. >> chair and commissioners arnold referring arnold townsend. >> president of the economic council i'll say a couple which things to you number one we appreciate the redistricting i certainly do it has been cumbersome we've been split between two stations has made it difficult to get things done but once again that is not the major issue i think the major issue the problems we have in our community can't be solved unless we work together (clapping.) and we say that thank you but we say it all the time but i mean work together and get it done that means everything has to give a little bit and take a little bit if we're going to get it done we're going to have to do some things as at police department may not be the way to do it but the coordination from the community is not going to kill you in the community we're going to have to recognize it or not we're going to have to find a way to work together if this thing is going to be solved we're waiting to hear from chief in a recommendation that will help the department i'm especially concerned buyout sensitivity a report came out yesterday

one of them that is coming to mind that's been constructed is 178 townsend street. it was a power plant, the electric and power company. the shell remains, some of the features were removed and there's a good sign addition of a contemporary design added to the building and resulted to not impact the resource. >> there was no appeal on that but they were trying to get a mills act determination for that building if ire recall correctly and that it was an historic resource and the tags to keep up for the historic resource but what they really wanted to use it for a high level and keeping the shell building in place. in that case there was the core of the building on townsend was built it was a building in height in function. but the building in its entirety remained. is that correct? to differentiate that building from the current where we are at on stuart and embarcadero. >> yes, as i recall. it was years ago now. i didn't go on this particular project but there were smoke stacks on the building. >> smoke stacks are not in vogue these days, is that correct. >> i don't

the great pete townsend. who is going to tour against them right? right here? >> yes, it will be another one of their final tours i went to the original in 1982, awesome. all right, steve thank you. >> see ya later. >> coming up: superbowl lost, victory for seattle marshawn lynch. what happened to beast mode? >> plus, what does jawn mean? >> jawnn. >> slang word in philadelphia, now part of tourism c >> good morning, i'm howard eskin, villanova on way to top seed in the ncaa torn. , just keep blowing up teams what's really weak biggies conference. last night, win number 20 against marquette. going to the wells fargo center r archie, just roll the ball up the floor then there he goes, shoots a three he scores. archie, with the three. and marquette, in the yellow right there now these guys are tough. they didn't win. but they're tough. that's matt car lean owe. now, he comes down, gets bloody nose, but still comes back in the game. villanova wins it 70 to 52. temple, they continue on a roll. they won their four straight last night will, coast-to-coast and the fou

that was mary townsend who spent her early years on love yet square. her father was a congressman from pennsylvania and owned a good-sized house. she married richard townsend then president of the year e-pierie-pennsylvania railroad. they moved back into the old house which was not large enough. she had an addition put on, a large dining room. at the time, the thing to do was to have large dinner parties. the intimate teamss of the cave dwellers were passe. that dining room proved not to be large enough so she went looking for a larger home. she said her eyes on hilliard's house across the street. mary had this incredible phobia. she believed if she ever moved into a new house, she would die. bill your house -- the house was still not large enough to hurt -- for her entertaining needs and she worked with the architects and took the house and encased and expanded it. when you look at thisat the original house, is somewhere inside. in certain closets, you can still see the original house. around the back, you can still see part of the original face. mary

things be brought up and the community is hugely important to be part find our training and reverend townsend brought a great point that different community we have 10 stationed and the community within the stations all the people need to look like the people they work with doesn't have to be absolute but revocations i'm sure you'll get our responses we'll continue to work with the community. >> will it be in writing. >> it will be in writing and you'll have it in writing we're on television. >> thank you, chief. >> thank you, chief >> on the note on the hiring please give you can't hire officers nails they apply so, please recommend people we've got to put them in the pipeline and get them to the academy the greater chance we have young men and particularly young african-americans on the force we're going to have to work to change attitudes about the police and recommend the staff you've got to get people into the pipeline or they've not be in the force. >> i called you investigator marshall commissioner marshall. >> i'll say that to respond to reverend brown i appreciate the time we got 11

john townsend said poth can cause thousands of dollar in damage from broken rims to bad accidents. they try to swerve to avoid the pothole or they hit the pothe a then try to brake to avoid more damage and then somee will rear-ending them. >> which is why ddot is trying something new this year as they patch holes with e old-fashioned asphalt mix they he used they're also haulg bright orange buckets of a new expensive mix that bonds with groundwater. a side-by-side comparison to see how well it holds up. >> r his crews are markw blendingh whi paint so they can watch how well it weather over the next few months because it costs three times as much as the old stuff. even though it's more expens if you don't he to come bac out here to maintain that that's a win for us. >> but he says the realy is some roads are so cracd and pock marked only repavi them will truly get rid of the pey fix the problem. this treatment that we're doing is more of a band-aid. which brings us back to that pothole on 14th stre in northeast. neighbs have waited at least 315 days to get it p yeah. ddot told the i

you've got to take it seriously when the fbi is. >> fran townsend, shawn henry. thank you. >>> a verdict that caught everybody by surprise, at least the quickness of it after deliberating for 2.5 hours, the jury in the "american sniper" trial returned a guilty verdict. what they saw to help them make up their minds. i talked to two of the jurors. you'll hear from them in a moment. were you surprised how quick it was, ultimately, about three hours, i think. >> i wasn't. because, in my heart, no. i wasn't. i wasn't surprised. when i heard all the other jurors speak their peace, i was not surprised. x absolutely helped me quit smoking. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. chantix helped reduce my urge to smoke. some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. some people had seizures while taking chantix. if you have any of these stop chantix and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history

fran townsend thanks for your insight.s. >> thanks carol. >>> the brutality of isis has sparked a debate for media outlets around the world. should any portion of these videos be shown on television? we at cnn are not showing pictures of isis killing the jordanian pilot. there's no need to spread such ugly propaganda and we figure you get burning someone to death is brutal without us having to show you pictures. other media outlets feel differently. i'm not saying whether they feel right or wrong. they chose another way. fox news decided to show a still picture of the pilot on fire. here's why from anchor brett baer. >> the reason we're showing you this is to bring you the reality of islamic terrorism and to label it as such. we feel you need to see it so we will put up one of these images on your screen right now. >> all right. and then they kept that image up for quite a long time. let's talk about that with cnn senior media correspondent, brian stilter. good morning, brian. >> reporter: good morning. >> it is a difficul

the katrero strip mall a chase bank and wells fargo bank and up in the zip gay building on 8th and townsend a union bank both of the banks are half-mile away one across the 101 and one in a different neighborhood there's not necessarily within easy walking distance of the stuart site they walking talk the walking distance one quarter mile and half a mile out there's a less of the banking options the vision is to take into account ante fretting the project site and see the completed lack of banking options in this part of potrero hill and the dog patch so there you go you can see the bank in the top northeast corner those red dots are a.m. - atm this bank will be the only one serving the area i want to run to visuals your provide that shows where the commercial tenants are in this building uncan bank in the top urban right hand corner and further down 17th is phil's coffee a pedestrian walkway moving around 17th street and twirl and dip an ice cream parole i'm not sure you've had the opportunity to try twirl and dip this had been they're first brick and more take care store a nice edition to

. >> i want to bring in fran townsend. you were a homeland security adviser to george w. bush. i'm not sure we made this clear. let me read you exactly what the secretary of homeland security said on cnn yesterday. he said if anyone is planning to go to the mall of america today, they've got to be particularly careful. fran, what i heard that, i thought, wow, that's a pretty stark comment from the man who runs homeland security for the united states. in your experience, what goes into making that kind of blunt statement? >> you know, it's interesting, john. what we saw was an fbi bulletin that went out as well over the weekend that seemed more tempered than that and often times when one of these cabinet members is on television speaking off the cuff and not from a precisely crafted statement, it sounds much more dire. i think they're in a difficult position. they've got to try to make this balance. look, al shabab is a serious organization. we saw the terror threat and terror act on west gate mall in kenya. what the fbi is telling you is they don't have specific intelligence ab

they found him dead in a house on a 600 block of maryland court in townsend early this morning. they are performing an autopsy and have not made any arrests. >>> friends and family remembered carly mall at a funeral service today in chester county. from chadds ford attended millersville near lancaster. police say her boyfriend killed her last week. prosecutors charged him with first-degree murder saying he beat and strangled her in her dorm room. he's from kennetht square and will be back in court this week for a preliminary hearing. >>> tragedy in lancaster county. a farm accident is to blame for a young boy's death. >>> plus it might be frigid outside but that wasn't enough to stop these people from stripping down for a good cause. we'll sblan. explain. ring ring!... progresso! it's ok that your soup tastes like my homemade. it's our slow simmered vegetables and tender white meat chicken. apology accepted. i'm watching you soup people. make it progresso or make it yourself you say avocado old el paso says... zesty chicken and avocado tacos in our stand 'n stuff tortillas . (re

at 30 eileen murray checks in gilbertsville and tony in townsend delaware, coming in 29 degrees. newark, delaware, 27 checked in by delores lee. there could be some thin spots in the clouds allowing those temperatures to drop but overall really not bad night. take you outside right now here in center city philadelphia. we're looking at the ben franklin bridge. just partly to mostly cloudy skies. tonight we'll keep it dry. that will be the trend into your sunday and really the story right now is those temperatures. compared to this time yesterday we're five to 17 degrees warmer. so that's that warmer air mass that is moving in. it sticks around for one more day. 35 at the airport. 30 in millville. 36 at the shore in wildwood but there is some colder air across new england. 26 in albany that's an arctic air mass that will eventually move southward in time. and it's arctic front that comes through our region later tomorrow into monday. that's will be our next weather maker just some clouds streaming into the area right in you all the snow still across upstate new york. we'll keep th

. >> john townsend says potholes can cause thousands of dollars in damage from broken rims to bad accidents. >> they try to swerve to avoid the pothole. or they hit the pothole, and then try to brake to avoid more damage and then someone will re end them. s d-dot is trying somethi new this year as they patch holes with the old fashiod asphalt mix they've used for years. crews are also hauling bri buckets, a new more expee mix that bonds with grou water. >> we want a side by side compon to see how well it holds up. >> his crews are marking the new blend with white paint so they n watch how well it weathers over t next few months becae it costs three times as much as the old stuff. >> even though it's more expens if we don't have to co back out here to maintain that then that's a win for us. >> but he says the reality is some roads are so cracked and pockma repaving them will truly get rid of the ground water and permanently fix the proble >>s treatme is more of a band aid. >> which brings us back to that pothe on 14th street and northe city records show neighbors have waited at least 315 day

fox's robert townsend walks us through this incredible video. >> reporter: this surveillance video clearlybus rolling down the street on the night of december 30th when all of a sudden a guy wearing a hooded sweatshirt and dark pants pulls out gun tuck in his pocket and fires several times into the moving bus. the bus' windows you can see instantly shattered. police say a 15-year-old girl and her boyfriend jumped out of their seat into another seat as bullets and peaces of glass fly all around them. the girl hit in her leg paramedic rushed her to the hospital in critical condition. the male vick tum was that hurt. after the shooting police say the shooter ran from the crime scene near 39th and prospect. the bus driver was praised forgetting the injured girl to a safe spot and then calling 911. >> investigators believe the shooter was aiming for the girl's boyfriend who was sitting next to her on that bus. >>> in your money how does a $29 airplane ticket sound? pretty good. frontier airlines launching two new non-life stop routes from philadelphia and celebrating with one rather spectacular

let's speak to troy townsend from the anti-raceist organization kick it out. this looks like something back in the 1970s, doesn't it? >> it does. unfortunately it's continuing to rear its ugly head in our game and unfortunately it's now english fans going abroad and impacting on the society there. a lot of focus is on the fans. i'm not quite sure any has spoken about the individual who has been assaulted and also been abused as well. somewhere he is now at home or at work and could be in a lot of distress as well. there's two sides to everything that goes on here. >> he seemed to show remarkable restraint, almost as if he couldn't understand why he wasn't being allowed on. >> he probably never met anything like that and all he could think was i want to get on the metro and go home. when there is a mob of people and i know whatthey are a small minority. when you're looking to go home on a metro, that is a mob and a mob of people that stopped him and assaulted him. i can imagine it was a very difficult situation for him. the good thing is that there's footage. n

. >> hi, this is phil townsend in fort worth. conditions north texas is not used to seeing.of slow moving. we'll show you the exact consist aenss of what we're dealing with here. >> a frigid start to the week around here. 11 below zero this monday morning with wind chills around 25 below zero. we have cold sunshine right now. we are above zero. around 3 degrees. >> in grand rapids michigan we set a new record low temperature of 10 degrees below zero this morning. that blew the old record of 4 below way out of the water. >> i'm kendall morris in crossville tennessee. more than 18,000 in this county are still without power. crews are covering the place trying to clear away debris and trees covering the roads. they're trying to get the power turned on so people can get back to their homes. >>> spring is underway. the washington national s are in vieira. pitchers and catches have been working out for a few days now. position players report tomorrow. dave owens has made his way today all. >> welcome to vieira, everybody, and all i have to say is -- look at that. 83 degrees. i thi

star struck fans snap few shots and selfie with him during promotional shoot on townsend street.m have described yo and marketing video for the upcoming season spring training starts in a few week. >> seahawks quarterback sherman having a pretty tough week until this morning when his girlfriend gave birth to the couple first child. seahawks star tweeted my son sure does know how to make an entrance. 2-5-25 his number it's a coincidence maybe or is that just if meant to be. i'm ecstatic. his jersey is 25 and participation was hot topic before the superbowl because the due date was so close to game day and many wondered what might happen. later today he tweeted again. haven't felt anything better than this. thank you god such a blessing. superbowl floss perspective. >> even little baby would have handed off to lynch. even the baby would have known. the obvious. can't let it go. >> forget about catching nicholas can tiger woods make it through 18 holes these days in all kind of pain withdraws again who wants to try a new burger? that's good! it's really good. very juicy. that's melt

i want to bring in our chief national security correspondent, jim sciutto, philip mudd and fran townsendk of the president's strategy as he outlined it today? >> look i served under the bush administration. i was nominated by president obama. let's take this out of washington. we should do what the adversary doesn't like and we should avoid what they like. they do not like to be referred to ace murderers. why have they declined to put video of the murder of that american woman a week ago on the internet? it's because they don't have an explanation for murder. by contrast they want to create a war between islam and christianity. anything we can do to avoid feeding their narrative, that is allowing them to say the americans are the christians we are the muslims, i'm not a democrat, i'm not a republican what i would say in this instance i agree with the president. don't do what they want us to do. don't refer to us as anti-islam because they will pervert that to say that they are defenders of islam against the american christians. i think what he did was okay. >> fran you were president bus

fran townsend you were homeland security advisor to president bush but you also worked in the justicetment. i want your reaction to what we just heard from this criminal defense attorney. >> you know for a criminal defense attorney to walk outside having only the complaint and what would have been only a brief meeting with his clients before the arraignment is sort of dangerous, right? he admitted you heard him saying to most of the questions i don't know that i don't know where they were questioned i don't know for how long i don't know why he was going to turkey. there's more he doesn't know than he does right now, and other than to stand up and say he is demanding that the presumption of innocence apply, he didn't really have much to say. that's a good reason not to have tried to do that little press availability. >> you think it was smart, tom fuentes, you are a former fbi assistant director for one of these court appointed criminal defense attorneys to go out, make all those statements? >> i don't, i don't think so wolf. if i can add, he's making accusations that the prosecutors

too late for a neighbor of sharon townsend. >> a person from down below had trouble getting up the hill just gave up. >> reporter: on route 1, the wall of this gas station was slammed crumbled to bits and pieces by a ga badge truck. trying to traverse this slick driveway. everywhere people woke up to glazed over windshields, burning a lot of gas between defrost and wiper action and a lot of calories, like a father and son. police were under orders to drive carefully and slower even to the scene of this accident. a bicyclist sliding on an icy patch. did any cops have any accidents? >> they did not have any accidents. we had a very good day. >> reporter: the final toll state police responded to 100 accidents and many more motorist aid calls. in south brunswick 18 kravp crashes. in parking lots two accidents, one that involved a broken wrist and a broken leg from slipping and falling. in brian thompson nbc news. >>> tree limbs covered in ice. big culprit for power outages. utility crews can't cut them down. a pilot program in new jersey ames to eliminate the issue. electric companies plan

continue to discuss this and also the wider terrorism issue with cnn national security analyst fran townsend and former homeland security advisor, she is former homeland security advisor to president george w. bush. also with us the gentleman who serve as president obama's security advisor for countering violent extremism from 2011 to 2013. you just came from the summit. the president talking about the fact that he doesn't use the term islamic extremism because he does not want to give the terrorists the credit doesn't want to give them credibility. is that a compelling argument do you think? >> i think it's a complicated issue, but to a very large extent they are trying to appeal to religiously legitimate terminology with jihad martyrdom and references to islam. to the extent we play into that by leveraging that kind of terminology, calling something radical islam, for example, we are giving them a propaganda coup. >> fran let's talk about what paul was touching on the idea that maybe the president's speech didn't convey the kind of urgency that perhaps many americans feel when they see the

. >> fran townsend shawn henry. thank you. >>> a verdict that caught everybody by surprise at least the quickness of it after deliberating for 2.5 hours, the jury in the "american sniper" trial returned a guilty verdict. what they saw to help them make up their minds. i talked to two of the jurors. you'll hear from them in a moment. were you surprised how quick it was, ultimately about three hours, i think. >> i wasn't. because, in my heart, no. i wasn't. i wasn't surprised. when i heard all the other jurors speak their piece, i was not surprised. fact. fast-acting advil is designed with an ultra-thin coating and fast absorbing advil ion core technology stopping headaches and other tough pain. fast. relief doesn't get any better than this. advil. ♪♪ with pain relief, we're all at the corner of "relief is good"...and "fast relief is better." good thing walgreens gets you in and out in no time... so you can find relief fast, with solutions like advil. at the corner of happy and healthy. your eyes really are unique. in

well the suspect dwayne townsend turned himself in after that video was released by police.th aggravated assault and other offenses. police are still looking for two people who were allegedly in a getaway car. >> a 93-year-old world war ii veteran is sharing stories his temple university. william thompson was part of the buffalo soldiers african-american soldier whose served with honor. today he gave his collection of photos and stories to the charles watson collection at temple's north philadelphia campus library. thompson's collection illustrates the discrimination buffalo soldiers in intond infantry faced. temple is welcoming the gift as we continue o celebrate black history month. >> turning to sports phillies position players took to the fields for the first time today in clearwater. >> that's right. jaime apody live in the "action news" sports center with more on that. hi jamie. >> hi, guys. pitchers and catchers working out since last week. about time the rest of the guys got there. today was the day. let's go live to jeff skversky in clearwater. we finally got our fi

>>mark: townsend is to not have the call be set out with an injury the first ounces 1967 they had two same all-star game. . >>darya: overexciting they're getting into the all-star game with the first ever kron 4 three-point shooter out we want to know also to and volume of more or kron 4 from holiday you do that with men called the dew is any thing you go to you to win will attend as anything close to a lawyer to give us the light until the part of this part of we're working on gathering of our kron 4 view was talents will be back with more and a few moments. >>mark: is a modest move clean dozens of shipping companies and workers zillion at the docks from one to be idle for five days. >>darya: this loss and a dispute with a seven shipping companies and union workers

and understanding and welcoming serena venus, madison, taylor townsend so many players of color, sloaneere, that are out there at the top, making their mark in the sport, everyone wants to embrace them and to cheer them on. >> congratulations on your new position and all of the things you will bring to the sport. it is a tremendous opportunity to meet you. i am thankful you made time for us. >> thank you very much. >> catch more of katrina's major career and work in a video feature our team put together that's how hyped up we are about her. msnbc.com, go check it out. >>> up next israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu denying reports he may can sell his controversial speech before congress, but should he cancel? >>> and this. >> my sense is the supreme court is about to make a shift. >> president obama speaks about same-sex marriage and possible change in in the high court. it's one of the stories we thought you should know. and be sure to like the "news nation" at facebook. startup-ny. it's working for new york state. already 55 companies are investing over $98 million dollars and c

this is the 600 block of maryland court in townsend.ay shawn wallace was found dead inside the home. an occupies is needed to determine the cause of death. >> w.lay ton johnson passed way yesterday. he served as mayor of georgetown from 1959 to 1998. as town crier he would stand on the courthouse balcony on return day two days after voting to announcer how sussex county voted. >> police in camden, county, new jersey need your help in identifying two armed robbers. take a look at this surveillance video from a luk oil on admiral wilson boulevard january 30th. police say moments before walking into this gas station this pair robbed a man at gunpoint on a bike at the intersection of somerset and rariton streets. if you recognize the men you're under to call camden county police. >>> a bank robber may be on the run, but police say he was caught on camera. gloucester township police are hoping you can help them track him down. investigators say this surveillance video shows michael taggart robbing a bank on tuesday, if you know his whereabou

she has given her first big interview to matt townsend.h paula. >> she was straightforward. she did not shy away from talking about the troubles the company has had. she did not try to sugarcoat it. she said she is here. she has ideas already for the brand. betty: what are her big ideas? matt: the edginess will stay, but not as sexual and suggestive. she wants to take on the hot button social issues. maybe not be provocative and how they talk about things that are important. betty: that seem to be the cornerstone of their brand. not as creepy. what is her relationship with doug? matt: she was recruited by him. there was a plan in place for them to stay at the company. he was going to be her mentor. she talks to him on a regular basis. she did not get into the personal stuff. he is a confidant of hers. betty: issue where he he is going to continue to create trouble and derail the headlines? matt: she thinks because she got his support that he will not undermine her. he will probably try to make noise, but he has her support. it is beneficia

. >> matt townsend, thank you but -- thank you very much.trading, scarlet fu is looking at some of the big movers. what do you think? >> i want to start with that sellers. apple will be pricing later today and will sell $5 billion, a five-year floating-rate. netflix just announced a plan to sell $1 billion of senior unsecured notes. a negative outlook because of those plans. what is notable here is these companies are adding debt to preserve their overseas cash hoard and also taking advantage of low interest rates. let's move on to casino shares. their eighth straight month of gaining revenue decline. you see declines of at least four straight days. >> thank you so much. that does it for today. for tomorrow, we have a nobel prize-winning economist on obama's budget and europe's is austerities fight. we will talk to him. have a great day. ♪ >> live from bloomberg headquarters in new york this is "market makers." >> taxes on corporations and top earners. more money for infrastructure and education. president obama sends his budget to capitol h

let's get more with our cnn national security analyst peter berg en philip mudd fran townsend. starr's report. the coalition wim launch this offensive to try to retake mosul, including a lot of iraqi kurdish ground troops american troops in an advisory capacity. is it accurate to say that there would be no u.s. combat troops on the ground if that operation were to begin? >> wolf i think the administration and the pentagon are going to try to make the distinction between those who actually go forward in tactical units in the fight and those who stay behind the line and advice. barbara made the point about how unusual it is the u.s. military doesn't signal before a battle that it's going to go into. i think it's a little irresponsible that we're announcing that we are going to prepare kurdish and iraqi forces to go in six or eight weeks before they are going in. really you are telling the enemy we're coming. the mean will set traps and will have time to plan against us. so look regardless of whether or not we're going in i don't think it's smart to signal your intention. >> you a

let's go in depth with our national security analyst, fran townsend.eland security advisor to president bush. and our law enforcement analyst tom fuentes, former fbi assistant director. fran does al shabab have the ability to actually carry out a coordinated attack on a mall or malls here in the united states? >> you know wolf i think when we talk about do they have the capability we ought to define what we mean. if the question is do they have the ability to launch an attack like the westfield mall in kenya that we saw them execute, i think the answer to that is no. our intelligence our law enforcement, our warning system is just better now in the united states than it ever has been and while nothing is perfect, we have the sort of intelligence capability that that large scale an attack with that large a group to execute it would likely be i think detected both by state, local and federal law enforcement intelligence agencies. on the other hand we also know what a couple of guys with guns can do in terms of chaos and terror and murder that they can vi

. >> john townsend joins us on the phone. i saw your weather site. you said don't travel during a winter storm. if you have selected travel, stay home. that was the best advice you could give. what is happening now? >> that is still excellent advice and people should adhere to that. so far through mid-night last night, we had 12,559 calls for service. >> wow. >> in our footprint. and 5,987 were for battery related calls because of the extreme cold. you said it a moment ago, andrea. you said it's been a string of days of extremely cold weather and that is what we're seeing the tell tale signs of. this morning in the washington metro area, we received 1 six calls -- 166 calls, including 73 in maryland, 51 in virginia and 7 in d.c. and i can guarantee you that most of those calls are battery related. >> and where are you finding the calls? on the main roads, the side roads, people's driveways? >> well, this morning, people are still stuck in their driveway. and overnight, people are stranded on the side of the road because people are trying to make it h