i see commissioner trasvina. thank you i realize it islet and the 4 of us expressed our viewos this i think because i disagree with my rapid clothes. 2 of them i want to make a couple points one is that -- people on appeals boards make judgments about experts all the time. and you have here 2 sets of experts or more. . you kr documentation on behalf of the community about the -- source and the extent of the of the pc e. we have on the other hand rely on our city experts. we had this is like three strikes the first time the dph person we hardly got somebody unprepared. not his fault. who he sent. unprepared. and people saying there would be communing. they med it sound there would be community. none occurred. so. and then we have the well, we did this testing and when the mount was not asking than i asked for something and he wills did the testing than i did no issue about the ground water that was stipulated the testing was done elsewhere. i consider that are and then -- i -- other aspects well is an appropriate

i will pass to commissioner trasvina. thank you. >> thank you commissioner lemberg and thank you for the presentation. i have three i think quick questions. it was stated that no windows face the property line. >> of course. >> my question is, that doesn't matter because your argument is from the new stairs you can see into your house through your window, so doesn't matter which way the windows face- >> it is only 21 inch wall, that's it. anybody on that deck (indiscernible) >> okay, great. thank you. my second question is, on the issue of the concealment for lack of better word, the tree isn't on the plans. >> exactly. >> is that-does that in your view-does that avoid the issuance of the-is the relevance about the impact on the tree, or is it on-what difference does it make whether the tree is on the plan or not? >> it invalidates the whole design review. >> tell me why. >> because winslow wasn't told about the glass wall or the tree. deciding that condition from him. >> what's the impact of not having the tree on the pl