very easy leader to take down. but if i can offer some advice from the point of view of someone from a party which was until very recently in its wilderness years, i think it is very important that the parliamentary party is represented by a leader thatis party is represented by a leader that is somewhat close to them. it doesn't have to be exactly the same. yes, sure, someone who can command the confidence of the parliamentary party, and in that i think suella would have a very, very big problem. >> in that interview, though. kwasi kwarteng isn't she laying down a challenge to the next leader? there are six of your former colleagues standing, and she's saying to them, unless you take on reform and neutralise nigel farage, you cannot win the election in 2029 because the temptation might be to go into the middle ground where the lib dems and labour are. >> so my view on th

it was all on the tory party, but now it's five weeks into this government. it's labour's fault. g mckinlay, former tory mp, stood down in the last election. no known to our viewers as the bionic mp because yes, of course he lost arms and legs to sepsis. welcome back. in an emotional moment on the day of the election was called. he's given an interview to me for our podcast. the gb news called chopper's political podcast, in which he talks . which he talks. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> do tune in, but he talks. thank you john. he talks about why people are on the streets and, and talks about the fact that not everyone is far right. and here's what he had to say following the riots since the dreadful killings in southport last week, craig mckinley, are you comfortable about the blame on the far right.7 a lot of viewers, listeners to gb news are concerned about the idea that the government's been willing to say it's just a far right and it almost says if you're worried about immigration, it's a far right issue, when, of course, as we know, it's a wider issue and a deeper issue tha

they promised the tory party in 2010, 2015, 2017, 2019 to cut net legal migration.ned. in fact, it went up by a multiple figure. we 600,000 came through the door. more more of the right than leaving in 2023. priti patel was asked about that in this press conference. she said that context does matter and it's too lazy to speak about numbers . she lazy to speak about numbers. she talks about will you will you not have many nurses or doctors and the like? i asked that question for gb news viewers, and here's what she had to say. you're seen as the most right wing candidate of the six candidates to replace rishi sunak. you're proud of your grass roots conservative base, but you won't apologise for record net migration under your government's watch. you didn't vote against the smoking ban when you had a chance to . how when you had a chance to. how can you reconcile and win back reform voters in that position? and if you were prime minister, would you remove a portrait of tony blair? >> margaret thatcher is going straight back on the rule. let me just let me just get tha

and she's now, like, favourite, isn't she, amongst the candidates for the tory party? air to say at the moment, isn't it. and there's , there's, there's and there's, there's, there's some saying that she's going to alienate the party or divide the party up more other people who think she might collect votes from the working class and, and really, what they want to do is get a load of votes from reform. but she's also faced a number of, well attempts to knock her reputation down recently, a treatment of civil servants who, i would have thought if they're called civil servants, they're the ones who's supposed to be civil. you can't expect it of other people. she's not the civil servant, is she? she never claimed it. great point. so apparently she can be a bit. >> she's the uncivil servant. >> she's the uncivil servant. >> she's the uncivil servant. and, she's accused being bullying and a bit curt with people, which are i think are surprised. absolutely no one is. it's more a reaction. yeah probably. but, but that's also something that a lot of people like about her. and s

nigel farage cannot join the tory party.uestion is relevant because rishi sunak was asked twice by me when he was prime minister, would you allow farage to join? he said twice. we were a broad church, didn't rule it out. well, i can tell you now that all six of the of the candidates are replace. rishi sunak have said they don't want him to join. tom tugendhat said no yesterday. mel stride said no yesterday. mel stride said no yesterday. mel stride said no to gb news today. jenrick said. robert jenrick has said no. james cleverly hasn't answered our question on this but had said no on the 10th of june. kemi badenoch says no and priti patel says no. they all don't want him back, in which is interesting because although it might be a multi—car pileup, as henry hill suggested there from conservative home, but what? where does the party go? it can't afford to have a split right? and beat labour. so does it. how does it get into the kind of farage 4 million who voted for reform uk by not doing any deal, even discussing farage, doi

is in crisis and the tory party in crisis. contest with six candidates. i'm joined now by folk, the falkirk tory councillor, james, tell me your surname. bundy. bundy with a very nice touch. i'm told it's an english tartan tie. >> lindsay tartan. so english origins. >> very good. is the reason the scottish party is down to five mps out of 57 north of the border, because of the continuing crisis in the english tory party in england. >> well, i think that was certainly a factor having that tie to us going up to the election. but it was also what were we offering the people of scotland, whilst we retained five mps, our vote share halved in scotland and in the central belt. we've got defeated in about 16 out of 18 seats to reform party uk wide. we lost 26 deposits. 16 of those were in scotland, so this was not a good election for the scottish conservatives of what was concentrated in 5 or 6 areas of scotland. we won five seats so it looks good on paper, but look below the surface and that was not a good election. >> why, if the to

positioning herself to the sort of liberal side of the labour party is, is a bit of a shock to the tory partyf the labour party by saying it was too high and she's saying it wasn't. should she apologise? >> i mean, should she apologise? yes. both. both. emma, do you think she should apologise? >> i think it's difficult to say whether or not she should apologise. let me just say very clearly. i think this is a bad pitch from her. >> yes, i'm surprised by it. because it's a sort of politically stupid. naive for her to say. totally, >> do i think she should apologise? i don't like this culture of public apology. do i think she should feel sorry and responsible for betraying the will of the british people who have voted time and time again and in poll after poll after poll, have wanted to reduce immigration. and the tories did not do that. and had absolutely not do that. and had absolutely no control over our border and failed repeatedly to get the situation in hand, do i think she should feel sorry for that? yes i do. and i think it is, going to play very, very badly with the tory base if she's

she's giving it to gb news i think she's giving a challenge here to the tory party. middle ground where it thinks labour is, or does it try to mop up disaffected support in the reform uk party? and i think that's where she is clearly saying to the six candidates for to replace rishi sunak, you've got to go after reform uk, you can't have a split right wing vote going into the 2029 general election. she's saying work out how to appeal to those people. and she would say that's committing to withdraw in part or in full from the european convention on human rights. being tougher on immigration, being a low tax party. that is the suella braverman , demands the suella braverman, demands she wants to see fulfilled by the next leader of the party. and it's a challenge, really, to those who might follow mr sunak. do they go after the middle ground where they get squeezed , ground where they get squeezed, maybe by the liberal democrats and labour, who are now quite strong in areas where the tories were strong before last month's general election? or do they try and deal with t

no go areas for white people, the labor policy, i'm the tory party and all areas of our establishment are responsible for creating this crisis. and i think the suggestion that the fall right is exclusively to blame for this obvious thing. this action did in, you know, it was instigated by thought, right? groups tell me robinson support is organizing through social media and all the channels. i think, you know, but to say that these groups all um, exclusively responsible when the audiology on which that roy is, is one that is shed by march at the bridge establishment is totally wrong. and i think you see that and politicians attempt to distance themselves from what's going on, you know, test alma wouldn't even use the time is lama thought it'd be a or racist and his initial address to the nation. so i mean, all the time fall, right. i might think that, you know, there's a sense in which we have to all the people that are responsible for this. they come from outside the towns where this happened. they come from outside the political establishment. when in truth, the coal is coming from

he's talked about even taking over from the tory party. 'll see that when it happens. but that's his idea. he himself i think i was covering the brexit party, european election campaign. it was may 2019 when euro candidate in in the west midlands , martin, in in the west midlands, martin, i was with him in merthyr tydfil. i was with him for two weeks, the only journalist there with him, and he was heckled. he was told, we don't want you here. there's a bit of antsiness about nigel farage, whether that was a personal thing about the brexit party, i'm not sure, but i think it's fascinating. i think you are going to see these eruptions of councillors defecting, and what that means is you've got this local network routes are being put down by this, this, this nascent party. >> and of course, ukip did that back in the day. >> from 2015 onwards. they got that ground game. they knew where their vote. >> before that i would say 2012, 2012, they knew where their vote was. >> they had a local organisation and all of that time consuming, laborious, so

i've got journalist and broadcaster benjamin butterworth and the former chairman of the tory party, jakeerry. carole, i'll start with you. yeah. as keir starmer got his priorities all wrong here. policing tweets and not the streets completely. >> you know this is this is why we have you know you've had cooper says we've got to we've got to respect the police. you know we lost respect for these long before these riots. and i'm not talking about the guys that were facing up those riots last week. i mean, all respect to those guys. but i'm talking about the guys at the top here. you know, our police forces. it's visibly woke. it's politically biased. it's virtue signalling. instead of tackling crime, you know, you have you have we are told that there's enough coppers to go on pride marches and to, to do the macarena on the streets of whatever city it's happening in. but there's not enough cops to go and arrest people for knife crime, you know, why couldn't the cops have acted this swiftly to protect those young girls in rotherham? why couldn't they act swiftly on knife crime? but it appears