joining us now legal affairs correspondent for npr nina totenberg.they achieved seeming like a nonpartisan body. >> it doesn't matter from all practical purposes if you could say, oh, they only divided along ideological lines "x" number of times. because on the big cases, they mainly divided along ideological lines. >> right. >> the only thing that made the difference in the census case was the chief justice. >> and so, richard, we were discussing this. you were reading through some of the rulings over the weekend, some light reading. what jumped out at you? >> nina, i was curious about your reaction. if you read the decision, first the majority decision and then the elena kagan's dissent on the gerrymander case, i thought it was extraordinary. i'm not an expert like you are, but the chief justice said we're not getting involved in this, it's too political we don't have the competence to judge and then you had eleanor kagan sent out an angry, basically sad, saying american democracy is in peril. what was your take on that? >> she really meant that to