i'm curious what your guest from towson university said. you are not getting more information from the public, you are manipulating the public more. host: thank you for the call. let's go back to her earlier point about how this all came about. because you are talking about the first news conference in 1913. as we said earlier, it was an inauspicious occasion for president wilson. he was asked a question from the new york evening post and he responded that the president replied crisply, politely, and with the fewest possible words. guest: well, look, it is true about trying to manipulate the public. all presidents are trying to do this. it depends on your view of the public, if you think the public can be manipulated like a lump of clay. edwin l. bernaise wrote those words 100 years ago when perhaps society and academia believed that the public was easy to manipulate. it is no longer true, i don't think, if it ever was, because there are too many sources of information. there is no one source. if all you have is state-run media, let's say n

more people literally you know we have matthew heimbach he's the white student union he created towson university and we had him on the show last night here's what he had to say what are your thoughts you were at the discussion with mr terry what are your thoughts on that remark. basically. i mean slavery was a whole a cause for african-americans in this country for hundreds of years ago when you're going to find slavery and i'm certainly not in the from the mr terry was doing was really were. the comment is kind of very interesting to think progress is focusing on one part of the discussion instead of really looking at what the panel was about you know what the panel was about was talking about whether republicans especially tea party republicans are reaching that should reach out to the minority community and whether that's a good idea so really the tara focus of the panel i think what we should focus on you know looking at ann coulter speech out of the comments made by donald trump is this idea on whether minority outreach is a good idea or whether the republican party to to win elections shou

going fine until the q and a section then scott terry a member of the white students union at to towson universityase for segregation when smith tried to answer things went south you pun intended. >> when douglas escaped from slavery i think ten years after he escaped from slavery he writes a letter to his former slave master and said i forgive you. for all the things you did to me forgive him for giving food and shelter and all of those things. that's classy can a capital k-k-k. joining me is judy gold. h a ri kondabolu a comedian and writer for "totally biased a with w kamau bell." i finally got you on this show. and then comedian negin farsad. who has been named fellow with the ted talks this year. we all know conservatives who are racist. but when they try to shake it, ityou just discover more racists. >> you have to criticize the person right after they said it. you want to distance yourself the way mccain did in 2008 election when someone accused obama of being a muslim. he shot back. >> john: admirablebly. >> the hope is you knock them down immediately or question and be critical. that's no