so yes, tradoc existed and tradoc was formed in 1973, interesting, story about tradoc came to be. it was pulled together, it stood up in 1973. where was the united states army in 1973? coming out of vietnam. and so the army as is coming out of vietnam at that point was sort of pivoting back to center your. the army leaders took a look at the army and said the army we have is probably not the army that we want to do with the soviet union because as were coming out of vietnam, although we had some unbelievable baroque activity and great courage on the battlefield, we had consumed a noncommissioned officer corps, in vietnam. we did not have a culture of training peer we did not have a modernization program. we had drug problems, race problems. our leadership said i need to change in the army. need to change it from what we have in vietnam to something to do with the soviet union. they change the army. that's what we are for, to drive change. as we went back into iraq in 2003, i was a brigade commander at the time. i tend to reserve criticism for myself and/or the organization unassoc