my name is arnold townsend, reverend arnold townsend. let me just say that -- and with all due respect to the folk in the audience, i'm not here for juliet because juliet doesn't really matter. it could be any african-american in this town and they could find themselves in the same waytion. i'm here because of racism, unfairness, and injustice. ~ same situation i'm here because i have been in this town, right here, 50 years and i have to ask young couples at my church when they become pregnant, do they really want to raise a black child in this town. are you prepared to do that? because it's not going to be fair. i want to know, for african americans, when does double jeopardy attach to us? it has never attached to us historically and we see another time for it to not attach at this commission meeting tonight. what is the difference between what you're doing in a suit and tie between what you're doing in suit and tie in san francisco than what the good old boys did down south 50 and 60 years ago when they didn't wait for the justice syst

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back with me bill nye, jim tillman and fran townsend. question here i may put this to bill nye first. from sherry rosenbalm who's tweeted me. one expert said if pieces that big came from the airplane they would be too heavy to float. no mention of that since. pretty good point. 70 foot by 70 foot. >> we're all speculating. what if they're rafts? what if they're gas-filled wings that broke off and float because the kerosene, the jet fuel is less dense than water? but i want to ask jim a question. would you agree that when stuff goes wrong on planes there's two things that make things go wrong on planes. maintenance and then a series of small things that just get out of hand. one thing leads to another. and then it gets away from you. >> i've never heard of an aviation accident where one thing made the difference. as a matter of fact, it's almost always a series of events. and if you change any one of those items along that chain of events no accident. so yes, you're right. it would have to be some kind of a series of things that happened

fran townsend, let me start with you. it seemed like yesterday everyone was trying to push back on the idea this could have been an act of terror. but today the cia seemed to put it back into play and said, look, we just don't seem to know what has happened here so we can't rule anything out. what is your understanding of where this investigation is going? >> look, piers, i think the more facts we get the kind of crazier and less clear, murky that it seems to get. now we think the plane not only changed direction, that the transponder may have been turned off and that it actually crossed over the country of malaysia on its way back in the wrong direction. now, there are conflicting reports. but you can understand when the director of cia is asked have you absolutely ruled out that this could be terrorism, why he would say no. there are stolen passports, tickets paid for with cash at the same travel agent. i mean, all of this leads them to want to look at things like are there -- and they need time to do it -- are there re

i really want to echo some of the things reverend townsend said earlier. it really feels as if ~ this is -- that juliet is being held to undue scrutiny. you had your bite at the apple. you came to a decision. she paid her restitution. and i have to question what the motivation is behind this particular resolution. as reverend townsend stated, this is a city that has time and time again shown that it has clear disregard for african-american residents and how it treats us and where it puts us. and the fact that this body in particular -- and i don't know if you know the statistics and as a professor of social justice and racial equity, i will tell you that african americans and people of color are held to higher scrutiny in these kinds of bodies across the country. it is another indication of the institutional racism that exists in this country. and for this body in this city which does say that it is a bastian of diversity which we know to not be really true based upon these kinds of investigations and this kind of scrutiny of african americans and other pe

are saying if you're stopping at the fourth and king why do you have to stop at the fourth and a townsend those are all preblended decisions that were made so i think now that we've at least open caltrain's end we've made policy commitments for the blended systems that works for our stakeholders we welcome the due diligence necessary with that implementation to figure out and king we're committed to looking at that we'll continue to provide resources and continue to work with tjpa i'm sure we'll have the perfect answer in 12 months >> thank you to the board members and also for caltrain's for the presentation. this is clearly where the board wants to spend a considerable amount of 7, 8, 9 it's great to have the presentation from caltrain and the planning department. we're know this is dialog we need this is important to the region if we don't you'll work together so that's why is. agencies are working together. i look forward to further conversation we're going to open up to the public >> we have one speaker. >> welcome thank you for coming. >> director harper to your point i have a daugh

. >> joining me national security analyst fran townsend, member of the skai and dhs external advisory boards. general marks, when you look at what these russian troops have done, seizing two airports, surrounding this television station, it seems like coup planning 101 these are the first steps people always do in any part of the world when they're seizing a area, correct? >> it's not a coup, it's an invitation, anderson. i think we can state clearly, albeit the administration has not come out and stated this with this degree of certainty, that the russians have invaded the ukraine. remember that crimea is a part of the ukraine. there isn't any additional sovereignty that crimea enjoys beyond what the ukraine has right now. so this type of activity by russia clearly is an effort on their part to ensure that their influence isn't waning. clearly the united states cannot by itself take a leadership role. but there are activities that we can take and we can encourage with our partners in nato, primarily through the partnership for peace, and that kiev can call for, which is through part

new work between townsend and jessie streets is expect under to be complete by the end of the week. it is all part of a plan to help muni performance time. it is part of a pilot project on church street and according to the examiner, the lanes reduce travel times by about three minutes. >>> happening today, fast food workers plan a protest on what they call wage theft. mcdonald's is stealing from them by note paying other time and removing hours from their time sheets. local protesters plan on rallying on 25th and oakland and that starts this morning and earlier they filed lawsuits in mission given and new york -- michigan and new york and they say mcdonald's does not allow them to take breaks when the restaurant gets busy. >>> and suvs and cadillac sedans call for issues with overheating breaks. the new recall is proof that the gm has learned from their mistakes. >> we are bringing them forward and resolving them quickly. we will take care of these customers and continue to apply what we have learned. >> the combined recalls has put it in there and hasee merged from bankruptcy. >>>

jim golio as well, fran townsend. let us know what you think. follow me @anderson cooper @ac360. >>> usually on day six of the search the grid is smaller, there's general sense of where to look. this thing just expanded exponentially. got a whole lot larger. up next we'll dig deeper into the electronics behind today's news. there's all different systems that a plane uses to communicate. primary radar, secondary radar, adsb system, acars system. we're going to look at all of that, all the different ways a 777 can communicate with the outside world and how jim sciutto demonstrated those can be silenced. later what it takes to locate wreckage at sea. why other searches succeed and why this one could be the most challenging one yet. ameriprise asked people a simple question: can you keep your lifestyle in retirement? i don't want to think about the alternative. i don't even know how to answer that. i mean, no one knows how long their money is going to last. i try not to worry, but you worry. what happens when your paychecks stop? because everyone ha

cnn analyst fran townsend, advice tore president bush, tells cnn that is unlikely. >> if you look at the northern route, would have had to go close to the pakistan/indian border, probably one of the best defense it's in world. and over the united arab emirates which also has incredible air defenses. i'm not sure where that takes you. i couldn't imagine it navigated that far and skirted all those air defenses and the theory is you landed where. to load up with some sort of weapon. but in fairness to israel, it's a tiny country, it's not as though -- you know what i mean, they take this air defense system very seriously because they don't have a lot of time to react. until you know where the plane is, do you know it's in the indian ocean, until you've accounted for it, it's understandable that they'd go to a heightened state of alert. >> also this morning, how they continue to ask how no one on the ground witnessed anything when this jet disappeared. simon austin is in new york talk to someone who told us they think they saw something flying over the gulf of thailand. saima joins us, t

and even more infrastructure south of townsend street on the journey to downtown this area has the promise to become a significant core of the city and this transitional issue has put san francisco on the cutting-edge of the urban movement and available to transform our waterfront with the transition of the embarcadero freeway and hopefully, we don't have the earthquake of the previous and/or to force this conversation but a right earth shaking infrastructure investment in this location and that in and of itself should cause us to relook at the area. this study susan will walk you through will look at the additional issue like the studies to date but more importantly to explore and reenvision this area and look at a better city for tomorrow i'm going to turn it over to susan >> good morning directors i'm susan i'm from the city of san francisco of san francisco's planning department. i'll talk about the feasibility will study. i want to state and thank those involved in laying out the caltrain's and tjpa and high speed rail and california harriet authority and the various departments in th

brown, arnold townsend, van jones, many other people from the baker senate. what happened in regard to this matter in terms of you're asking for an explanation of it as to whether or not there is some sort of hidden agenda. i can tell you there is not. and let me just go -- give you the history of what happened here. ~ so we can all understand and i can do what i have to do. we had ms. ellis essentially admit to and plead guilty to a couple of things which, one, two counts of influencing a government decision in which the official has a financial benefit. and also another count of violation of a section which prohibits any city or officer or employee from making a contract in which she has a financial interest. and then there was another one having to do with inappropriate conduct. this committee had gone ahead and prosecuted her for those ethical violations under its powers to do so. and had entered into a stipulation with her giving her, and which she accepted certain putsv, which were the extent of what we could punish her for, for these particular violati

now, you're looking at cell phone video of a tree that came down at the corner of townsend and cedrick avenue. two cars damaged when that tree blew over and there was enough blowing over ocean beach and san francisco. public police shut down the roadway to get trucks and sand. blowing sand is a problem near the beach when it gets windy. >> side to side with these big gusts of wind, sometimes, they'll push you left to right into other lanes. if you feel that gust of wind, too, don't put any hard turning movement in because once that goes away, you could be going hard left to right. >> jeff ranieri has a look at that when he joins us and kind of unusual to have high winds like this. >> yeah, we have a storm system across nevada. getting closer than expected to california and that's helping to create tight wind gradient. right now, winds coming out of the north at 17 miles per hour. the north, one of the most dangerous directions of wind because it's very dry, so our fire threat is up there. you can see some of the highest sustained winds from santa rosa back towards fairfield. from the t

brown, arnold townsend, van jones, many other people from the baker senate. what happened in regard to this matter in terms of you're asking for an explanation of it as to whether or not there is some sort of hidden agenda. i can tell you there is not. and let me just go -- give you the history of what happened here. ~ so we can all understand and i can do what i have to do. we had ms. ellis essentially admit to and plead guilty to a couple of things which, one, two counts of influencing a government decision in which the official has a financial

david gallo who co-led the search for flight 447, fran townsend is here, former homeland security adviser and 777 captain, les, joining us as well. les, you've been flying for nearly 30 years. as you look at this, given what we know, the transponder was off, as we said, that went off at two minutes after the last communication at 1:19. 1:21 the transponder goes off. we know the 1:37 a.m. acars system that was supposed to send a message did not send a message so that acars system, last one was from 1:07. you talk about this compartment below the cockpit where the system is located and we've got this tour of it here. can you talk to us about what you think was most likely to have happened here given the complexity of this whole system? >> well, that's a good point, it is a complex system. as pilots trained on this airplane, we don't know -- we know what the system does for us but to know every detail down there, i mean i'm considered an expert. i don't know every detail. i don't know every box. i would really have to study some more engineering and schematics to really know what everything

with mark weiss, security con sut stant, also a former 777 pilot along with peter goelz and fran townsend, and cia external advisory board. jim sciutto is with us as well. mark, based on the pictures that we have seen, what you are hearing, does this look, does this feel like this could be wreckage from the plane? >> it certainly does based on what we found in the air france search off the coast a few years ago. everyone is hoping that this is a real, confirmed lead. >> peter, do you agree with that? >> i do. their best people have identified this geographic area. let's hope that the satellite has picked it up. >> fran, let me play for you what the australian prime minister tony abbott said in making this announcement. >> new and credible information has come to light in relation to the search. the maritime safety authority has received information based on satellite imagery of objects possibly related to the search. the task of locating these objects will being extremely difficult and it may turn out that they are not related to the search for flight mh-370. >> but fran, you know the aus

. >>> let's bring in fran townsend. she's a member of the cia's external advisory board.rom the director of the cia saying he's not ruling out terrorism at all, not at all. he said i know you're pretty well plugged in, but what's your sense on what's going on? we obviously don't know, but what are you hearing? >> wolf, there's no question that the cia is working with its ally intelligence services around the world, the cia here in the united states has got tremendous relationships throughout that region and you be sure that they're talking to those folks to find out what are they hearing. they'll also be working with their technical intelligence counterparts. so the nsa. you'll work with -- especially in this case where you see satellite imagery, wolf, they'll be working with the national geospatial folks who analyze classified satellite imagery. the chindz have turned this over. it's not clear that the chinese would have revealed even their best satellite images. there are techniques by which you can let's call it fuzz the mop, right? so it's not exactly clear the streng

fran townsend, you're on the advisory board of the cia.ks, it's increasingly looking like this was not some sort of mechanical failure, this was looking like it was man made. >> i think that's right, wolf. but we have to make a distinction even among a man-made event, that doesn't necessarily mean terror. it may mean that somebody took control of the cockpit, but that could be a pilot. we saw in egypt air 990 where the pilot intentionally downs the plane. we're not saying that happens here bs we don't know. it does look like if this plane was in fact in the air for a number of hours after the responder went -- was turned off, you got to presume some control of the aircraft by somebody capable of continuing to fly it. >> how do they determine that? what are they doing? take us a little bit behind the scenes. you were the homeland security adviser to president bush. you've had extensive background in the justice department in these kind of investigations. what are they looking for if they are working under the assumption that a person took t

killed another member of that club pled guilty to involuntary manslaughter for fatally shooting steve townsend. it happened in 2011 while the two were attending a funeral in san jose for another club member. the shooting was captured on surveillance video. ruiz is expected to be sentenced to three years and eight months in prison. >>> a san francisco man pleaded not guilty today to charges of trying to run down two police officers. 50-year-old jeffrey ruiado was arraigned on charges of using his car as a deadly weapon. in an incident last monday that ended with a police officer suffering with a gunshot wound to his upper arm. ruiano's attorney says the bullet was fired by the officers partner. san francisco police say they haven't been able to locate that bullet and at this point ruano is not been charged in connection with the shooting. >>> san francisco is in a constant and expensive battle to clean up graffiti. now new tactics are being looks at to go after the taggers. david steven son tells us it would hurt the taggers in their wallet. >> reporter: workers today scrubbed and painted up gr

>> albert townsend used to be one of them.le find shelter and eventually pecht housing -- permanent housing through the grass roots group people -- [ inaudible ] mayor gray is trying to tackle the issue sending vans to pick folks up off the streets and coordinating buses so those who refuse shelter at least have a warm place to sleep at night. but with the family shelter at d.c. general already at capacity from last season, the city scrambled to abide by the law and get other families, including children into warm shelters. so hundreds have stayed in d.c. and maryland hotels, dozens at makeshift shelters and city recreation centers. >> just living like that, that's not for human beings. we homeless doesn't mean we're animals. >> reporter: the harris family among a group of folks who sued the city over unsafe conditions at the

killed another member of that club pled guilty to involuntary manslaughter for fatally shooting steve townsend. it happened in 2011 while the two were attending a funeral in san jose for another club member. the shooting was captured on surveillance video. ruiz is expected to be sentenced to three years and eight months in prison. >>> a san francisco man pleaded not guilty today to charges of trying to run down two police officers. 50-year-old jeffrey ruiado was arraigned on charges of using his car as a deadly weapon. in an incident last monday that ended with a police officer suffering with a gunshot wound to his upper arm. ruiano's attorney says the bullet was fired by the officers partner. san francisco police say they haven't been able to locate that bullet and at this point ruano is not been charged in connection with the shooting. >>> san francisco is in a constant and expensive battle to clean up graffiti. now new tactics are being looks at to go after the taggers. david steven son tells us it would hurt the taggers in their wallet. >> reporter: workers today scrubbed and painted up gr

those who want to repeal the healthcare law to former democrat, turned republican congressman, billy townsend ought to be a law. >> it's actually the opposite happening right now. we obviously just in january suffered an enormous cut to agreat medicare service that serves the oldest, sickest, are poorest women in america, coming out of the obamacare act. a cut in services for women in the obamacare act. >> so, how does this get explained to people? this law itself is disproportionately hitting women, particularly older women. i mean, maybe you can kind of spell that out. >> i brought a white board with me to give you an idea. >> i love you dearly. carl doesn't put as many words and figure on his. go ahead. >> first of all, 14% cut in the home health benefits. the benefit that serves the oldest, sickest, poorest seniors in america, 60% of whom are women. this is a cut in the service they receive for their home-bound. too sick to leave the house. 14% has gone into effect out of obamacare this january. it will affect over 2,100,000 women who receive this benefit. it will put 40% of the agencies

david gallo who co-led the search for flight 447, fran townsend is here, former homeland security adviser and 777 captain, les, joining us as well. les, you've been flying for nearly 30 years. as you look at this, given what we know, the transponder was off, as we said, that went off at two minutes after the last communication at 1:19. 1:21 the transponder goes off. we know the 1:37 a.m. acars system that was supposed to send a message did not send a message so that last one was1:07. you talk about this compartment below the cockpit where the system is located and we've got this tour of it here. can you talk to us about what you think was most likely to have happened here given the complexity of this whole system? >> well, that's a good point, it is a complex system. as pilots trained on this airplane, we don't know -- we know what the system does for us but to know every detail down there, i mean i'm considered an expert. i don't know every detail. i don't know every box. i would really have to study some more engineering and schematics to really know what everything does down there. >>

the president himself set it in motion with a speak at townsend state university in 2010 when he referredo these groups as enemies of democracy. how big -- you know, that's like blowing the whistle and saying go get them, boys. the president of the united states is ultimately responsible for the tone he set. but we need to find out who was carrying out these illegal acts and this committee hearing where elijah cummings throws a fit at the end of it. you know, the democrats know what this is all about. they know it's about a naked political grab. misuse of the irs for political purposes. and it's their party that's doing it. and so they are going to try to do everything they can to object i on skate and distract. >> emails from lois lerner that has not been complied with in looking at yesterday's hearing, that was the first day that i thought that a possible smoking gun, the motive, trying to get behind the citizens united and the whole fundraising expose. whether people lead it or beforehand. these emails were pretty damning i thought. here is what i don't understand. today i got up and a

let's explore this further with fran townsend, former homeland security adviser to president george wbush, general spider marks, military analyst here at cnn, u.s. army former commanding general, and mary schiavo, cnn aviation analyst we've been watching throughout the week, former inspector general of the department of transportation and helped so many families after 9/11 on those flights. let's get into michael oren's idea that maybe that we should all be on heightened alert about this being out there. fran, what are your thoughts on that? >> well, if you look at northern route you would have had to skirt very close to the pakistan-india border. probably the best air defenses in the world. you also would have been very close if not over the united arab emirates which has incredible air defenses. i'm not sure where that takes you. i can't imagine that it could have actually navigated that far, skirted all those air defenses, and the theory is you landed where? in iran? to load up with some sort of weapon? >> i'm guessing israel has their eye on iran in some way. i don't know. but the

david gallo who co-led the search for flight 447, fran townsend is here, former homeland security adviser and 777 captain, les, joining us as well. les, you've been flying for nearly 30 years. as you look at this, given what we know, the transponder was off, as we said, that went off at two minutes after the last communication at 1:19. 1:21 the transponder goes off. we know the 1:37 a.m. acars system that was supposed to send a message did not send a message so that acars system, last one was from 1:07. you talk about this compartment below the cockpit where the system is located and we've got this tour of it here. can you talk to us about what you think was most likely to have happened here given the complexity of this whole system? >> well, that's a good point, it is a complex system. as pilots trained on this airplane, we don't know -- we know what the system does for us but to know every detail down there, i mean i'm considered an expert. i don't know every detail. i don't know every box. i would really have to study some more engineering and schematics to really know what everything

this was by dora townsend. this is in foreign affairs. wrote when western legal technicians are asked about these programs they them as adismiss sideshow of institutional say building. audience surveys suggest the shows have made a powerful impression, comparing their own police, lawyers, and judges to the more virtuous ones on he mentionslevision another show, crime scenes. he says producers receive hundreds of photos calls asking authorities to look into -- i just want to broaden its slightly. what we talk about when we talk about the afghan medium? we have a strong panel to talk about this with us. bergen, director of the national security program of the new american foundation, author of manhunt, the longest war, the , ama bin laden that i knew personal friend we work together at cnn and have been friends for decades. next to him, the director of the .fghan analyst safety committee in his own right, a distinguished afghan journalist and patriot. he has worked for the washington post, new york times, pnr. he also understands the wester

fran townsend, i know you're well plugged in. what's your instinct tell you right now?t's the latest you're hearing? >> wolf, between the zigzagging formation, the change in altitude, i think the end of today's sort of takeaway on the story is, i think most investigators have come to the conclusion that this was not a catastrophic mechanical failure. they're now focused on who was in the cockpit, how many people and what was going on there when the transponders each get turned off, 15 minutes apart, when the plane is making these turns, when it's changing altitude. could it have been a struggle? yes. but that's just a theory. you don't know if it's one individual or several individuals involved. we certainly don't know what the motivation was. >> let me bring richard quest into this conversation as well. the report that lithium batteries were in the cargo hold, we know other crashes have been linked to lithium batteries. what do you make of this development? >> i think it's a very interesting other piece of the jigsaw to put on the table because a fire using lithium bat

mmtc has been leading at the task force that former commissioners, i mean congressman starr and townsend are co-chairing. i think it's been very successful thus far and another making the rounds up on the hill, to. so, professor yoo. >> i think that we are witnessing something similar to what we saw that led up to the 84 cable act. nipped and tucked afford up to the point where we saw ancillary rulings being struck up and down by the court and eventually we decided if there's a different phenomena we need to do it. a true revelation is designed for technology. .com is a lot more consensus on what not to do than on what to do. everyone says let's get rid of silos, the content, which is to start a dialogue on how to fill the my prediction is i do think there's an emerging consensus to separate what is traditional economic revelation which much more competitive world, much less necessary and shift the dialogue to the filling certain social obligation, disaster recovery, images response to law enforcement, disabled access just to name a few, universal service, and look at these mechanisms an

during the bush administration, it would have been the homeland security council, headed by fran townsendre how exactly the obama administration, i believe that's under the usauspices of e nsc, which is now the nss. so it would be monitored by the nss. >> but they basically are waiting for intelligence to find out, was this a malfunction or something we should be concerned about? >> i think it's still such an evolving situation, i don't think anyone really knows anything at all. >> one would hope they're using all that electronic intercept technology to find out everything they mobile can. one of the significant things about this crash -- and we're assuming the plane has crashed, this incident, is you're not -- there's not a lot of debris -- no debris has been found on the surface of the sea. normally when a plane comes down, you find debris. even the air france flight that went down not atlantic a couple of years ago, there was a whole bunch of floating debris. why are we not finding floating debris and what does that tell us. >> and you talk about this from the view of the assumptions m

. >> richard quest and fran townsend. thanks to both of you. fran, i'll start with you.l with the passports. could be a little bit of a red herring, something that sounds very relevant to people like me who aren't as included in but to someone like you, you weren't and the thing that causes me concern is the fact that these two tickets tore both of the bogus passports come out of the same travel agent. kuala lumpur, people forget going back to 9/11, kuala lumpur was a hub. so if 2000 -- they planned, they met there for the "u.s.s. cole" attack. al ham dekuala lumpur ash and this will be very relevant and they're going to look at that travel agencys are they're going to look at the airport and at the passports. there's a lot of leads to be run down. could be a red herring, we don't knee. but having them both come out of the same travel office, that will be important. they'll look at that. now we go to the forensics so far. the official word it was an oil slick that u.s. -- for example, the piece of debris though thought has now turned out to be part of a cable. it very di

this is a letter by doran townsend. are you here by any chance chance? you are, excellent.s in foreign affairs relevant to this. doran wrote for for unama and koppel. when western legal technicians are asked about these programs they typically dismiss them as peripheral and propagandistic of state-building at audience surveys suggest the shows have been a powerful impression comparing their own police lawyers to more virtuous ones on fictional television. viewers have expressed hopes for a cleaner and more efficient justice system with a new sense of urgency. and he mentions another show crime scenes and says producers received hundreds of phonecalls asking authorities to look into the violations highlighted in the shows. so i just wanted before we get into this and now we will to broaden it slightly. what do we talk about only talk about the afghan media? we have a very strong panel to talk about this with us. on my left, immediate left peter bergen director of the national scare to program at new american foundation author of manhunt, the longest war, the osama bin laden