we are talking about camp newman and camp towanda. we ended by talking about issues of diversity and inclusion. can you talk about that on the camp newman perspective? >> yes. this is what all of our camps are trying to do. creating an open environment. camp newman, everything we do comes back to what we call our philosophy of care. we build community and model acceptance and role modeling for everyone. we treat each person as if they were created in the image of god. this is something we highlight throughout the summer. we make sure that our kids and staff really know that this is supposed to be a community built for everyone. that means everyone in the bay area. anyone who is interested in having one of these jewish experiences, we want to be able to be open and be the place where we can be welcoming and make people feel comfortable. sometimes that means that you might feel different from the other kids around you but we are doing as much as we can. we have talked about how we could we -- how we could be doing more and we will to be