c-span: what's your relationship with transafrica and what does transafrica do? >> guest: well, i'm on the board of transafrica. transafrica's one of the--the few black organizations in america that pays attention to black issues outside of america and brings them to the attention of congress. it's a lobby--lobbyist organization. you know, randall, who--who runs it, was very instrumental in--in causing the embargo on south africa and therefore freeing mandela. and also he went on a hunger strike when clinton refused to allow the haitian--the haitians who were leaving haiti--to come into america. now those haitians who were coming here, many of them were killed when they went back to haiti. and, you know, randall almost died on that hunger strike in letting them in. so transafrica wants to get information about the diaspora, we'll call it. the black people around the world and what's going on with them. c-span: you also talk in your book about something called 'a margin of profit.' >> guest: yeah. the margin of profit. you and me, we're the margin of profit, all o

randall robinson what is transafrica?>> guest: transafrica is the organization that i began in 1976 to galvanize african-american opinion on foreign-policy issues, particularly issues that concern the black world, u.s. policy towards africa, the caribbean and latin america. so transafrica of course was the organization that used its incher mentalities to galvanize american opposition to apartheid and with the embassy arrests that we were able to organize the arrest of 5000 people and in the 1980s and 1984 and the next year, and with that working with members of congress. we won the support for the set of sanctions that president reagan vetoed and his veto was overridden by a republican-controlled senate excess of the work we did and the millions we organized to make a difference. that, coupled with the great work that was being done in south africa led to a new africa that we see today. but we have been doing that work over a period of time. i had been there 25 years when i stepped down. >> host: who are maxey and doris r