another way of saying that is that trayvon martin could have been me 35 years ago.eporter: in 2014, the michael brown case sent further shock waves across the country. the charges held against the white police officer accused of killing brownwood dropped -- killing brown were dropped, triggering mass protests. more than 50 years after martin luther king's march in washington racial tensions seem far from being result. host: away from the u.s., some 8 million people have been affected by the 7.8 magnitude earthquake claiming over 4000 lives in nepal. foreign aid workers from countries including china, india, and the u.s., have arrived in , where 1.4 million people are in danger. time is of the essence for those trapped underneath the rubble and for thousands of residents homes are now makeshift tents. reporter: thousands of nepalese continue to camp out in open air after fear of aftershocks in the possibility that their damaged homes could fall any moment. for days, many have been too scared to enter any building. as this resident explained monday -- >> for suffocati

-- trayvon martin and eric brown. next stuff to harris, thank you. we all want to show some appreciation for the fact that you were able to envision the need for this type of forum and to put your money where your mouth was -- where your mouth is as people would say. i know you are very well thought of by many of the elected officials currently in office throughout the country who are students and -- of political science at howard and you have done a fine job, sir, and we are very proud to be students and associated with you. thank you for this program. [applause] when i was -- i received a phone call and he asked me if i would be the moderator of a panel and i asked him, please tell me what it is about, where it is, and what is going on and he said it is at the school of divinity at howard and i am like, i am in. tell me what the subject matter is and what we are doing and he explained to me as you see the title of what we are talking about today is transitioning from the moment -- from the moment to the movement. an

stay in baltimore but switch to sharon black, a volunteer, a group founded after the death of trayvon martin. good to have you with us. this video footage depicted a city in chaos, rocks, debris thrown at police police cars, businesses on fire other acts of violence. what are your thoughts on the scene in baltimore as you had been outside speaking to the people involved? >> i think what the viewers have to understand or what they are witnessing is the rage and frustration of the young people in the city. who the root causes of rage have not been addressed, unemployment daily abuse, racism all the things that are placed. they feel anger and frustrated. this is the outcome that we were noticing. this is what we were seeing. in many ways we have likened baltimore to an outdoor present, in some ways we compare it for gaza if you go to the east or the west you see a heavy police presence. there's one cop for every two people in the city. it's like a police state. when we were at the protest... >> let me interrupt you. >> no problem. >> the police are beginning the press conference let's listen in

and those moments are just -- i think about tracy martin and trayvon. you just never can get that sound out of your head, that phone call when they first call and, you know, they try sometimes to stereotype black men as if we don't love our children and we don't accept our -- i'm hear to tell you, tracy martin loved his son, trayvon. and when he was on that call -- y'all remember tracy as a manly man. he drives trucks and he has the body and the beard. the women like to look at him. and tracy was on that phone and i mean when he said about the neighborhood watch volunteer with a 9 millimeter gun killed my son when he was walking home from the 7-eleven, it's almost like he was whispering. so when you see this on tv this real manly man, i mean, it's the sound of heartbrokenness, just hopelessness. he was shattered. what he was telling me was that would have done it, they were violent, and me being an officer of the court, i was almost debating, saying, you don't need me, mr. martin, give it a couple of days because your son is walking with a bag of skittl

man, i'm here to tell you, tracy martin loved his son trayvon. when he was on that call -- you have to remember tracy is it a manly man, he drives trucks. he has the beard the women like to look at him. and tracy was on that phone and -- i mean, when he said about the neighborhood watch volunteer with a nine millimeter gun kill my son when he was walking home from the 7-eleven. it's almost like he was whisperring. when you see this on tv, this real manly man it's the sound of heart brokenness. i mean, just hopelessness. i mean, he was telling me they weren't going to do anything about him. i was almost debating. you don't need me mr. martin give it a couple days. i kept thinking to myself you know your son is unharmed, he's walking with a bag of skittles and a can of iced t and the neighborhood watch volunteer has a nine millimeter gun and shoots him in the heart, i'm like no, you got your dead child unarmed body. the smoking gun in a self-professed killer's hand of course they're going to arrest them i really believe that, i'm an officer of the

from the trayvon martin case. >> if i had a son, he'd look like trayvon martin. >> to the aftermath of ferguson where he made a perm vow. >> part of the reason in is different is the president of united states is deeply invested in making sure. >> reporter: the president pledged millions for police body cameras, a review of hardware and data on police stops, frisks and arrests. broken by demographics to be made public. the president pledged change. >> i'm not interested in talk or action. >> in early march they called for a broad overhaul of the criminal justice system. >> since then walter scott was shot in the back by a police officer in south carolina. and freddie gray died from spinal injuries stained whilst in the custody of police in baltimore. as a major si convulses, community leaders describe continues driving young people into the streets. >> there are people with nothing to loose. that is terrifying when you have nothing to lose, and you are willing to go out on video, on camera and carry out actions that you know could land you in gaol. >> 40 minutes away the president disg

. >> remember trayvon martin? trayvon martin, say the words trayvon martin. let. >> let's stay on.ell you why there is a parallel. in trange martin, i urged the prosecutor if they were going to charge zirm with anything, it should be manslaughter. look what happened? the prosecutor because of politics, insisted on a murder wrap, the jury acquitted. if you want to be be politically correct and charge only murder that south carolina jury will acquit him. charge manslaughter. >> and murder. >> you can do both. >> in new york you can i'm not sure about south carolina. >> but i say that because political correctness affects the prosecutor's job in high profile cases charge manslaughter. he goes to jail up to 30 years without possibility of parole. >> he falsified the police report. >> do you want him to go to jail or do you want the possibility of acquittal. >> he shot the man in the back and there is no proof that he was in imminent danger for body. >> you don't have to be in imminent danger. >> you do. >> you don't. for a manslaughter wrap to hold you need a legally justified provocat

you have ferguson trayvon martin eric garner. you're right on top of probably the most difficult issue in this country right now. >> i have to say it was a little bit painful. there was a moment when we were putting this show together after the trayvon martin verdicts, and we thought maybe the subject marry matter was a little passe. not that we were naive but maybe that we would react in different ways. and in the middle of the production ferguson happen: we realized that this was even though this is a fictionalized story, that these events are continuing to happen. and that we have a responsibility to have an emotional honesty to what we're doing, both for the audience that's coming to this, and hopefully getting an emotional impact out of this, but those who on a daily basis have to deal with these things. we can't treat it as entertainment purely. >> is there something that you want to say through the program or now about this? >> i can't pretend that there is not some of my opinions in this. i can never separate myself from

we cover the trayvon martin conversation and try to pretend everything was okay when we know better.nnings police department was disbanded because of raceismracism. why are we shocked that there's racism in ferguson when we know they absorb racist police officers from jennings. the sky is not falling but the only way we'll get past this problem is acknowledging it's there. >> thank you very much. we chose to just show you a few of them that we thought made the point about how cavalierly and common this was in the ferguson police department and our belief those images brought this home in the way the words we heard over the past few weeks could not do. >>> next kim jung-un bringing back an old tradition. it's called the pleasure squad. the prettiest young women are available to him upon request. we have a special report on what this is. that's next. >>> 50 years ago this was the car of the future. a driverless car. the future has finally arrived. next, we'll put you in the driverless seat. there were people who listened along the way. people who gave me options. kept me on track. and

trayvon martin's death launched nationwide debates about race relations. believes the power to eliminate profiling remains in with american the youth. >> i want to make a difference. i want to make sure i'm involved in what's going on. i want to make sure i'm involved in the change. >> trayvon was 17 when he was shot and killed by george zimmerman as he walked home from a convenience store in 2012. zimmerman was acquitted in the case as he claimed he shot the teen in self-defense. martin was unarmed at the time. >>> it is the latest scandal to hit america's security service. congress now looking into allegations that de agents, dea agents had wild sex parties with prostitutes. >> you'll never guess who investigators say was paying for those parties. massachusetts man lights a cigarette and his car goes up in flames. after he gets out of the hospital he'll be heading to jail. what police discovered at his home. jot. >> iain right now ultimate doppler still showing some lingering showers. depend ong where you live. we'll have the timing timing when the mess

law enforcement folk are looking at cases like trayvon martin ta mir rice eric garner and they're siding with law enforcement. they're saying it's tough out there. it's dangerous out there. they have to protect themselves. and this is the narrative that they use every time in these shootings. we were fortunate and this family was blessed to get access so we could have the truth in this particular case, and it explodes the previous narratives. your common sense question is going to continue to go unanswered. i don't think that law enforcement has gotten wake-up call just jet. i really don't. if you think about these as sit-ins and die-ins and some of the organized ways in which the dream defenders are trying to raise awareness. if you look at their assistance in michael brown's funeral. their attitude their positionalty, they're still defensive. we haven't had the kind of conversations to lead to resolution and rebuilding the public trust with law enforcement. >> and finally, mr. henderson, the discrepancy between the police report and the video tape your thoughts? >> i think it's a real

because of all these things that have happened in the last two years, from trayvon martin all the wayeople in this country, african-americans in particular could feel confident that the justice department when called upon to do something would do something. was there. and so for both of my identities, i look to the justice department and in particular eric holder as a hero. this is the man who went to the president of the united states worked with the president of the united states to say, you know what? we shouldn't be defending the so-called defense of marriage act in the supreme court. it's unconstitutional. that's what eric holder did. >> can you imagine having gone through trayvon martin through today with an attorney general ashcroft? i mean, eric holder is going to be responsible for some of the most -- going to the lgbt rights, the most progressive legacy of president obama's presidency. that's going to be a thing that we remember. >> i would ask you, chairman steele, as jeff said he has shepherded through a progressive era at the doj. for people who are not progressives -- >>

and what do you say to critics that say since the death of trayvon martin you have not been aggressive enough in your response? and to prime minister, how important is a pacific trade deal to keeping the influence of china in check both economically and materially, and do you agree with president obama when he says failing to complete a deal with further the influence? thank you. before i answer the question about baltimore, i am going to hone in on your question to the prime minister. i have been very clear that t.p.p. is good for american businesses and american workers. regardless of what china is doing. and we will make the case on the merits as to why it will open up markets for american goods american ebbs ports and create american jobs. so this is part and parcel of our economic agenda moving forward. when 95% of our markets are outside our shores, we have to keep competing. with respect to baltimore let me make a couple of points. first, our thoughts continue to be with the family of freddie gray, they understandably want answers. the d.o.j. has opened an investigation, it is w

baltimore and the larger picture, and what do you say to critics who say that since the death of trayvon martin you have not been aggressive enough in your response? >> when individuals get crowbars and start prying open doors to loot, they are not protesting. they are not making a statement, they are stealing. what i would say is there's been a slow-rolling crisis. this has been going on for a long time. this is not new. i think there are police departments that have to do some soul searching. i think's some communities that have to do some soul searching, but i think we as a country have to do some soul searching and that we don't just pay attention to these communities when a cvs burns and we don't just pay attention when a young man gets shot or has his spine snapped. >> the president's first comments today about the violence in baltimore. he spent more than 14 minutes answering chris' question. our nbc news political director and moderator of "meet the press" chuck todd is with us tonight. the president talked about soul searching. do our leaders, will our leaders have to do some soul sear

. >> i urged caution in the duke coverage and in the trayvon martin coverage and now this coverage. >times. they got it right three times in 10 years. those are solar eclipse numbers, people, which i think is why it's recommended you only watch fox through a tiny pinhole poked through a piece of cardboard. you can't look directly at fox. it will indelibly burn your soul. the whole rush to judgment complaint is ( bleep ) fox is nothing but a rush to judgment in almost every situation. okay. you're the caution and sober reflection network. ( laughter ) my favorite part of the piece was after 10 minutes of complaining that no one would ever thank them this. >> if you are waiting for the mainstream media to say not only we were wrong in this racially charged case that resulted in so much violence in that town and to credit fox news for being right, you're going to hold your breath a long time. >> we don't care about them. (laughter) >> jon: right, you don't care, in the same way my mom doesn't care if i ever call. ( laughter ) sure, call or not. i could just sit here and die. ( laughter )

i'm fighting for trayvon martin. brandon tate brown. and i'm going to continue fighting. not just today tomorrow on and on. until i have no more fight left. >> i'm a middle schoolteacher. my students are tell and 13 years old and they're just coming of age. they're figuring out who they are. they're forming their own self identity in this world and um, it kills me that so much of what the world will see them as is a violent criminal just because of what they look like. >> reporter: back live again you are seeing what appears to be the end of the rally here by city hall. many of these demonstrators are moving along again we're not exactly sure where they're headed from here. we got to tell you it has been exceptionally peaceful. there's been a strong police presence here. they kind of the officers pretty much standing in the background but causing the protesters no problems at all. again, very passionate. but non violent as well certainly a good sign iain and lucy back to you the. >> the protesters not causing any problems for the police. from the ground to the skyfox in t

secondly i disagree where we constantly bring up trayvon martin. he was not shot by a police officer. why don't we stop bringing him up into these police conversations. >> the reason i brought it up is not because -- everyone knows he wasn't shot by a police officer. that's common sense. >> i don't know that everyone knows that, don. i think -- [ speaking simultaneously ] >> hold on. one at a time. >> the reason i brought it up is because in the trial that i covered a lot from the very beginning, the entire story, is that it didn't matter what happened before the confrontation. the crux of the case and mark o'mara can tell you this, the crux of the case it boiled down to what happened in those moments before trayvon martin was killed that we did not see. so i'm just using that comparison to this. what this will boil down to as joey has said are the moments of the confrontation and just before this man is shot to death. >> the community activist is here with me in washington. you have had a chance to take a look at what led up to the incident. this

happened here kelly, is that -- megyn, what we've seen is a pattern that's emerged starting with trayvon martin case. obviously no large-scale violence broke out. but then we had ferguson. then we had staten island. now we've got a series of other incidents concluding with freddie gray and it's almost this notion that this has become the new civil rights movement. oddly enough and this has got to have people like dr. king spinning in their grave, to hear people describing this as some sort of movement now. >> why, why? because we hear that black lives matter and what we are told is you know folks feel like every week they see another black man get shot by a cop. now in the most recent two cops got charged, but there was videotape, and that's what these folks say. >> right. >> that there's not videotape in every case. when there isn't one, the cops don't get charged. >> but, of course and i think there's a certain amount of justifiable outrage over the killing of freddie gray because it's a very mysterious and bizarre circumstance. obviously the man didn't break his own neck. so then there's cle

he was the attorney for the michael brown family trayvon martin family.ou wanted to make a point. >> yeah wolf i agreed with mark morial. it is becoming a state of emergency when we continue to see america sanction the killing killings of these unarmed people of color. and every time nothing happens, when it is just inexplicable the manner in which they died it makes people have greater mistrust in the community. at a certain point, that erupts and we've got to do something about it. leaders have to be responsible. i believe the mayor in baltimore is going to try to get to the bottom of this but it needs to happen sooner than later, because this community is on the verge of erupting. >> but the investigation, benjamin is only just beginning, right? they don't have all the answers. >> you know there are so many questions. why can't you give the family the preliminary report so they can have some answers as to what happened. how long do they have to have pain and suffering on top of pain and suffering of losing a child before you say this is what happened t

it's bigger than freddy gray and trayvon martin or michael brown. we do on tv are just a cry out to help. >> reporter: right. i see guys walking around, smoking pot openly almost difiantly. this is what we do. it doesn't bode well. it doesn't look good for what might happen once all of this leaves. >> i feel you. >> reporter: and you live here? >> yes sir. >> reporter: you'll be okay? >> yes. >> reporter: how many of your friends are not going to be okay? >> most of my friends will be okay because at the end of the day, we all speak for the protestors. that's who they're not showing. we're peacefully protesting, nothing is happening. everything is just calm and civilized, as long as nothing is being provoked. >> reporter: thank you very much. i'm glad we got that in. >> okay. >> reporter: and these gentlemen are playing chess and they tell me they're good enough to talk to me at the same time. [ laughter ] >> reporter: maryland? right outside dc? >> we're a nonprofit organization. mind body, and spirit. >> reporter: tell me what's going on in baltim

the genesis of my brother's keeper it came out in the trayvon martin case. it surprised the press briefing core to explain the anger and the angst that americans were feeling, especially parents of young boys of color. and he talked candidly about his own experience. how before he was famous, he would walk by a car and hear the doors locked. the implicit bias that young men of color face. and how we need to bolster them and find pathways of opportunity. but also understand there are barriers that need to be removed. and we need to make sure the kids know they matter. not facing the negative reinforcements that kids get. that was the summer of 2013, he said i don't have a secret plan. i don't think we are going to create some massive program here, but there has to be something we can do. fast forward to february of 2014 the president lost my brother's keeper. it addresses the persistent opportunity gaps and hopes to make sure that all can reach their potential. we are looking at cradles to college and careers we are focused on evidence-based intervention. bef

don't care about black people, you don't care about me, did you not care about walter scott or trayvon martinlou: he said, al sharpton was out to make money money -- pierce an is the same young man who took on president obama on youtube. >> we take up with leading attorneys, here next. [announcer:] what if one stalk of broccoli could protect you from cancer? what if one push up could prevent heart disease? [man grunts] one wishful thinking, right? but there is one step you can take to help prevent another serious disease- pneumococcal pneumonia. one dose of the prevnar 13® vaccine can help protect you ... from pneumococcal pneumonia, an illness that can cause coughing, chest pain difficulty breathing and may even put you in the hospital. prevnar 13 ® is used in adults 50 and older to help prevent infections from 13 strains of the bacteria that cause pneumococcal pneumonia. you should not receive prevnar 13 ® if you've had a severe allergic reaction to the vaccine or its ingredients if you have a weakened immune system, you may have a lower response to the vaccine. common side effects were pai

joy so you also added trayvon martin to that song. is it going to take efforts like this more?eep young black men from dying in your estimation? >> it's going to take things like this to create conversation and that's why i created this song i feel like just being young, i can retliet black people i can relate to mexican people because i'm from college park georgia, so i feel like me being young, i can have a voice and tell them what's going on. >> t.i. you and i have been on the same shows where we talked about things like this. the song is i'm screaming, "f lupolicia and you know what that means and you say f" the police in some of it. and bratton talked about some of the language being used. >> when you have demonstrated and chanting what do we want? dead cops. i'm sorry that's going to rr far. >> so what do you say about this type of language keeping more people kill saided. >> if i may speak to answer the question. i agree completely with the commissioner. i'm not -- we're not calling for the death of anyone. we're calling for the death of our people to end. and i believe

with trayvon martin president obama said if he had a sudden. what do you make of the president's handling of the was explosive moments under his watch? >> guest: african-americans are looking at him as the savior. he wanted to make them believe change what happened as he was running for the office. he could never reach that level of expectation that he said himself. and people were hurting from the recession started looking for hope and change. that this is is first time give him a chance. the first time it was a rising tide lifts all votes. -- bodes. but the second time announcing the african american president it was a president who happens to be african-american. the reason why i say that is he is open how he regards to social issues and as president your president of all-america. especially dealing with race issues. he brought up the issue that people were sleeping under the rug for many decades. with police involved shootings right now you have to support though law-enforcement. >> host: ferguson missouri? shares he have gone? >> guest: th

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in 2012, he was first to go to sanford, florida, you wereon upon shooting death of trayvon martin. and inciting death threats against zimmerman who was exonerated. last summer, he kicked off a national campaign against law enforcement in ferguson. in new york in case of eric garner sharpton went after new york police, and stepped himself with the city's left wing mayor bill de blasio, as the leading antagonists of the nypd. al sharpton made no effort to calm to unite he hurled rhetoric and including this remark to mayor de blasio about his -- mixed race son. >> if dante was not your son he would be a candidate for a chokehold. we've got to deal with that reality. lou: that reality? al sharpton is in baltimore, in that "reality," without a fact in his possession, he is already claiming what happened with freddie gray is important of part of a national problem. >> we're trying to act like these are problems you can handle in isolation there must be a national response to a national issue we can't keep running like hamsters -- >> no one knows what happened with freddie gray, except fo

right and left because of the horrifying video, there is a certain unity that happened after trayvon martin and after michael brown was killed. >> it and partly the clarity of the video. also it is the excesses of ferguson on both sides hopefully -- this is dangerous to say about media -- hopefully we learned a little bit about that, about taking it beyond where we can go with the facts. i hope that is what we are seeing. >> do you agree with that? everyone who was horrified enough by the way the media coverage spun out-of-control. there were riots in ferguson and the community in charleston in north charleston handled it well and i am sympathetic to the wall december cot family. >> did they learn something? >> i hope so. david is right on, the media needs to evolve to telling the story businesses on available facts and nothing else and for those that want to push a narrative on either side, they are completely wrong and the community, also very responsible in their response. that speaks to the community versus a community that was high jagged by insiders and outsiders in ferguson. >> maybe

he's weighed in on selma and on trayvon martin in florida. i wonder how the parks service feels about his lost opportunity to unite us by going to vicsburg or going to gettysburg or appomattox next week and celebrating the 260,000 -- let me change that, 360,000 dead union soldiers who died for the national state of policy of freeing the slaves that they never met? >> two things. first offer, i don't have the slightest, the national park service doesn't have a mind of its own. it's a collection of people with a lot of their own minds. secondly, the president of the united states is my boss. i would be a little bit hesitant hesitant, no matter what my opinion was to enter into that discussion with you in this setting. when i'm off my uniform and walking the streets i'll be glad to offer up my opinions on that but not here and now today. i hope you'll excuse me for that. >> my name is a.j. douglas. i hope you don't mind me doing this. it's kind of long but i'd like to say i don't really think though civil war was completely about slavery. why? b

cities in a serious way and history so going to link what happened in ferguson and baltimore to trayvon martincidents of white policeman beating or killing black americans and the distrust of the black community towards the police is just at epidemic levels and so i do think we need have this national conversation now. >> okay. so areevau, this is for you. douglas mentioned the murder rate. let's talk about it in neighborhoods like freddy gray's. the unemployment rate is over 50%. and the same kind of situation that existed in south central l.a. and in many parts of the country. what gives here? >> these are systemic problems that will take really long time to fix and one of the issues you're seeing is that the young people are saying they're tired of waiting. i was in the ferguson area and i talked to some of the leaders and they said, look we have companies ready to come in and give jobs to the young people but they don't have the skills p. but changing as far as the educational and economic system those are definitely long term things we need to work on at the national level but the young p

. >> from the trayvon martin case. >> if i had a son, he would look like trayvon. >> the president of the united states is deeply invested. the. >> president invest millions for police body cameras. transferring military-style hardware to law enforcement. and data broken down by democratics to be made graphic. after eric garner was killed in a struggle with new york police the president again pledged change. i'm not interested in talk. i'm interested in action. >> in early march president obama called for a broad overhaul of the criminal justice system since then walter scott was shot in the back by a police officer in south carolina, and freddie gray died from spinal injuries allegedly sustained while in custody of police in baltimore. as a major american city in violence, community leaders are describing conditions that drive people to the streets. >> they have nothing to lose. that's a terrifying situation when you have nothing to lose and you're ready to go on video on camera and carry out actions that you know could land you in jail for life. >> 40 miles away the president appear

horrifying video there has been a more civil discussion i would say certainly than happened after trayvon martin think it's part charity of the video, but also the excesses of ferguson on both i had sides. hopefully we all learned a little bit about that, about taking it beyond where we can go with the facts. >> david webb, do you agree that the way everybody kind of spun out of control, you think the media learned something here? >> yeah, i hope they did. i hope the evolution of covering stories honestly and to david's point, again, he's right organization the media needs to evolve to the point of covering the story telling the story based based on available facts and nothing else. for those that want to push a narrative on either side they are completely wrong. the community also very responsible in their response. that speaks to the community versus a community that was hijacked by both insiders and outsiders in ferguson. >> maybe modest progress here. my thanks to both davids, webb and zurich. >>> ahead the media's challenge in covering hillary clinton as she jumps into the presidential race

nor did i rush to judgment in richard jewel case or in the trayvon martin george zimmerman case we don't know. until we have facts, i think we should all wait for answers. you don't know. and i don't know right now what happened. >> sean very said that 100 times if i've said it once you sound like you've been listening to my press conferences. and when i said rushing to judgment can spoil everything. and so of course we need patience. we need to wait and see where the evidence goes. and this whether there is a prosecution or not should not be based on public opinion, but the evidence. i've cautioned everybody that we have wait until facts are gathered and we have this complete investigation that we can get, then only then make a decision about whether someone ought to be prosecuted. >> you and i are in full agreement. we're in full agreement on this? >> of course. >> let me ask a tough question though. there is an arrest record depending on the different articles have i read 10-12 instances where mr. gray had been arrested marijuana selling heroin selling etc. are you saying that you don

a new virtual reality act re-enacts the scene of trayvon martin's shooting death designed to make usersing. this is a freedown load and if you have samsung head sets it's a virtual reality headset. we recorded it. this is rather brilliant. emblematic journalist they have done a good job taking all the particular facts of this case it takes the testimony, the 911 calls. it even starts off with a candy store so you can play the role of trayvon martin in this particular case. in this case you will play the role at one of the witness testimonies that said we're hearing some scuttle outside. watch what happens with this couple. during this it's kind of concerning and you are watching this and you get caught up in the action. really well-done, way of telling a story. now, if you are not noni and you are about getting the truth and putting it together accurately, i think it causes some great concern to make sure that when we see these sort of game changer technologies come about that we're ready to say who is telling the story and why are they telling the story. >> there are moral issues ethic

hasn't done more gone farther than a couple of blue ribbon commissions after it was after the trayvon martinoting or ferguson at different points with teachable moments called for a national dialogue on race. there's been little bit of talk that has followed so the president has managed to sort of weave his way through. he's been water walker here, skittering along the surface but he hasn't come forward with anything. his commissions haven't said he needs body camera and do this with guideline but a commission that calls for a new commission and we kind of spin our wheels. >> chris, you talked earlier about how important this is to japan and abbay how president obama is probably using them to poke at china. real big elephant in the room in my opinion would be japan saying hey, we want to scuttle, our constitution that was voiced when we lost world war ii get rid of the pacification part of it if we don't build battleship or supersonic aircraft down in china they've asked philippines to come to the rescue. >> china has been reckless almost for the disregard for old balance of power in the pac

right and left because of the horrifying video, there is a certain unity that happened after trayvon martinrown was killed. >> it and partly the clarity of the video. also it is the excesses of ferguson on both sides hopefully -- this is dangerous to say about media -- hopefully we learned a little bit about that, about taking it beyond where we can go with the facts. i hope that is what we are seeing. >> do you agree with that? everyone who was horrified enough by the way the media coverage spun out-of-control. there were riots in ferguson and the community in charleston in north charleston handled it well and i am sympathetic to the wall december cot family. >> did they learn something? >> i hope so. david is right on, the media needs to evolve to telling the story businesses on available facts and nothing else and for those that want to push a narrative on either side, they are completely wrong and the community, also very responsible in their response. that speaks to the community versus a community that was high jagged by insiders and outsiders in ferguson. >> maybe some modest progres

another man tweeted again, link linking to high profile cases, trayvon martin michael brown, the list goes on when will the senseless killing finally mark change. another talking point is about the video itself the fact this video has been shared on social media. what would have happened if this video hasn't been taken or action police might have taken had it not appeared on social media. >> we can get media response as well now from steve, the correspondent for the news. right now at the detention center. thanks for joining us. it's difficult from here to imagine what sort of reaction and what sort of response and intensity of it coming off the back of this video. >> reporter: i can tell you among police officers here the response is one of heartbreak. the police chief here called in most of the officers to actually break the news to them in person about this arrest. across the country, the response is outrage. a very strong sense that had this video not been recorded that justice may never have been sought in this case. there's a lot of concern about this especially with all the att

terms of baltimore and the larger picture and what the state critics who say since the death of trayvon martin you have not been aggressive enough in your response and to prime minister abe hata important is the pacific trade deal to keep the influence of china in check both economically and militarily and do you agree with president obama when he said failing to complete a deal would simply further china's influence? thank you. >> before i question -- i answer the question about baltimore i will address your question for prime minister abe. i have been very clear that tpp is good for american business and american workers. regardless of what china is doing. and we will make the case on the merits as to why it will open up markets for american goods, american exports and create american jobs though this is not simply a defensive agreement this is part and parcel of our broader economic agenda moving forward. when 95% of the world markets are outside our shores we have to make sure we are out there competing. with respect to baltimore let me make a couple points, with the family of free gray th

he was george zimmerman's attorney during the trayvon martin trial. great to have you on. the officer charged with murder in this case. do you believe he'll be convicted? that would require premeditation. >> well, the first-degree murder charge does require premeditation. that can be momentary. it's a nuance but it can come after you have an opportunity to reflect. if he had one or two shots that may not be premeditation and otherwise would be a second-degree murder charge. second-degree is when you're acting in the heat of passion, a sudden fight, a sudden provocation. here is the problem. you look at that videotape and you see him drawing down and shooting eight times with a slight change between or break between the 7th and 8th. someone's going to say on a jury that was an opportunity to reflect and then when you keep shooting it turns it into premeditated murder even though the first shot or two may not have been. >> several degrees of murder to contemplate. >>> next guilty on all 30 counts in the bombing. will jurors vote for the death penalty? the beautiful sound of

he was the attorney representing george zimmerman in the trayvon martin case. this is moving to the penalty phase. jurors will have to choose between putting dzhokhar tsarnaev away for life without parole or for the death penalty if he's put to death. what i guess makes him sympathetic at all to these jurors? is it really not about him? is it more about the families and what they want? they're certainly going to hear about that in this case. you expect a lot of families they'll hear from are ones that say put him to death. >> sure. there's a lot of dynamics adds imposed on somebody. first of all, we think of it as an afterthought that he's going to die in prison. whether five years or 50 years from now, he'll die in prison. the question becomes, how do we mete out proper punishment under our code? if anyone deserves death penalty, someone who's killed and tried to kill hundreds would deserve it. those that do death penalty work know of studies that suggest even those families that want death penalty imposed and get it -- closure doesn't come from that. closure

and what do say to critics who say that since the death of trayvon martin, you have not been aggressive enough in your response? and to prime minister abe, how important is a pacific trade deal to keep the influence of china in check both economically and militarily? and do you agree with president obama when he says that failing to complete a deal will simply further china's influence? thank you. president obama: before i answer the question about baltimore, i'm going to horn in on your question to prime minister abe. i have been very clear that t.p.p. is good for american businesses and american workers. regardless of what china's doing. and we will make the case on the merits as to why it will open up markets for american goods, american exports, and create american jobs. so this is not simply a defensive agreement. this is something that's going to be part and parcel of our broader economic agenda in moving forward. when 95% of the world's markets are outside our shores, we got to make sure we are out there competing. i'm confident we can compete. with respect to baltimore, let me m

what do you say to critics that say since the death of trayvon martin you have not been aggressive enough in your response? to prime minister abe, how aggressive are you to keep in check? do you agree with president obama when he says failing to complete a deal with further china's -- >> i've been clear that tpp is good for american businesses and american workers regardless of what china is doing. we will make the case on the per its as -- on the merits. this is not simply a defense agreement. this is something that's going to be pardon parcel of our broader economic agenda moving forward. when 95% of the markets are outside our shores we've got to make sure we're out there competing. i'm confident we can compete. with respect to baltimore, let me make a couple of points. first, obviously our thoughts continue to be with the family of freddie gray. understandably they want answers. doj has opened an investigation. it is working with local law enforcement to find out exactly what happened. i think there should be full transparency and accountability. second, my thoughts are with the polic

the pleas of freddie gray's family for peace and unity echoing the families of michael brown, trayvon martinnd others in the past years. those who are instigating further violence in baltimore are disrespecting the gray family and the entire community. they are compounding the tragedy of freddie gray's death and setting back the cause of justice. so the violence has to stop. but more broadly, let's remember that everyone in every community benefits when there is respect for the law when everyone in every community is respected by the law. [ applause ] that is what we have to work towards in baltimore and across our country. we must urgently begin to rebuild the bonds of trust and respect among americans. between police and citizens yes, but also across society. restoring trust in our politics our press, our markets. between and among neighbors and even people with whom we disagree politically. this is so fundamental to who we are as a nation and everything we want to achieve together. it truly is about how we treat each other and what we value. making it possible for every american to reach

. >> but the michael brown wasn't like that, the trayvon martin case wasn't like that. >> well, i don'trgue specific cases, sean but what we have seen is a revelation of cascade of black males being killed under, at the hands of law enforcement. >> can you name one other example? i gave you the numbers, 123 total versus 2 rkds,245 black on black crime. >> i can tell you that according to the department of justice figures for 2013 420 deaths and out of that 420 deaths sean, black males were four times as likely to face death after being taken into custody. >> congressman, we're on the same page here, i don't think i don't think -- there are some bad cops, that's one case that you've got right. >> there are. >> those numbers are dramatically lower than the incidents of black on black crime, and i believe every one of these kids, every one of these statistics we need to save their lives. and i think we have a deal with the bigger part of the problem here, and the entire problem you seem to only want to go after law enforcement that's my only question. >> no i want to get at the root cause

remember, in the case of trayvon martin we had a ground and pound witness.roborating the story. >> we know there would not have been a murder indictment without the -- >> true. i agree. >> the reason this is an argument for body cameras, privacy be damned. instead of relying on cell phone camera videos. you saw in the case of rialto, you had 60% use of force decline in the first year. 88% decline in citizen complaints. >> that is in the cop's best interest. >> it is. and this is as close as we'll come to an american version of one of the isis beheading videos. this is horrible, despicable. the cop was 33 years old. this guy 50 years old and out of shape the cop could have overtaken him. >> easy. >> the good news is that we didn't need a sleaze bag with a bull horn to get the cop to do the right thing they said all the right things in the end. >> the cops have been shot in aftermath of what happened in fergusson this tarnishes the vast majority of good cops that protect and serve. >> i think we need federal mandatory investigations for every police killing in

justice department said it would not file civil rights charges against george zimmerman in the trayvon martin case. in the michael brown case, federal authorities declined to prosecute officer darren wilson. would your bill do anything to make it easier for the justice department to file civil rights charges in such cases? >> well i think that by making this a federal crime, it changes the approach quite a bit. the bill wasn't aimed to do that specifically or exclusively. what we wanted to do was get a broad prohibition that makes it a criminal matter of where racial profiling occurs. it's a federal crime and that we think, will be very helpful in reduceing the number of incidents that occur. >> there is another problem that some say we have. for example, we have no idea how many suspects are actually killed by police because they're not required to keep those numbers. should lawmakers deal with that issue, too? >> we do in the bill. we have a data collection requirement and that will take care of that problem. you're right. it is a big concern if we don't know what the numbers are that we're

the default position of the justice department from florida with trayvon martin to ferguson missouri,s that racism is so undiminished that local institutions cannot be trusted. we are seeing something interesting how technology this thing, smart 15 is changing capabilities which change expectations, which changes rights. we have an enormous public of mitigations all over the country of the right of people to film public officials in the performance of their did yous and most especially of course police officers who have the lethal force of the state behind them. this is going to change american life would foundly and for the better. >> i must say chuck, i was truck by that part of hillary clinton's tweet, too familiar, which made it sound like this goes on all the time and that was the narrative in ferguson, hands up, don't shoot get shot in the back and as we know it didn't happen after multiple investigations. what do you think hillary clinton is saying, what happened in south carolina too fall. >> it is a fact that democrats have treated the incidents as an opportunity to remind a