there is a transcanada pipeline running through right now.been about a dozen leaks mop not catastrophic leaks. leaks where there are moving parts. the pumps leaked as i understand it. but the state department is making a decision in non. i feel sorry for transcanada tip was a mechanical engineer, i worked in the energy sector. transcanada from my experience has a good reputation there their pipeline moves a product. they are trying to move towards in a free market and i respect that. they put forward a number of proposals as to where the route ought to go. as i understand it it was the state department that chose this route. that's problematic because there is another route. that the begs the question what about the other route. megyn: i'll give you have a last word why you can't pick a different route that would please your critics. >> through the environmental impact process, there were in fact eight routes looked at. at the end of the day the state department did agree with the route we are on right now. took an exhaustive look at seven ot

>> okay, first of all, this is coming from transcanada. they obviously have a very large financial interest in making those claims. those claims have been refuted by numerous people who have said they're greatly exaggerated. second of all, if you put $7 billion or $13 billion into clean, renewable, safe jobs, people don't want to be working on pipelines that can blow on oil rigs that can explode and dangerous jobs that are destroying our planet. you don't have -- it's not a choice of whether or not you're going to have jobs -- either just this job or no job. there's an option. we have options available to us. we already know how to create energy from safe renewable resources and we need to start doing it in this country. we don't need to start being slaves to more $5 a gallon fuel. >> thank you, daryl hannah. this is one side of this. james miller, a spokesman from the company who wants to build this pipeline, transcanada corporation. james, first i want to give you an opportunity in a moment to respond to the specific concerns that we jus

the canadian company transcanada wants to build an oil pipeline all the way from southern alberta allay down through the u.s. down to the texas gulf coast where all those oil refineries are. the problem is that environmentalists and some nebraska farmers and ranchers say that the proposed route for the pipeline passes over the ogallala aquifer, the water source for eight states. should the pipeline ever leak, the environmentalists say that could impact the drinking water for millions. >> we don't think that president obama's really going to let a foreign oil company bully a bunch of landowners in nebraska. i just don't think that's in if his makeup. >> reporter: but pushing for the pipeline are several unions. the teamsters, pipe fitters and others who would benefit from the thousands of jobs in the building that pipeline. >> we have a company that wants to invest private money into creating jobs in the united states of america. we can't get elected officials to create jobs, but we can get elected officials to stop jobs, and that needs to come to an end. >> reporter: on top of that, t

this company from canada, transcanada, wants to build a 1600-mile pipeline, essentially going north tos the country, starting in the middle up in alberta, canada, all the way down to the gulf of mexico. that path of the pipeline passes over something auld the ogala aquifer, the water source for eight mid western states and it has concerned environmentalists that that pipeline if it leaks could spoil the water source for all of those folks and the environmental groups that are against this are counting on the obama administration to say no and stop the pipeline. >> we don't think that president obama is really going to let a foreign oil company bully a bunch of land owners in nebraska. i don't think that's in his makeup. >> reporter: and what we've seen over the course of public hearings, the final public hearings that are taking place all over the midwest here in nebraska, they've been most contentious, another one set for here today, bill. bill: so can the administration say no to this pipeline when labor unions want it and you're going to get jobs out of it? >> reporter: it's a diffi