i want to talk to you about up and coming leaders and technology. , travis kalanick cap herbert -- travis kalanick at uber. >> he is obsessed with his company, for him there is always another hill and mountain to climb. hard tos his team very do the impossible. he has a very long-term view of his business. energy.ot a lot of he's got a lot of optimism about the prospect. >> what about travis kalanick? >> he is somebody i don't pretend to know well. have you met anyone who isn't controversial who has done interesting things? >> having known three decades of leaders, do you think you have to be arrogant to be successful? >> four decades. lots ofdecades -- leaders make decisions about taking their organization in a direction that perhaps isn't wildly popular within the organization. overometimes, it spills into arrogance. i am different from how i was in my 20's. bill gates, he is very different from what he was in his 20's. everybody learns a lot in the pursuit. energyerstandable sometimes spills over to arrogance and it tends to get softer overtime. the only silicon valley company that gre

and travis kalanick at uber. sir michael: brian exemplifies the wonderful traits of a leader.e is obsessed with his company. for him, there is always another hill, mountain to climb. he pushes his team very hard to do the impossible. he has a very long-term view of his business. and he has got a lot of energy. he's got a lot of optimism. about the prospect. he is a fantastic leader. emily: what about travis kalanick? sir michael: travis is somebody i do not pretend to know well. emily: he is so controversial. sir michael: controversial -- have you met anyone who is not controversial that has done interesting things? emily: having known three decades of leaders in silicon valley, do you think you have to be arrogant to be successful? sir michael: four decades. emily: four decades. excuse me. sir michael: lots of leaders make decisions about going in directions that may be is not popular in the organization. and sometimes, it spills over into arrogance. i'm different from how i was in my 20's. bill gates, who is in his 50's, is very different from what he was in his 20's. everyb

and uber ceo travis kalanick who arrived at the event of course in an uber.the stars, taylor swift, katy perry, madonna, emma watson. >> you're forgetting the best dressed. claire danes lighting up. if the theme was fashion in technology, that dress killed it. taylor swift did pretty well as well. everything was silver and everything was metallic, which is i guess how the fashion world interprets technology. >>> coming up on squawk alley, the co-head of investment banking at goldman sachs david solomon an interview you certainly do not want to miss. let's check on the dow as we head to break still down 1% or 180 points. we'll be right back. ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ >>> let's get to the cme group with rick santelli and the san tell ly exchange. hello, rick. >> hi, carl. i'd like to welcome in my guest jim paulsen, and thank you for taking the time this morning. >> you bet, rick. thanks for having me. >> and it is fair to say, jim, you are bullish, and write some good pieces, and some