group, tradinga at 18.8 times reported earnings with the dividend yield of 1.69. apple obviously has a fatter dividend yield. buffet likes the regular in pop -- income. is surprising because so many at places ino look the market where there is some kind of value. we were talking about looking at strange metrics and trying to figure out what the true value is in stocks. you have people looking at apple saying it's 10 times and still don't want it, that is a pretty bold call. that could be a big factor going on, looking at returns at the inn of the year. scarlet: what other institutional investor do investors really focus on? soros, einhorn , thoseeenlight capital are particularly interesting. george soros has been vocal about his disbelief in the chinese economic strength. he thinks there is an undeniable hard landing coming there. ended inquarter that 2015, he had a big stake in stables and telecom. react how he is going to to china should be interesting. einhorn had his first solid quarter last quarter after two years of that performance. it will be interesting t