-- trayvon martin and eric brown. next stuff to harris, thank you. we all want to show some appreciation for the fact that you were able to envision the need for this type of forum and to put your money where your mouth was -- where your mouth is as people would say. i know you are very well thought of by many of the elected officials currently in office throughout the country who are students and -- of political science at howard and you have done a fine job, sir, and we are very proud to be students and associated with you. thank you for this program. [applause] when i was -- i received a phone call and he asked me if i would be the moderator of a panel and i asked him, please tell me what it is about, where it is, and what is going on and he said it is at the school of divinity at howard and i am like, i am in. tell me what the subject matter is and what we are doing and he explained to me as you see the title of what we are talking about today is transitioning from the moment -- from the moment to the movement. an

remember trayvon was in a gated community. all these affluent bourgeois african americans of today they like to think oh, that's just something that happened in the hood. well, it's happening more and more in these suburbs because they don't think you-all, your children, supposed to be there. and when they see your children, black and brown faces, they don't distinguish anything from the people who they think are bad people because they live in the hood. they just see black. they just see brown, they just see color. and in a matter of seconds sometimes two, they make a life-or-death decision and it's not just the police. it's the qausi police like the george zimmermans, neighborhood watch folks, making these decisions that our children are being taken from us. and then we look, and i'm talking from the heart -- then we look at what happened in south carolina. "time" magazine called me, billy, and they said, you know crump, you've been on these cases now all over america. we want you to write an op-ed piece about what this mean

remember trayvon was in a gated community. all these affluent african-americans there today, they like to think of it that's swrus something that happened in the hood. well, it's happening more and more in these suburbs because they don't think you all, your children supposed to be there and when they see your children black or brown faces, they don't distinguish anything from the people who they are bad people because they live in the hood. they just see black. they just see brown. they just see color. and in a matter of seconds sometimes, two they make a life or death decision and it's not just the police. it's the police like -- neighborhood watch folks making these decisions that our children are being taken from us. and then we look in a i'm talking from the heart. then we look at what happened in south carolina. time magazine called me bill, and they said crump you been on these cases now all over america. we want you to write a op-ed piece about what this means. what this video means. dr. harris. and so, i thought it an

another way of saying that is that trayvon martin could have been me 35 years ago.eporter: in 2014, the michael brown case sent further shock waves across the country. the charges held against the white police officer accused of killing brownwood dropped -- killing brown were dropped, triggering mass protests. more than 50 years after martin luther king's march in washington racial tensions seem far from being result. host: away from the u.s., some 8 million people have been affected by the 7.8 magnitude earthquake claiming over 4000 lives in nepal. foreign aid workers from countries including china, india, and the u.s., have arrived in , where 1.4 million people are in danger. time is of the essence for those trapped underneath the rubble and for thousands of residents homes are now makeshift tents. reporter: thousands of nepalese continue to camp out in open air after fear of aftershocks in the possibility that their damaged homes could fall any moment. for days, many have been too scared to enter any building. as this resident explained monday -- >> for suffocati

there is a tamir wright a trayvon, alicia thomas monroe bird. and the list can go on and on, in every community. you hear about black boys getting shot in the back we don't do anything with your position and stature. that will make somebody look a little further into the matter. if you just did anything and you hear people, thank god for the young people. i'm here, the cap stone howard university. and i know c-span is covering this stuff i want to give zhu to way young man who said, i can make a difference. it was a howard law school student who called my office when trayvon we can't get nobody to cover it, i'm out here saying, i'm calling all my friends in the media michelle. they're like okay a little black boy got killed. why is that newsworthy. you know that's almost like -- a little black boy's getting killed? i'm like, but it was a neighborhood watch. i hadn't even said anything about race or anything. i just thought, a neighborhood watch volunteer can kill an unarmed child, and nobody thinks it's a big deal, it was this little boy at howa

and stay in baltimore but switch to sharon black, a volunteer, a group founded after the death of trayvon martin. good to have you with us. this video footage depicted a city in chaos, rocks, debris thrown at police police cars, businesses on fire other acts of violence. what are your thoughts on the scene in baltimore as you had been outside speaking to the people involved? >> i think what the viewers have to understand or what they are witnessing is the rage and frustration of the young people in the city. who the root causes of rage have not been addressed, unemployment daily abuse, racism all the things that are placed. they feel anger and frustrated. this is the outcome that we were noticing. this is what we were seeing. in many ways we have likened baltimore to an outdoor present, in some ways we compare it for gaza if you go to the east or the west you see a heavy police presence. there's one cop for every two people in the city. it's like a police state. when we were at the protest... >> let me interrupt you. >> no problem. >> the police are beginning the press conference let's li

from the trayvon martin case. >> if i had a son, he'd look like trayvon martin. >> to the aftermath of ferguson where he made a perm vow. >> part of the reason in is different is the president of united states is deeply invested in making sure. >> reporter: the president pledged millions for police body cameras, a review of hardware and data on police stops, frisks and arrests. broken by demographics to be made public. the president pledged change. >> i'm not interested in talk or action. >> in early march they called for a broad overhaul of the criminal justice system. >> since then walter scott was shot in the back by a police officer in south carolina. and freddie gray died from spinal injuries stained whilst in the custody of police in baltimore. as a major si convulses, community leaders describe continues driving young people into the streets. >> there are people with nothing to loose. that is terrifying when you have nothing to lose, and you are willing to go out on video, on camera and carry out actions that you know could land you in gaol. >> 40 minutes away the president disg

you have ferguson trayvon martin eric garner. you're right on top of probably the most difficult issue in this country right now. >> i have to say it was a little bit painful. there was a moment when we were putting this show together after the trayvon martin verdicts, and we thought maybe the subject marry matter was a little passe. not that we were naive but maybe that we would react in different ways. and in the middle of the production ferguson happen: we realized that this was even though this is a fictionalized story, that these events are continuing to happen. and that we have a responsibility to have an emotional honesty to what we're doing, both for the audience that's coming to this, and hopefully getting an emotional impact out of this, but those who on a daily basis have to deal with these things. we can't treat it as entertainment purely. >> is there something that you want to say through the program or now about this? >> i can't pretend that there is not some of my opinions in this. i can never separate myself from

. >> remember trayvon martin? trayvon martin, say the words trayvon martin. let. >> let's stay on.ell you why there is a parallel. in trange martin, i urged the prosecutor if they were going to charge zirm with anything, it should be manslaughter. look what happened? the prosecutor because of politics, insisted on a murder wrap, the jury acquitted. if you want to be be politically correct and charge only murder that south carolina jury will acquit him. charge manslaughter. >> and murder. >> you can do both. >> in new york you can i'm not sure about south carolina. >> but i say that because political correctness affects the prosecutor's job in high profile cases charge manslaughter. he goes to jail up to 30 years without possibility of parole. >> he falsified the police report. >> do you want him to go to jail or do you want the possibility of acquittal. >> he shot the man in the back and there is no proof that he was in imminent danger for body. >> you don't have to be in imminent danger. >> you do. >> you don't. for a manslaughter wrap to hold you need a legally justified provocat

i look at trayvon and you have an eyewitness trayvon on top of george zimmerman ground and pound we hearying darren wilson's story is 100% accurate about michael brown's behavior. in this case you have a video. i look at this video and i want to cry for this man and his family because under no circumstances should any cop that's not under a threat be shooting somebody in the back. and people trying to sort of conflate the issues. and i see no area of conflating them. your reaction. >> i hear your point about the differences in every case. and obviously you're right. all these cases are different. there are no two cases that are alike. i think the point that people are trying to impress upon you, sean, is every time one of these cases happens and another young black man is killed and someone then says that this is an isolated incident, what happens first is we hear it's an isolated incident doesn't mean all cops are bad.oesn't mean officers are bad i agree, but the question is how many isolated incidents equal a pattern? and i think black folks and others who care about the humanity and d

trayvon martin's death launched nationwide debates about race relations. believes the power to eliminate profiling remains in with american the youth. >> i want to make a difference. i want to make sure i'm involved in what's going on. i want to make sure i'm involved in the change. >> trayvon was 17 when he was shot and killed by george zimmerman as he walked home from a convenience store in 2012. zimmerman was acquitted in the case as he claimed he shot the teen in self-defense. martin was unarmed at the time. >>> it is the latest scandal to hit america's security service. congress now looking into allegations that de agents, dea agents had wild sex parties with prostitutes. >> you'll never guess who investigators say was paying for those parties. massachusetts man lights a cigarette and his car goes up in flames. after he gets out of the hospital he'll be heading to jail. what police discovered at his home. jot. >> iain right now ultimate doppler still showing some lingering showers. depend ong where you live. we'll have the timing timing when the mess

we cover the trayvon martin conversation and try to pretend everything was okay when we know better.nnings police department was disbanded because of raceismracism. why are we shocked that there's racism in ferguson when we know they absorb racist police officers from jennings. the sky is not falling but the only way we'll get past this problem is acknowledging it's there. >> thank you very much. we chose to just show you a few of them that we thought made the point about how cavalierly and common this was in the ferguson police department and our belief those images brought this home in the way the words we heard over the past few weeks could not do. >>> next kim jung-un bringing back an old tradition. it's called the pleasure squad. the prettiest young women are available to him upon request. we have a special report on what this is. that's next. >>> 50 years ago this was the car of the future. a driverless car. the future has finally arrived. next, we'll put you in the driverless seat. there were people who listened along the way. people who gave me options. kept me on track. and

. >> from the trayvon martin case. >> if i had a son, he would look like trayvon. >> the president of the united states is deeply invested. the. >> president invest millions for police body cameras. transferring military-style hardware to law enforcement. and data broken down by democratics to be made graphic. after eric garner was killed in a struggle with new york police the president again pledged change. i'm not interested in talk. i'm interested in action. >> in early march president obama called for a broad overhaul of the criminal justice system since then walter scott was shot in the back by a police officer in south carolina, and freddie gray died from spinal injuries allegedly sustained while in custody of police in baltimore. as a major american city in violence, community leaders are describing conditions that drive people to the streets. >> they have nothing to lose. that's a terrifying situation when you have nothing to lose and you're ready to go on video on camera and carry out actions that you know could land you in jail for life. >> 40 miles away the president appear

law enforcement folk are looking at cases like trayvon martin ta mir rice eric garner and they're siding with law enforcement. they're saying it's tough out there. it's dangerous out there. they have to protect themselves. and this is the narrative that they use every time in these shootings. we were fortunate and this family was blessed to get access so we could have the truth in this particular case, and it explodes the previous narratives. your common sense question is going to continue to go unanswered. i don't think that law enforcement has gotten wake-up call just jet. i really don't. if you think about these as sit-ins and die-ins and some of the organized ways in which the dream defenders are trying to raise awareness. if you look at their assistance in michael brown's funeral. their attitude their positionalty, they're still defensive. we haven't had the kind of conversations to lead to resolution and rebuilding the public trust with law enforcement. >> and finally, mr. henderson, the discrepancy between the police report and the video tape your thoughts? >> i think it's a real

he edited the book "killing trayvons: an anthology of american violence" and is the author of "waitingor lightning to strike: the fundamentals of black politics." he is joining us from columbia, south carolina. welcome back to democracy now! can you first, kevin respond to this videotape that came out after an initial police report that this officer felt afraid, so he opened fire and killed walters got? -- walter scott? kevin: well, if you can get over your initial outrage, you have to command of the mayor for acting swiftly and bringing charges against the police officer. obviously the video shows that the police lied, and that is not uncommon for police to life. -- to lie. it is just lucky that there was someone there to film it. we have to ask the question about the officer's partner, but it is clear that the officer lied about what transpired in the parking lot, but at least the police department in north charleston acted swiftly. now they need to act on some reforms. they have got a population in north charleston that is 40% black, yet their population is 80% -- yet their police f

because of all these things that have happened in the last two years, from trayvon martin all the wayeople in this country, african-americans in particular could feel confident that the justice department when called upon to do something would do something. was there. and so for both of my identities, i look to the justice department and in particular eric holder as a hero. this is the man who went to the president of the united states worked with the president of the united states to say, you know what? we shouldn't be defending the so-called defense of marriage act in the supreme court. it's unconstitutional. that's what eric holder did. >> can you imagine having gone through trayvon martin through today with an attorney general ashcroft? i mean, eric holder is going to be responsible for some of the most -- going to the lgbt rights, the most progressive legacy of president obama's presidency. that's going to be a thing that we remember. >> i would ask you, chairman steele, as jeff said he has shepherded through a progressive era at the doj. for people who are not progressives -- >>

and what do you say to critics that say since the death of trayvon martin you have not been aggressive enough in your response? and to prime minister, how important is a pacific trade deal to keeping the influence of china in check both economically and materially, and do you agree with president obama when he says failing to complete a deal with further the influence? thank you. before i answer the question about baltimore, i am going to hone in on your question to the prime minister. i have been very clear that t.p.p. is good for american businesses and american workers. regardless of what china is doing. and we will make the case on the merits as to why it will open up markets for american goods american ebbs ports and create american jobs. so this is part and parcel of our economic agenda moving forward. when 95% of our markets are outside our shores, we have to keep competing. with respect to baltimore let me make a couple of points. first, our thoughts continue to be with the family of freddie gray, they understandably want answers. the d.o.j. has opened an investigation, it is w

baltimore and the larger picture, and what do you say to critics who say that since the death of trayvon martin you have not been aggressive enough in your response? >> when individuals get crowbars and start prying open doors to loot, they are not protesting. they are not making a statement, they are stealing. what i would say is there's been a slow-rolling crisis. this has been going on for a long time. this is not new. i think there are police departments that have to do some soul searching. i think's some communities that have to do some soul searching, but i think we as a country have to do some soul searching and that we don't just pay attention to these communities when a cvs burns and we don't just pay attention when a young man gets shot or has his spine snapped. >> the president's first comments today about the violence in baltimore. he spent more than 14 minutes answering chris' question. our nbc news political director and moderator of "meet the press" chuck todd is with us tonight. the president talked about soul searching. do our leaders, will our leaders have to do some so

. >> i urged caution in the duke coverage and in the trayvon martin coverage and now this coverage. >times. they got it right three times in 10 years. those are solar eclipse numbers, people, which i think is why it's recommended you only watch fox through a tiny pinhole poked through a piece of cardboard. you can't look directly at fox. it will indelibly burn your soul. the whole rush to judgment complaint is ( bleep ) fox is nothing but a rush to judgment in almost every situation. okay. you're the caution and sober reflection network. ( laughter ) my favorite part of the piece was after 10 minutes of complaining that no one would ever thank them this. >> if you are waiting for the mainstream media to say not only we were wrong in this racially charged case that resulted in so much violence in that town and to credit fox news for being right, you're going to hold your breath a long time. >> we don't care about them. (laughter) >> jon: right, you don't care, in the same way my mom doesn't care if i ever call. ( laughter ) sure, call or not. i could just sit here and die. ( laughter )

i'm fighting for trayvon martin. brandon tate brown. and i'm going to continue fighting. not just today tomorrow on and on. until i have no more fight left. >> i'm a middle schoolteacher. my students are tell and 13 years old and they're just coming of age. they're figuring out who they are. they're forming their own self identity in this world and um, it kills me that so much of what the world will see them as is a violent criminal just because of what they look like. >> reporter: back live again you are seeing what appears to be the end of the rally here by city hall. many of these demonstrators are moving along again we're not exactly sure where they're headed from here. we got to tell you it has been exceptionally peaceful. there's been a strong police presence here. they kind of the officers pretty much standing in the background but causing the protesters no problems at all. again, very passionate. but non violent as well certainly a good sign iain and lucy back to you the. >> the protesters not causing any problems for the police. from the ground to the skyfox in t

been killed but also for a change so that this doesn't happen again. >> now, joy, we've seen since trayvon and going forward a lot of activism but a lot of focus has not been on the real systemic problems. and i know people have been saying to me and i know they've probably said to you the media ought to also talk about the conditions that a lot of this anger and a lot of this come from because these incidents are not happening in isolation. >> no absolutely reverend. that is precisely what people have been telling us all day. we focused on talking particularly to a lot of young african american men. i'm standing at pennsylvania and north, which is the heart of kind of the west baltimore area. and we walked about a long couple of blocks down one of the streets here down north, and there is a whole row of buildings with the windows broken out or boarded up. there is blight as far as the eye can see there is drug activity there is all sorts of systemic problems none of which were created by any riot. no riot knocked out the windows in those buildings. they were already knocked out. and so i

secondly i disagree where we constantly bring up trayvon martin. he was not shot by a police officer. why don't we stop bringing him up into these police conversations. >> the reason i brought it up is not because -- everyone knows he wasn't shot by a police officer. that's common sense. >> i don't know that everyone knows that, don. i think -- [ speaking simultaneously ] >> hold on. one at a time. >> the reason i brought it up is because in the trial that i covered a lot from the very beginning, the entire story, is that it didn't matter what happened before the confrontation. the crux of the case and mark o'mara can tell you this, the crux of the case it boiled down to what happened in those moments before trayvon martin was killed that we did not see. so i'm just using that comparison to this. what this will boil down to as joey has said are the moments of the confrontation and just before this man is shot to death. >> the community activist is here with me in washington. you have had a chance to take a look at what led up to the incident. this

happened here kelly, is that -- megyn, what we've seen is a pattern that's emerged starting with trayvon martin case. obviously no large-scale violence broke out. but then we had ferguson. then we had staten island. now we've got a series of other incidents concluding with freddie gray and it's almost this notion that this has become the new civil rights movement. oddly enough and this has got to have people like dr. king spinning in their grave, to hear people describing this as some sort of movement now. >> why, why? because we hear that black lives matter and what we are told is you know folks feel like every week they see another black man get shot by a cop. now in the most recent two cops got charged, but there was videotape, and that's what these folks say. >> right. >> that there's not videotape in every case. when there isn't one, the cops don't get charged. >> but, of course and i think there's a certain amount of justifiable outrage over the killing of freddie gray because it's a very mysterious and bizarre circumstance. obviously the man didn't break his own neck. so then ther

he was the attorney for the michael brown family trayvon martin family.ou wanted to make a point. >> yeah wolf i agreed with mark morial. it is becoming a state of emergency when we continue to see america sanction the killing killings of these unarmed people of color. and every time nothing happens, when it is just inexplicable the manner in which they died it makes people have greater mistrust in the community. at a certain point, that erupts and we've got to do something about it. leaders have to be responsible. i believe the mayor in baltimore is going to try to get to the bottom of this but it needs to happen sooner than later, because this community is on the verge of erupting. >> but the investigation, benjamin is only just beginning, right? they don't have all the answers. >> you know there are so many questions. why can't you give the family the preliminary report so they can have some answers as to what happened. how long do they have to have pain and suffering on top of pain and suffering of losing a child before you say this is what happened t

he did nothing as far as investigating with the trayvon m artin deal and the police department. it was clear that zimmerman who was involved in killing trayvon martin, was coached by the police department. anybody with half a brain could see that was all doctored up. it eric holder did nothing but give lip service. he just gave lip service and give speeches. an attorney general is supposed to be strong and enforce the law. have an investigation, just like republicans with their attorney general's. with clinton and monica lewinsky. they treated him like he committed a federal crime. eric holder should have done that with all of these cases. whether it was police departments involved in these killings of black men and whatever. he was not there. he was just giving speeches -- host: that is marshall in california. the attorney general announced his resignation in september of last year. here is a portion of that speech. [video clip] >> we have been great colleagues but the bonds between us are much deeper than that. in good times and in bad, in things personal and things profession

it's bigger than freddy gray and trayvon martin or michael brown. we do on tv are just a cry out to help. >> reporter: right. i see guys walking around, smoking pot openly almost difiantly. this is what we do. it doesn't bode well. it doesn't look good for what might happen once all of this leaves. >> i feel you. >> reporter: and you live here? >> yes sir. >> reporter: you'll be okay? >> yes. >> reporter: how many of your friends are not going to be okay? >> most of my friends will be okay because at the end of the day, we all speak for the protestors. that's who they're not showing. we're peacefully protesting, nothing is happening. everything is just calm and civilized, as long as nothing is being provoked. >> reporter: thank you very much. i'm glad we got that in. >> okay. >> reporter: and these gentlemen are playing chess and they tell me they're good enough to talk to me at the same time. [ laughter ] >> reporter: maryland? right outside dc? >> we're a nonprofit organization. mind body, and spirit. >> reporter: tell me what's going on in baltim

the genesis of my brother's keeper it came out in the trayvon martin case. it surprised the press briefing core to explain the anger and the angst that americans were feeling, especially parents of young boys of color. and he talked candidly about his own experience. how before he was famous, he would walk by a car and hear the doors locked. the implicit bias that young men of color face. and how we need to bolster them and find pathways of opportunity. but also understand there are barriers that need to be removed. and we need to make sure the kids know they matter. not facing the negative reinforcements that kids get. that was the summer of 2013, he said i don't have a secret plan. i don't think we are going to create some massive program here, but there has to be something we can do. fast forward to february of 2014 the president lost my brother's keeper. it addresses the persistent opportunity gaps and hopes to make sure that all can reach their potential. we are looking at cradles to college and careers we are focused on evidence-based intervention. bef

you don't care about black people, you don't care about me, did you not care about walter scott or trayvonartin. lou: he said, al sharpton was out to make money money -- pierce an is the same young man who took on president obama on youtube. >> we take up with leading attorneys, here next. [announcer:] what if one stalk of broccoli could protect you from cancer? what if one push up could prevent heart disease? [man grunts] one wishful thinking, right? but there is one step you can take to help prevent another serious disease- pneumococcal pneumonia. one dose of the prevnar 13® vaccine can help protect you ... from pneumococcal pneumonia, an illness that can cause coughing, chest pain difficulty breathing and may even put you in the hospital. prevnar 13 ® is used in adults 50 and older to help prevent infections from 13 strains of the bacteria that cause pneumococcal pneumonia. you should not receive prevnar 13 ® if you've had a severe allergic reaction to the vaccine or its ingredients if you have a weakened immune system, you may have a lower response to the vaccine. common side effects w

joy so you also added trayvon martin to that song. is it going to take efforts like this more?eep young black men from dying in your estimation? >> it's going to take things like this to create conversation and that's why i created this song i feel like just being young, i can retliet black people i can relate to mexican people because i'm from college park georgia, so i feel like me being young, i can have a voice and tell them what's going on. >> t.i. you and i have been on the same shows where we talked about things like this. the song is i'm screaming, "f lupolicia and you know what that means and you say f" the police in some of it. and bratton talked about some of the language being used. >> when you have demonstrated and chanting what do we want? dead cops. i'm sorry that's going to rr far. >> so what do you say about this type of language keeping more people kill saided. >> if i may speak to answer the question. i agree completely with the commissioner. i'm not -- we're not calling for the death of anyone. we're calling for the death of our people to end. and i believe

with trayvon martin president obama said if he had a sudden. what do you make of the president's handling of the was explosive moments under his watch? >> guest: african-americans are looking at him as the savior. he wanted to make them believe change what happened as he was running for the office. he could never reach that level of expectation that he said himself. and people were hurting from the recession started looking for hope and change. that this is is first time give him a chance. the first time it was a rising tide lifts all votes. -- bodes. but the second time announcing the african american president it was a president who happens to be african-american. the reason why i say that is he is open how he regards to social issues and as president your president of all-america. especially dealing with race issues. he brought up the issue that people were sleeping under the rug for many decades. with police involved shootings right now you have to support though law-enforcement. >> host: ferguson missouri? shares he have gone? >> guest: th

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in 2012, he was first to go to sanford, florida, you wereon upon shooting death of trayvon martin. and inciting death threats against zimmerman who was exonerated. last summer, he kicked off a national campaign against law enforcement in ferguson. in new york in case of eric garner sharpton went after new york police, and stepped himself with the city's left wing mayor bill de blasio, as the leading antagonists of the nypd. al sharpton made no effort to calm to unite he hurled rhetoric and including this remark to mayor de blasio about his -- mixed race son. >> if dante was not your son he would be a candidate for a chokehold. we've got to deal with that reality. lou: that reality? al sharpton is in baltimore, in that "reality," without a fact in his possession, he is already claiming what happened with freddie gray is important of part of a national problem. >> we're trying to act like these are problems you can handle in isolation there must be a national response to a national issue we can't keep running like hamsters -- >> no one knows what happened with freddie gray, except fo

the right and left because of the horrifying video, there is a certain unity that happened after trayvon martin and after michael brown was killed. >> it and partly the clarity of the video. also it is the excesses of ferguson on both sides hopefully -- this is dangerous to say about media -- hopefully we learned a little bit about that, about taking it beyond where we can go with the facts. i hope that is what we are seeing. >> do you agree with that? everyone who was horrified enough by the way the media coverage spun out-of-control. there were riots in ferguson and the community in charleston in north charleston handled it well and i am sympathetic to the wall december cot family. >> did they learn something? >> i hope so. david is right on, the media needs to evolve to telling the story businesses on available facts and nothing else and for those that want to push a narrative on either side, they are completely wrong and the community, also very responsible in their response. that speaks to the community versus a community that was high jagged by insiders and outsiders in ferguson. >

he's weighed in on selma and on trayvon martin in florida. i wonder how the parks service feels about his lost opportunity to unite us by going to vicsburg or going to gettysburg or appomattox next week and celebrating the 260,000 -- let me change that, 360,000 dead union soldiers who died for the national state of policy of freeing the slaves that they never met? >> two things. first offer, i don't have the slightest, the national park service doesn't have a mind of its own. it's a collection of people with a lot of their own minds. secondly, the president of the united states is my boss. i would be a little bit hesitant hesitant, no matter what my opinion was to enter into that discussion with you in this setting. when i'm off my uniform and walking the streets i'll be glad to offer up my opinions on that but not here and now today. i hope you'll excuse me for that. >> my name is a.j. douglas. i hope you don't mind me doing this. it's kind of long but i'd like to say i don't really think though civil war was completely about slavery. why? b

our cities in a serious way and history so going to link what happened in ferguson and baltimore to trayvonhese incidents of white policeman beating or killing black americans and the distrust of the black community towards the police is just at epidemic levels and so i do think we need have this national conversation now. >> okay. so areevau, this is for you. douglas mentioned the murder rate. let's talk about it in neighborhoods like freddy gray's. the unemployment rate is over 50%. and the same kind of situation that existed in south central l.a. and in many parts of the country. what gives here? >> these are systemic problems that will take really long time to fix and one of the issues you're seeing is that the young people are saying they're tired of waiting. i was in the ferguson area and i talked to some of the leaders and they said, look we have companies ready to come in and give jobs to the young people but they don't have the skills p. but changing as far as the educational and economic system those are definitely long term things we need to work on at the national level but the

horrifying video there has been a more civil discussion i would say certainly than happened after trayvoni. >> i think it's part charity of the video, but also the excesses of ferguson on both i had sides. hopefully we all learned a little bit about that, about taking it beyond where we can go with the facts. >> david webb, do you agree that the way everybody kind of spun out of control, you think the media learned something here? >> yeah, i hope they did. i hope the evolution of covering stories honestly and to david's point, again, he's right organization the media needs to evolve to the point of covering the story telling the story based based on available facts and nothing else. for those that want to push a narrative on either side they are completely wrong. the community also very responsible in their response. that speaks to the community versus a community that was hijacked by both insiders and outsiders in ferguson. >> maybe modest progress here. my thanks to both davids, webb and zurich. >>> ahead the media's challenge in covering hillary clinton as she jumps into the presidenti

nor did i rush to judgment in richard jewel case or in the trayvon martin george zimmerman case we don't know. until we have facts, i think we should all wait for answers. you don't know. and i don't know right now what happened. >> sean very said that 100 times if i've said it once you sound like you've been listening to my press conferences. and when i said rushing to judgment can spoil everything. and so of course we need patience. we need to wait and see where the evidence goes. and this whether there is a prosecution or not should not be based on public opinion, but the evidence. i've cautioned everybody that we have wait until facts are gathered and we have this complete investigation that we can get, then only then make a decision about whether someone ought to be prosecuted. >> you and i are in full agreement. we're in full agreement on this? >> of course. >> let me ask a tough question though. there is an arrest record depending on the different articles have i read 10-12 instances where mr. gray had been arrested marijuana selling heroin selling etc. are you saying that you don

a new virtual reality act re-enacts the scene of trayvon martin's shooting death designed to make usersing. this is a freedown load and if you have samsung head sets it's a virtual reality headset. we recorded it. this is rather brilliant. emblematic journalist they have done a good job taking all the particular facts of this case it takes the testimony, the 911 calls. it even starts off with a candy store so you can play the role of trayvon martin in this particular case. in this case you will play the role at one of the witness testimonies that said we're hearing some scuttle outside. watch what happens with this couple. during this it's kind of concerning and you are watching this and you get caught up in the action. really well-done, way of telling a story. now, if you are not noni and you are about getting the truth and putting it together accurately, i think it causes some great concern to make sure that when we see these sort of game changer technologies come about that we're ready to say who is telling the story and why are they telling the story. >> there are moral issues ethic

with respect to baltimore and larger critics and what do you say to critics that since the death of trayvontin you have not been in your response. how important is keeping the trade deal with china in check economically and militarily, and do you agree with president obama when he says failing to complete a deal will simply further china's insolence. thank you. >> before i answer the question on baltimore, i'm going to hone in on your question to prime minister abe. i've been very clear that tpp is good for american businesses and american workers. regardless of what china is doing. and we will make the case on the merits as to why it will open up markets for american goods american exports and create american jobs. so this is not simply a defensive agreement. this is something that's going to be part and parcel of our broader economic agenda moving forward, and when 95% of the world's markets are outside our shores. we got to make sure we're out there competing, and i'm confident we can compete. with respect to baltimore, let me make a couple of points. first obviously our thoughts continu

the right and left because of the horrifying video, there is a certain unity that happened after trayvonchael brown was killed. >> it and partly the clarity of the video. also it is the excesses of ferguson on both sides hopefully -- this is dangerous to say about media -- hopefully we learned a little bit about that, about taking it beyond where we can go with the facts. i hope that is what we are seeing. >> do you agree with that? everyone who was horrified enough by the way the media coverage spun out-of-control. there were riots in ferguson and the community in charleston in north charleston handled it well and i am sympathetic to the wall december cot family. >> did they learn something? >> i hope so. david is right on, the media needs to evolve to telling the story businesses on available facts and nothing else and for those that want to push a narrative on either side, they are completely wrong and the community, also very responsible in their response. that speaks to the community versus a community that was high jagged by insiders and outsiders in ferguson. >> maybe some modest

another man tweeted again, link linking to high profile cases, trayvon martin michael brown, the list goes on when will the senseless killing finally mark change. another talking point is about the video itself the fact this video has been shared on social media. what would have happened if this video hasn't been taken or action police might have taken had it not appeared on social media. >> we can get media response as well now from steve, the correspondent for the news. right now at the detention center. thanks for joining us. it's difficult from here to imagine what sort of reaction and what sort of response and intensity of it coming off the back of this video. >> reporter: i can tell you among police officers here the response is one of heartbreak. the police chief here called in most of the officers to actually break the news to them in person about this arrest. across the country, the response is outrage. a very strong sense that had this video not been recorded that justice may never have been sought in this case. there's a lot of concern about this especially with all the att